Mikey1874 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Starts today Live on ITV 4 from 2pm 1-23 July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Wide open this year. Froome's been injured most of pre-season and hasn't exactly been setting the world alight during the early events of the calendar. Quintana may crack as usual. Porte's a possibility. Then there's all the other usual suspects and outsiders. Should be an enthralling three weeks of bike racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Nasty conditions, lots of crashes, at least one abandon on the first day. 4 of the top ten fastest riders were from SKY and Geraint Thomas took the Yellow Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statts1976uk Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Probably a good decision from Froome to not tak excessive risks out there, the roads looked treacherous with all that rain. Really glad to see Thomas win the stage, would love to see him get a crack at the GC instead of the domestique role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Shame for Valverde as he is always a good rider to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 What happened to Val Verde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statts1976uk Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Big crash coming out of a corner in the time trial. He hit the barrier pretty hard. He might have a broken kneecap amongst other injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 What happened to Val Verde Wiped out on a corner and hit barriers. Broken kneecap reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 What happened to Val Verde Lost it on a corner and slid into the crowd barrier. Lay on the ground for some time. Looked a sore one as he hit the barrier at some pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 So Geraint Thomas won the stage and takes yellow jersey No tv footage as they never covered him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Shame for Val Verde, was in the best form of his life. However let's discuss the BMC skin suits, Richjie Porte looks like he's wearing a swimsuit to small for him that's riding up his erse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Always like Geraint Thomas - deserves his success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Always like Geraint Thomas - deserves his success Must be on a good contract with Sky otherwise he would be a top rider and GC contender with a lesser team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 It looking great for Cavendish. Big sprint crash for him and looking like a possible collar bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 And the replays look like it was Sagan that fired him into the barriers with his elbow. Never fails to amaze me how many sprinters (including Cav) do crazy things like that at 60+kph. I like Sagan but it will be interesting if he is found guilty if they throw him off the race as he's box office gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 And the replays look like it was Sagan that fired him into the barriers with his elbow. Never fails to amaze me how many sprinters (including Cav) do crazy things like that at 60+kph. I like Sagan but it will be interesting if he is found guilty if they throw him off the race as he's box office gold. Looked more damning for Sagan from the helicopter shot, probably just be seen as a racing incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Looked worse from the overhead camera. From the front it seems more that his elbow came out after they had made contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Looked worse from the overhead camera. From the front it seems more that his elbow came out after they had made contact. Just what I was about to post. I'm sure the commissars will take their time and look at every view. To be fair I don't think there is a sprinter out there that hasn't done something stupid at some point. And certainly Bouhani has major form for being an arse. Cavendish knew it was a risky manouvre coming up the inside on the barriers but that is one of the reasons he has been so good over the years he goes for the impossible and pulls it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 Looked more damning for Sagan from the helicopter shot, probably just be seen as a racing incident Yeah That Cavendish is going for a tight inside angle that could have forced Sagan off course will be taken into account. But first viwing it doesn't look good by Sagan. Might just have been a reflex his elbow rising. That's what some peoole are saying. Never cycled at that speed so don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sagan DQ'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Harsh, but what I know about professional cycling isn't worth knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sensational At the time initially thinking it was Cavendish responsible for someone else falling I thought it was a clear dangerous move. It doesn't look good. I am so surprised at Sagan who just had to hold his line. Not sure if appeal is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sagan DQ'd http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40498656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The overhead view certainly does Sagan no favours, but looking at it from the front it looks as though the elbow comes out after Cav is on his way down, solely to try to keep upright. Hopefully he can appeal and get's re-instated, as he's one of the best cyclists to watch, on all terrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sagan also caused the crash that caused G to crash, piled through the middle lof 2 FDJ and down they went. Crazy scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The overhead view certainly does Sagan no favours, but looking at it from the front it looks as though the elbow comes out after Cav is on his way down, solely to try to keep upright. Hopefully he can appeal and get's re-instated, as he's one of the best cyclists to watch, on all terrain One of the Director sportifs had said it's deserved, compared it to event previously; renshaw getting DQ'd for head butting in a sprint a few years back. Very dangerous actions at that speed by Sagan today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Cavendish out of the race now, broken shoulder confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sagan DQ'd Rightly to. Regardless of all that was going on that elbow was deliberate, albeit I am sure he didn't know who he was elbowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Rightly to. Regardless of all that was going on that elbow was deliberate, albeit I am sure he didn't know who he was elbowing. I know absolutely nothing about cycling but enjoy the Tour but it looked like he had a couple of digs at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I believe it was right to DQ Sagan as it was highly dangerous to use an elbow so close to the barrier. It would have been OK in a more central position and probably wouldn't have caused anything more than angry looks at the end. Cav maybe didn't choose the right line though and in hindsight he could maybe have swept round to the riders left as they drifted right. Drifting loses time and a straight charge to the line would maybe have paid dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Sagan also guilty imo of dangerous cycling in the earlier crash which took down group with yellow jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Cavendish out of the race now, broken shoulder confirmed. Wow - 2 potential stage winners gone just like that. Opens the door for some of those previously less likely now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 There was talk of an appeal. But its a final decision with no appeal. Sagan has left and is on his way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Whittaker's Tache Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yesterday was racing. Cav wasnt entirely blameless. The best clip I saw showed Cav sticking the head in (he has previous for this) Unfortunately he came off second best yesterday against a burlier opponent.The elbow was after the eventhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMSRbpOLIAk&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yesterday was racing. Cav wasnt entirely blameless. The best clip I saw showed Cav sticking the head in (he has previous for this) Unfortunately he came off second best yesterday against a burlier opponent. The elbow was after the event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMSRbpOLIAk&feature=youtu.be Sagan changed his line. Is something he does. He is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Happens in sprints. It's a shame but I think DQ is a bit harsh. He's a bit mad, Sagan but Cav is no angel and neither of them are Abdoujaparov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Happens in sprints. It's a shame but I think DQ is a bit harsh. He's a bit mad, Sagan but Cav is no angel and neither of them are Abdoujaparov. Loved Abdou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 So a good stage today helping everyone move on. Ominously for the others Chris Froome takes the yellow jersey. But there is competition so could be really interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Aru was strong but who knows what the Giro has taken out of him in terms of staying power as the race goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Interesting and refreshing news of a new member of the ITV4 team. It's long been rumoured but is now confirmed. She has been contributing excellent well written pieces on cycling for a few years now. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/a-statement-from-cyclingnews-contributor-philippa-york/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozyuzi Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Hats off to her.. I used to watch a lot of the Tour and enjoyed watching Millars mad long lone attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Will add even more expert analysis to what is a very good offering from ITV 4. 5 hours live coverage is a challenge ITV are meeting well. Lots of good interviews. I've watched / listened to a couple of full days and its been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 And today's show is on now ITV 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Always preferred Eurosport for TDF coverage. ITV4 commentators are a bunch of boring sods. Chris Boardman in particular spends hours banging on about nonsense things like what kind of paint is on the bikes, what shape water bottles should be and other tedious nerdy boring pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Always preferred Eurosport for TDF coverage. ITV4 commentators are a bunch of boring sods. Chris Boardman in particular spends hours banging on about nonsense things like what kind of paint is on the bikes, what shape water bottles should be and other tedious nerdy boring pish. Is there way to make a large group of folk cycling together for 5 and a half hours exciting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Is there way to make a large group of folk cycling together for 5 and a half hours exciting? Random landmines at intervals through the stage. Or trained attack animals of some kind, like furious raccoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Always preferred Eurosport for TDF coverage. ITV4 commentators are a bunch of boring sods. Chris Boardman in particular spends hours banging on about nonsense things like what kind of paint is on the bikes, what shape water bottles should be and other tedious nerdy boring pish. I quite like the historical things they point out along the route but on days when I can watch a whole stage I sometimes turn the sound off and just watch the scenery pass by. It is a bit like test cricket in days gone by when they talked about cakes and things. That should have been a dead heat today is all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 NBCSN commentary is fantastic, Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwin. Reminds me of the days when it was on channel 4. Watching last night and there are 2 kids waving a Dutch flag in the background. Liggett comments "and there we have 2 kids flying the french flag" Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 NBCSN commentary is fantastic, Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwin. Reminds me of the days when it was on channel 4. Watching last night and there are 2 kids waving a Dutch flag in the background. Liggett comments "and there we have 2 kids flying the french flag" Love it. Towards the end of their stint on ITV4 it sounded increasingly like Paul Sherwen was Phil Liggett's carer, as Sherwen was constantly having to correct Liggett s mistakes. Also Liggett was still defending Lance Armstrong right up to the Oprah confession. Couldn't really take him seriously after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Jeezo - a winning margin of 0.0003 seconds over a ride of 5h 03 min 16 sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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