Maroon Sailor Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 What has that to do with being unable to differentiate between the eurozone, the EU etc? Who gives a toss about it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I see that lots of people still don't understand that the EU, the Eurozone and the European Convention on Human Rights are all separate entities. Well two are, one is a subgroup of one of the two. The Eurozone is a grouping within th EU. The ECHR is separate of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think there is a focus on them as people view it as unfair. I suppose there is always going to be an element of jealously that some people are able to effectively opt out of performing their societal duties to no real detriment. All parties, but especially Labour and SNP bang on about wanting to live in a fair society. People see it as unfair that some don't have to work. There's a lot of unfairness out there though, like the example I gave where employers pay wages that people can't live on, leaving the tax payer to take up the slack with tax credits and what have you. The employer claims he can't make a profit without doing this so in effect you're paying his bloody profit! How's that fair? Why isn't this the example people keep turning to? Anyway, I know what you're saying, but it boils my piss that the situation is what it is - make it worthwhile for people to work and watch them get motivated! Society's ****ed, and it's not the fault of those at the bottom of the ladder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Pick the bones out of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Conservative and Unionist Party General Election 2017 Manifesto, at around lunchtime today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyjambo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Conservative and Unionist Party General Election 2017 Manifesto, at around lunchtime today Or maybe a JKB moderator turning paper copies of your posts into something useful for soaking up her hamsters piss and s***e? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Conservative and Unionist Party General Election 2017 Manifesto, at around lunchtime today Thought it was Sturgons plan for Indyref2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Pick the bones out of this: That's some intertwining, where does the Brexiteers want to be after? Or maybe a JKB moderator turning paper copies of your posts into something useful for soaking up her hamsters piss and s***e?Nothing worse than an internet forum bum licker. Horrendous patter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Boris Johnson's Radio 4 interview was so bad that he made Diane Abbot look like a fecking savant! The man has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/benefit-cap-judicial-review-welfare-payments-government-loses-lawsuit-court-case-judge-misery-a7802286.html Sums the Tories up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Great, more SNP MP's being emptied. Bring it on. If Tories keep on closing and selling off public services like Fire stations and some parts of the NHS down south there will be even more Tories emptied. You could not make this up, i mean these rats are selling off and closing down public service related services and then selling them off to their rich mates on the snide . Corporate state controlled vandalism. Fire station shut by Boris Johnson to be turned into luxury flats by company run by Tory donor One of 10 fire stations shut by Boris Johnson while he was Mayor of London is to be converted into luxury flats ? by a company whose directors include a Tory donor. Belsize fire station, which was closed in 2014 after 100 years of service to the local community, will be turned into 16 apartments, [?... POLITICALSCRAPBOOK.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/22/conservative-party-call-centre-may-have-broken-election-law Tories operating secret call centres canvassing for Tory MPs in the guise of doing market research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I see the cut and paste crew are out in force again tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not everyone knows that Theresa May's communications chief, Laura Kuenssberg also does jobs for the BBC. So the impartial BBC then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 So May has previously came out and stated that there is no magic money tree for the NHS, welfare education and social housing but can find ?1.5 billion to bribe the DUP into a coalition just to cling on and remain in power.?? So the future of the UK is now in the hands of a tiny group of neanderthals who have successfully extorted a small fortune from a government so desperate to cling to power that they are prepared to jeopardise peace in NI as a price worth paying. Does anyone still believe parliamentary 'democracy' is a viable mechanism for changing society for the better? Its a fecking public outrage that Theresa May finds one billion pounds so she can be propped up in government by a group of people who want to turn the clock back to 1950 and hang the likes of Stefan Kiszko, ban abortions, throw gays in prison and ban gay rights. Strong and stable?? She also sees putting the Friday agreement in seriously jeopardy as nothing more than a means to an end, that means and end being saving her parties skin. Is this the kind of person and party that we want running this country and dragging it back to the 1800s?? Strong and stable?? , more like wrong and feeble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well thats that then the end of Mr nice guy or the loony lefftie to some. 6 links that totally destroy any credibility Corbyn has left -- Sott.net How the mighty have fallen. Just a few weeks ago, Stalinist firebrand, Jeremy Corbyn, was the Golden Boy of the British Left. But now, Corbyn is coming under? SOTT.NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 This is so morally wrong, unjust, unfair and down right taking the utter piss out of the tax payer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32309311 ?1.5 bn would build 24,900 new social homes for the whole of the UK rather JUST prop up May and her crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Seems fair, i mean does that mean if Scotland and Wales came a knocking on Mays door for money that magic money tree would then be skint???? ?400 million motorway Belfast ?150 million on broadband ?200 million for health fund ?100 million for education ?100 million for Ireland to wipe debts ?50 million for mental health ?500 million shared housing and education Quite a windfall to Ireland and extra 10 votes for the cons. In two years time Arlene foster can come back to Downing Street to ask for even more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Utter chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Misappropriation of public money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 So May has previously came out and stated that there is no magic money tree for the NHS, welfare education and social housing but can find ?1.5 billion to bribe the DUP into a coalition just to cling on and remain in power.?? So the future of the UK is now in the hands of a tiny group of neanderthals who have successfully extorted a small fortune from a government so desperate to cling to power that they are prepared to jeopardise peace in NI as a price worth paying. Does anyone still believe parliamentary 'democracy' is a viable mechanism for changing society for the better? Its a fecking public outrage that Theresa May finds one billion pounds so she can be propped up in government by a group of people who want to turn the clock back to 1950 and hang the likes of Stefan Kiszko, ban abortions, throw gays in prison and ban gay rights. Strong and stable?? She also sees putting the Friday agreement in seriously jeopardy as nothing more than a means to an end, that means and end being saving her parties skin. Is this the kind of person and party that we want running this country and dragging it back to the 1800s?? Strong and stable?? , more like wrong and feeble. Labour would have done the same if the roles were reversed. It's called politics. Always has been and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Could the SNP not have agreed to work with the minority Tory Government, for the benefit of all in the UK, and in the process pocket an extra ?1.5 billion, or more, for the benefit of Scotland alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Labour would have done the same if the roles were reversed. It's called politics. Always has been and always will be. It should be illegal. It is basically bribery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 A fully federalized UK would have prevented all this hoo-hah. Oh well, 300 years too late. :'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Could the SNP not have agreed to work with the minority Tory Government, for the benefit of all in the UK, and in the process pocket an extra ?1.5 billion, or more, for the benefit of Scotland alone? Would be political suicide in their part. Tories wouldnt work with SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Could the SNP not have agreed to work with the minority Tory Government, for the benefit of all in the UK, and in the process pocket an extra ?1.5 billion, or more, for the benefit of Scotland alone? Yes. This goes to show why closing off avenues of discussion in politics is bloody daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It should be illegal. It is basically bribery. It's not though. The Greens backed an SNP budget in return for halving a cut to local government budgets. Is that a bribe or negotiated support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Would be political suicide in their part. Tories wouldnt work with SNP. I think the SNP would be daft not to do it. They claim they exist to 'stand up for Scotland'. So left/right should go out the window. Imagine they demanded HS2 to Edinburgh, extra money for schools and a seat at the Brexit table. If it's all for Scotland they are daft not to look to offer support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well done by the DUPpers. Now they have to try and get the Assembly back to spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 'Some of the full outrage we have heard, is hypocrisy of the highest order' http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821504/DUP-brexit-theresa-may-EU-European-Union-Brussels-Europe-integration-arlene-foster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 London estate agents insist market is 'booming' after woman pays ?1bn for house on Downing Street London estate agents are today claiming the London property market is extremely buoyant after a 60-year-old woman paid ?1bn for a terraced property with an? NEWSTHUMP.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Labour would have done the same if the roles were reversed. It's called politics. Always has been and always will be. Bullshite. You confuse Blairetes with Corbyn. You surmise that is all. Post evidence that Corbyn would have done the same as Count May, oh thats right there is none. Far right neo cons trying to justify in making a deal with terrorists and anti gay thinking people by saying its all just politics. She has made a deal with a pro bigoted, terrorists linked , homophobic rancid bunch of loonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 'Some of the full outrage we have heard, is hypocrisy of the highest order' http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821504/DUP-brexit-theresa-may-EU-European-Union-Brussels-Europe-integration-arlene-foster Ha ha, Hypocrisy from a tory ridden far right rag.. oh the irony.. lol; London estate agents insist market is 'booming' after woman pays ?1bn for house on Downing Street London estate agents are today claiming the London property market is extremely buoyant after a 60-year-old woman paid ?1bn for a terraced property with an? NEWSTHUMP.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well done by the DUPpers. Now they have to try and get the Assembly back to spend it. Not in my name, they can go feck themselves with their anti gay , christian beliefs that the world was created in 13,000 fecking year bullshoite. Still wating on them to declare that all links to the UDA are severed. Aye well done on probably fecking up the Good Friday agreement and all the peace it has achieved in those years. Fecking insidious bunch of selfserving cowardly wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well at least I know what the "NI contributions" bit of my pay slip means now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well at least I know what the "NI contributions" bit of my pay slip means now Bless. Pretending that you have a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Fecking sleazy corporate welfare scroungers. Lazy scroungers, sponging off the tax payer and all those hard working families on modest and low incomes.. They are not even shy about it, its like they want to goad it over us, fecking sociopaths. Aye well done ya bunch of utter wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Few thoughts on this deal: 1. It's not a failure or breach of Barnet. Barnet is based on "core" spending. Core means services provided by Whitehall. So the extra money to NI does not incur the consequentials. Therefore all this "Barnet Betrayal" stuff is a false grievance. 2. The SNP are a party of nation before political policy. If they wanted more cash for Scotland and say a seat at the Brexit table why not back a supply deal with May? That would be in the Scottish interest more than sitting on the sideline. 3. The 13 Scots Tories will need to make a quick impact here. A few maiden speeches saying "if NI gets more pounds Scotland should too" makes political sense. Added to that it's a hung parliament and 12 backbench votes which have to be earned by the government are invaluable now. Afterall, the SNP will cite the reasons they do to not get a deal themselves in point 2 to vote against their budget here. 4. This shows how we need to amend the electoral system to PR. The system has produced a majority once in 3 elections. People are increasingly divided. A more consensual system is being shown to work here. 5. The DUP now need to go back to Stormont and get their own house in order with SF. They've got ?1bn in the bank but need a government if they're to spend any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 The seethe of the lefty mouthbreathers on the Grauniad website is delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Few thoughts on this deal: 1. It's not a failure or breach of Barnet. Barnet is based on "core" spending. Core means services provided by Whitehall. So the extra money to NI does not incur the consequentials. Therefore all this "Barnet Betrayal" stuff is a false grievance. 2. The SNP are a party of nation before political policy. If they wanted more cash for Scotland and say a seat at the Brexit table why not back a supply deal with May? That would be in the Scottish interest more than sitting on the sideline. 3. The 13 Scots Tories will need to make a quick impact here. A few maiden speeches saying "if NI gets more pounds Scotland should too" makes political sense. Added to that it's a hung parliament and 12 backbench votes which have to be earned by the government are invaluable now. Afterall, the SNP will cite the reasons they do to not get a deal themselves in point 2 to vote against their budget here. 4. This shows how we need to amend the electoral system to PR. The system has produced a majority once in 3 elections. People are increasingly divided. A more consensual system is being shown to work here. 5. The DUP now need to go back to Stormont and get their own house in order with SF. They've got ?1bn in the bank but need a government if they're to spend any of it. The last point is the most pertinent. There will be even more pressure on the Shinners now especially when the failure of their abstention policy is never more apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 The seethe of the lefty mouthbreathers on the Grauniad website is delightful. Not really. This DUP deal is very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 The seethe of the lefty mouthbreathers on the Grauniad website is delightful. you are a very odd person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Tories and DUP voted to maintain the cap on the emergency service workers pay today, forcing it through parliament. ?1billion for the DUP and ?82million for The Queen this week but not one extra penny for the lads and lasses saving lives every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Tories and DUP voted to maintain the cap on the emergency service workers pay today, forcing it through parliament. ?1billion for the DUP and ?82million for The Queen this week but not one extra penny for the lads and lasses saving lives every day. SNP vote against pay cap in Westminster. SNP vote for pay cap in Holyrood. All those lads and lasses getting not one extra penny for saving lives in Scotland every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 SNP vote against pay cap in Westminster. SNP vote for pay cap in Holyrood. All those lads and lasses getting not one extra penny for saving lives in Scotland every day. **** the SNP, this was the first disgrace of many by the Tories and the DUP. Wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 **** the SNP, this was the first disgrace of many by the Tories and the DUP. Wankers. So either way you're screwed? True Blue Tories down south and Tartan ones up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 So either way you're screwed? True Blue Tories down south and Tartan ones up here. Pretty much but this vote only got through by 14 votes. That tells you exactly who voted for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Brutal cold bloodied reptiles. DUP voted with them , ironic as they are handed ?1.5 billion for NI, there public services will be happy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well at least I know what the "NI contributions" bit of my pay slip means now Yip . Pay freezes and austerity continue... whilst the DUP walk away with ?1.5 BILLION of YOUR money... Tories and DUP team up to vote down Labour bid to end emergency services cuts Conservatives MPs have voted down a bid by Labour to reverse cuts to emergency services and end the long-running freeze on public sector pay. Jeremy Corbyn?s? INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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