Romanov Stole My Pension Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Yeah. Top goalscorer last season, POTY and also our best attacking threat last week at Motherwell. All this with a distinct lack of effort. This, needlessly and very sadly, has grown arms and legs with some ridiculous comments made. I hope Jamie remains a Hearts player and is POTY once again. Best attacking threat against Motherwell? He had one decent shot which admittedly drew a good save. I share your hope, but I just cannot see it happening. Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwayssunnyingorgie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Has he signed for them yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Why in particular Levein Graygo? FFS, you're not going to let this go so I'll try to explain why. This forum is chock full of arseholes, arseholes with an agenda against Craig Levein and will use whatever they can to have a go at him. (all in my opinion of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 our best attacking threat last week at Motherwell. Other than Lafferty who scored? You watched a different game to me then, clearly. His conscience was pricked after the second goal, until then he did **** all and even after that, little more. I hope he goes, I don't want to see him in a Hearts jersey again, however he must leave on our terms, not his and certainly not theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Has he signed for them yet? Not going to happen. Now for CL to decide whether to outcast him, here's hoping he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If he goes now we won't get a chance to use the money to strengthen the squad while at the same time strengthening a rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@VladMagic Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'm not even going to pretend that I know the answer to that, or indeed what the question means. Well its a simple reversal of your outlandish point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If he signs for them tonight the seethe on here at the club and Levein in particular will be off the scaleMeh, if he signs for them tonight it will mean that we got the deal we wanted. Hearts are in charge of this deal. It won't happen unless we want it to. Sent from my FP2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 FFS, you're not going to let this go so I'll try to explain why. This forum is chock full of arseholes, arseholes with an agenda against Craig Levein and will use whatever they can to have a go at him. (all in my opinion of course) No need for that mate. I'm afraid I'll have to report the post, unless you apologise that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo99 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'm not even going to pretend that I know the answer to that, or indeed what the question means. Seems a fairly simple question to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick.of.romanov Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Jamie walkers a nobody punt him on loan to Stirling Albion the wee prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwayssunnyingorgie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Not going to happen. Now for CL to decide whether to outcast him, here's hoping he does. Why not? He's not going to bother his arse and sign a pre contract in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@VladMagic Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 FFS, you're not going to let this go so I'll try to explain why. This forum is chock full of arseholes, arseholes with an agenda against Craig Levein and will use whatever they can to have a go at him. (all in my opinion of course) All good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowmans_Boot Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I share your hope, but I just cannot see it happening. Can you? Yes, I can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Kind of wish they would stump up. Stuck with petulance and a nailed on 1st January pre contract. Disappointed he hasn't ****ed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Whilst not sticking up for JW in anyway.... I think it's pretty clear he's looking to maximise his earning potential whilst not wanting to uproot his young family to England or abroad. Some may see it as lack of ambition but I see it as the guy doesn't want to leave his home. I'm not impressed by the way he's engineered this but I can sympathise with his reasoning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's a professional footballer. Moving around and uprooting his family is part of the sacrifice that these guys have to make to earn the huge salaries they demand. It's a short career he will have the rest of his life to enjoy home comforts. The old saying about wanting your cake and eating it comes to mind here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If he goes now we won't get a chance to use the money to strengthen the squad while at the same time strengthening a rival. Yep, although Levein has a track record of picking up free agents after the window closes so if we did get money it could be used on wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Yep, although Levein has a track record of picking up free agents after the window closes so if we did get money it could be used on wages. True. But the dream of signing a proven player such as Cadden or Moult will be over. Unrealistic perhaps, but badly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Meh, if he signs for them tonight it will mean that we got the deal we wanted. Hearts are in charge of this deal. It won't happen unless we want it to. Sent from my FP2 using Tapatalk Like it or not we will not get the deal we wanted.....Rangers will not get the deal they wanted either but please don't delude yourself by thinking we will somehow be ahead on any deal agreed. It's too late to do any real business so what comes in may not be able to be spent unless there is someone waiting for a call from us to do an even later deal. There is not going to be any real winner in a deal that is agreed this late but the problem is both sides are becoming so entrenched that the clubs are feeling under pressure to show they are the winner in any deal instead of just getting a deal done. Fan power at it's worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 No need for that mate. I'm afraid I'll have to report the post, unless you apologise that is! Not like you to get upset on someone else's behalf chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Why not? He's not going to bother his arse and sign a pre contract in January. Like I said, it'll only happen on our terms which is unlikely. So he'll stay but then CL has a decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Why not? He's not going to bother his arse and sign a pre contract in January. Are sevco or anyone else gonna want a player that's not kicked a ball for 12 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 We should have said to Sevco - pay up by 1200 lunch time or no bid accepted. Hope we can sign the French winger (from Italian league) but even if we dont - time to drop Jamie from squad. I supported him at Motherwell - but I am finished with him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Are sevco or anyone else gonna want a player that's not kicked a ball for 12 months? It's been 8 months already. Might be next July before anyone gets him.....that's 19 months!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Like it or not we will not get the deal we wanted.....Rangers will not get the deal they wanted either but please don't delude yourself by thinking we will somehow be ahead on any deal agreed. It's too late to do any real business so what comes in may not be able to be spent unless there is someone waiting for a call from us to do an even later deal. There is not going to be any real winner in a deal that is agreed this late but the problem is both sides are becoming so entrenched that the clubs are feeling under pressure to show they are the winner in any deal instead of just getting a deal done. Fan power at it's worst If we soften, and get 800k (for instance, I'm not suggesting that this will happen), then we have 800k. Even if the window SLAMS SHUT before we can spend it, we can replace walker with a free agent anytime. Let's face it, he's barely played this season anyway, despite being on the pitch. Sent from my FP2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Very few are questioning his ambition or his reasons. It's the way he's gone about it and the effort he's made in games that's hacking folk off. Absolutely we've looked after him so the least he can do ensure we get decent money for him , not knowing him he sounds like a spoilt brat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Every time I come on this thread I get a good laugh at this notion that Celtic are going to want to sign any players from Hearts in the foreseeable future. Did they not try and poach Marc Leonard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The Barry the crab said on the radio, that personal terms would have already been agreed, Is that not tapping up? even if it was done by an agent???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Not like you to get upset on someone else's behalf chief. I won't sleep after reading your foul mouthed tirade. I'm disgusted and dissapointed tbh.......but totally agree with you Leveins a hard cookie. Won't bow down to the press or a tribute acts derogatory offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Enough. We are in danger of becoming fixated on this at the expense of the bigger picture. The best thing we can do is let it play out in the background and get behind matters which are relevant going forward which Walker no matter the outcome is certainly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 True. But the dream of signing a proven player such as Cadden or Moult will be over. Unrealistic perhaps, but badly needed. I don't think we're realistically going to be paying half a million or more, which is what Well are holding out for, for any player anytime soon even if we got money for Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Fan power at it's worst How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 This ***** shoulders a hell of a lot of the responsibility too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Not like you to get upset on someone else's behalf chief. I'm just shocked with your language tonight mate. You're normally a calm guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Like it or not we will not get the deal we wanted.....Rangers will not get the deal they wanted either but please don't delude yourself by thinking we will somehow be ahead on any deal agreed. It's too late to do any real business so what comes in may not be able to be spent unless there is someone waiting for a call from us to do an even later deal. There is not going to be any real winner in a deal that is agreed this late but the problem is both sides are becoming so entrenched that the clubs are feeling under pressure to show they are the winner in any deal instead of just getting a deal done. Fan power at it's worst If we get Walker for another season and Rangers don't, that's a fine deal for us, with the added bonus that we're sending out a message that our players are not available for free no matter how much tapping up and media chicanery Rangers get up to to unsettle our players. Their new sporting director not covering himself in glory over this. Also, it would be an extremely risky move from Walker to assume that Rangers will be in for him later. I don't think their manager will be there long for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 We should have said to Sevco - pay up by 1200 lunch time or no bid accepted. Hope we can sign the French winger (from Italian league) but even if we dont - time to drop Jamie from squad. I supported him at Motherwell - but I am finished with him now. Signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Like it or not we will not get the deal we wanted.....Rangers will not get the deal they wanted either but please don't delude yourself by thinking we will somehow be ahead on any deal agreed. It's too late to do any real business so what comes in may not be able to be spent unless there is someone waiting for a call from us to do an even later deal. There is not going to be any real winner in a deal that is agreed this late but the problem is both sides are becoming so entrenched that the clubs are feeling under pressure to show they are the winner in any deal instead of just getting a deal done. Fan power at it's worst Partly agree - no winner. But you cant blame "fan power". Jamie was worth ?1 M but no longer. Hearts had to hold out for a decent deal.. Jamie - probably thick enough to still believe it will end well for him. Sevco - they would have like Jamie but don't have the cash - they will hope to get him next summer but will more likely dump Jamie for another target. The real loser? - likely to be Jamie Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 His erchie is oot the windae anyway. Weve signed the serb/french winger so JW just just sook it. His agent? Sevco & their paltry bids? Deadwood? His attitude in training & on the pitch? Went from fans favourite to persona non grata. FFS. What an episode & waste of time/talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazhearts Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If he doesn't sign for them tonight he should be treated like every other first team player...... Pick the best. Performing 11 players. No sending players to train with U20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 This ***** shoulders a hell of a lot of the responsibility too though. Aye Houldsworth (sic) has been the root cause of all of this. Rangers supporter I'm led to believe. Thing is if he was even close to being a half decent agent he'd have been looking for other options for his client but it seems he only wants Walker to go to SevCo. The slightly worrying thing is he is also agent to some other players but I don't know how many or who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If he doesn't sign for them tonight he should be treated like every other first team player...... Pick the best. Performing 11 players. No sending players to train with U20's. Agreed. The idea that Walker can get away with deliberately underperforming with people like Lafferty and Berra around the place, plus Levein himself, seems absurd. Walker should look on this as a chance to impress better clubs than Rangers who clearly didn't value him as much as he thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfWestLothian Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sounds like he's away to Rangers then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sounds like he's away to Rangers then. Why do you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 He can train with his guffy ****ing sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Aye Houldsworth (sic) has been the root cause of all of this. Rangers supporter I'm led to believe. Thing is if he was even close to being a half decent agent he'd have been looking for other options for his client but it seems he only wants Walker to go to SevCo. The slightly worrying thing is he is also agent to some other players but I don't know how many or who they are. Can picture Levein telling him not to bother setting foot in Tynie again. Or else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos4life Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Iv just been told he's away too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sounds like he's away to Rangers then.Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Jamie was a decent guy who has had his head turned by an agent filling his head full of nonsense, probably spouting salary figures and telling him no worries, Hearts will cave in. Not really turned out like that though, and good for the club for standing up. He may still go but more on our terms. If not the only real loser is JW,he has burned his bridges here,and who knows where Sevco will be financially in a years time or if they will still be looking at him. JW needs to take a long hard look at his advisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sounds like he's away to Rangers then. Let's see if it's just cash or if we're getting some Ranger's reject sack of meat to make the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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