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Just the UCI trying to stop SKY and Froome from tanning it again.

 

Not done them much good so far.

 

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They do have a 'special' edge...

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Nice easy stage, nothing happening, peloton chatting away, not paying attention then BOOM! broken wrist due to a fall in the feed zone.

 

Have to concentrate all the time, boys!

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All roads lead to Gorgie

Kittel again but he nearly celebrated too soon there. Shame the Pole couldn't hold on for another 30 seconds or so, a brave try though.

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Craig Gordons Gloves

Kittel on fire this Tour.  Can't help but wonder if it would have been different had Cav and Sagan still been in the race. 

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Kittel on fire this Tour.  Can't help but wonder if it would have been different had Cav and Sagan still been in the race. 

 

 

Because he has such a burst of speed he can hold off out of trouble until the last seconds. A very intelligent sprinter but Cav and Sagan would have been well in the mix if still competing. 

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Dusk_Till_Dawn

This is so dull. The Peleton seem to be escorting Froome into Paris. Waste of time.

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Dusk_Till_Dawn

This is so dull. The Peleton seem to be escorting Froome into Paris. Waste of time.

:lol:

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Brian Whittaker's Tache

Sitting in the shop watching this today. 

Shop's dead all day as its the holidays.

600m to go and my first customer of the day asking a daft question!!

 

Gutted!!

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SKY might have to attack off that 2nd climb and put a marker down!

Either that or another kamikaze Froome descent off the final climb.

 

Interesting race, now!

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Any chance of any other teams being 'friendly' towards Astana in a bid to keep Sky out? [Edit - as I think I heard a commentator say that Astana didn't have much strength in depth left in their team]

 

Disclaimer - enjoying the sheer spectacle of the event but not got a clue how team cycling works.

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Any chance of any other teams being 'friendly' towards Astana in a bid to keep Sky out? [Edit - as I think I heard a commentator say that Astana didn't have much strength in depth left in their team]

 

Disclaimer - enjoying the sheer spectacle of the event but not got a clue how team cycling works.

Team-mates either launch attacks as a unit to tire out other teams who then have to chase them. Or the team will counter-attack other team's attacks.

 

If the main man is feeling puggled, they sit him towards the back of the team line and do most of the work, allowing the head honcho of the team to benefit from the aerodynamic drag.

This is especially noticeable in the big mountain stages where you'll see team members at the front pushing hard then peeling off and disappearing backwards as they run out of energy. This keeps the team leader fresher.

 

Teams can also fire a man or two up in the break of the day to deny other teams points in the green and polka dot jersey competitions. Having a break-away group to chase also makes the peloton speed up throughout the day, tiring out other teams who are weaker than you are.

 

A team can also slow the peloton down by getting at the front and not trying a leg, forcing other teams to either waste energy attacking or simply not letting people past.

 

It's a chess game which becomes apparent the more road racing you watch.

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Any chance of any other teams being 'friendly' towards Astana in a bid to keep Sky out? [Edit - as I think I heard a commentator say that Astana didn't have much strength in depth left in their team]

 

Disclaimer - enjoying the sheer spectacle of the event but not got a clue how team cycling works.

Aru's plan might be as yesterday to use the Sky team and attack off it

 

But Sky can also vary things and while Froome has concern over his high climb form he has other skills including downhill and the time trial

 

A genuine competition is a good thing

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Astana have to ead the peloton today, that could be good for sky, it allows them to preserve energy, unless astana go off at a silly pace, its only a 60mile stage so the pace could be very high.

I can see a sky rider going off with a breakaway today and froome doing his kamikaze downhill attack today

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So, after adding a 20 second time penalty last night to George Bennet and Rigoberto Uran, for taking a water bottle inside the final 20 km, which is not allowed, they have decided to remove the penalty when it was pointed out to them that local favourite and GC contender Roman Bardet had done the same, can't be adding 20 seconds on to his time now can we!

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So, after adding a 20 second time penalty last night to George Bennet and Rigoberto Uran, for taking a water bottle inside the final 20 km, which is not allowed, they have decided to remove the penalty when it was pointed out to them that local favourite and GC contender Roman Bardet had done the same, can't be adding 20 seconds on to his time now can we!

Not on Bastille day anyway. I am not fully up on the rules of racing but why can't water be taken inside 20km anyway ? You would think at the point where the real racing is about to materialise then competitors would need hydration even more! 

Is it to stop accidents with cyclists slowing or deviating to retrieve bottles or something along those lines ?

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Not on Bastille day anyway. I am not fully up on the rules of racing but why can't water be taken inside 20km anyway ? You would think at the point where the real racing is about to materialise then competitors would need hydration even more! 

Is it to stop accidents with cyclists slowing or deviating to retrieve bottles or something along those lines ?

Mainly to stop team cars coming up or riders slowing to get bottles, both of which are dangerous in the final 20km when things are hotting up.

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Mainly to stop team cars coming up or riders slowing to get bottles, both of which are dangerous in the final 20km when things are hotting up.

Thanks. I thought it would be a safety thing with the domestiques dropping off the pace and unable to take over from the cars in the later stages. Another good day for France. Aru coming in on the same time as Froome so no real change at the front.

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French winner on Bastille Day!

 

Great stuff from the major players, attacking each other all down that last descent.

 

General Classification after today:

Aru

Froome 6"

Bardet 25"

Uran 35"

Landa 1'09"

 

Tomorrow is more or less one giant climb, lots of opportunity for attacks.

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Strange day on the road:

 

Nothing happened for 150km then Aru lost 30 seconds at the death simply because SKY have good team discipline and Aru's team are a shambles.

 

 

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Maybe Sky could offer Aru to join the team. Seems fair.

 

Tough for him. Going to be hard now.

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Anything could happen over tomorrow's stage!

Have the feeling that SKY are getting a grip on this tour and that no other team can live with them once they start putting the hurt on.

 

Only just over halfway, mind!

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Arsehole fans out in force today I see. Booing Froome again. 

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Toxteth O'Grady

Serious stage today. Lots of drama going on and a classic Tony Martin breakaway.

If Froome gets out of today without damage then he has done really well

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Excellent race management by SKY.

Didn't panic, just thought it all out logically and got their man back to the main group of GC contenders.

 

Plenty of absolute roasters at the sides of the road today. Booing is pathetic behaviour.

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A couple more close stages with Chris Froome digging it out and he could leave France with his reputation higher.

 

We perhaps don't give the credit with all the support and resources from Sky and he isn't the most magnetic personality.

 

But he's been fighting hard in the most competitive Tour de France in a long time. They are saying its the closest ever in terms of time gaps.

 

I wonder if Dan Martin could be the big threat now with the possibility of challenging in the last (competitive for GC) day time trial if he can get a bit closer in last 4 days of climbing.

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Agree with Cade - missed everything over the weekend and now we've got a ******* rest day. Not chuffed :mad:

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zoltan socrates

Time off will give them the opportunity to catch up on tow path etiquette seeing as that is gripe against cyclist de jour

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Craig Gordons Gloves

I too hate the rest days.  Pain in the hoop. 

 

Interesting week ahead though, I have a feeling that Bardet will come through in the mountain stages and open up a lead.  After the farce the other day with Aru i don't see Astana being good enough to push him on. 

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This race will be won and lost on wednesday and thursday, the last two big mountain stages.

 

Tuesday:
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Wednesday:

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Thursday:

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Friday:

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Saturday: TIME TRIAL

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Sunday: PARIS

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zoltan socrates

Col du galibier followed by the col d'izoard is quality action for two days, cant wait

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Col du galibier followed by the col d'izoard is quality action for two days, cant wait

I hope all the contenders get a good clean climb and the eejits by the roadside don't try and slow Froome down to help their favourites.

 

I am not his biggest fan but the stick and intimidation he gets is outrages on many of the climbs.

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I think Uran could be the big threat though I'd like to see Aru win it. Feel a bit sorry for Landa. Think he could probably have been a contender, a bit like Froome/Wiggins

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I think Uran could be the big threat though I'd like to see Aru win it. Feel a bit sorry for Landa. Think he could probably have been a contender, a bit like Froome/Wiggins

Landa wanted to sit out the Tour De France with a view to being SKY's top man in the Vuelta later on.

 

Then Froome changed his mind and wanted to try the France/Spain double so Landa was told he had to ride the TDF.

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I appreciate it might be poor form, but couldn't someone like Aru not just have tagged along with the Sky lads the other day (which I missed).

Also, do they get much advantage in drag-reduction whilst climbing or going uphill (not a categorised climb)? I'd have thought it would have made a bigger difference the higher the pace.. ???

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Women's race is two stages this year. TWO

 

:vrface:

 

That's bloody shocking. At least it's got tv coverage this time, normally it just gets ignored completely.

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Craig Gordons Gloves

Looks like Froome has it won again, barring a crash or a horrific time trial. 

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Greedy_Jambo

Imagine what a walk in the park it would of been if he still had Thomas.

Sky just have too much money. It's like Madrid in the Scottish Premiership.

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siegementality

Imagine what a walk in the park it would of been if he still had Thomas.

Sky just have too much money. It's like Madrid in the Scottish Premiership.

It's down to a bit more than just money.

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