maroonlegions Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Heard the other day, that the material which was released to the media was supposed to have been destroyed, don't know if a court order was issued or not to do so, however either way, the very fact this retired policeman had the material is I think a criminal office and then to release it to the media is only asking for trouble. The two retired Policemen are now under investigation seemingly, presumably of how they had kept material which had been ordered to be destroyed. They could end up going to jail for this. You heard the other day,??. from whom did you hear?? So the evidance was ordered to be destroyed , who gave the ordere and why?? Lots of hersay here, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: You heard the other day,??. from whom did you hear?? So the evidance was ordered to be destroyed , who gave the ordere and why?? Lots of hersay here, https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/01/damian-green-porn-work-police-mp https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/damian-green-pornography-police-officers-cressida-dick-prosecution-secretary-state-met-commissioner-a8090326.html%3famp hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: You heard the other day,??. from whom did you hear?? So the evidance was ordered to be destroyed , who gave the ordere and why?? Lots of hersay here, I think it may have been Green's lawyer when he was interviewed on Sky News, but I won't swear to that, as I didn't catch the guy's name, however he did quote sections of this law and that law, so i took it that he knew something about the law. The tv was on in the background so I wasn't listening to closely until the guy being interviewed mentioned that he'd had assurances from the Police that the material was supposed to have been destroyed. Now I don't know who gave the order and why, however I did hear whoever it was say, that, as it was not a criminal offence to have the porn on the computer and that it was not part of the Police investigation it was to be deleted from the Police files as it was not relevant to the Police investigation when they found it. We now know that didn't happen, which opens up serious questions about the police. Edited December 4, 2017 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I think it may have been Green's lawyer when he was interviewed on Sky News, but I won't swear to that, as I didn't catch the guy's name, however he did quote sections of this law and that law, so i took it that he knew something about the law. The tv was on in the background so I wasn't listening to closely until the guy being interviewed mentioned that he'd had assurances from the Police that the material was supposed to have been destroyed. Now I don't know who gave the order and why, however I did hear whoever it was say, that, as it was not a criminal offence to have the porn on the computer and that it was not part of the Police investigation it was to be deleted from the Police files as it was not relevant to the Police investigation when they found it. We now know that didn't happen, which opens up serious questions about the police. “In accordance with standard police practice, Mr Lewis carried out the examination on digital copies he had made of the computers' hard drives. When he ran a "gallery view" of images viewed on the desktop computer in Mr Green's Portcullis House office he noticed "a lot of pornography thumbnails which indicated web browsing", that he later confirmed by an examination of the computer's internet history. The pornography was not "extreme", as some reports have suggested, and did not contain images of children or abuse, said Mr Lewis, who previously served in the Met's obscene publications unit and carried out investigations into paedophiles. The matter was not referred to the Crown Prosecution Service for a charging decision. The former detective, who spent 25 years with the Met, said after the leaks inquiry ended he was ordered by the force to delete the data on the computer copies he had made. "Morally and ethically I didn't think that was a correct way to continue," he said. The officer erased the data, as instructed, but kept the copies knowing experts could retrieve the information if they had to. However, he now believes the items may have been destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 No fan in any way of the Tories but that cop deserves to be charged. No crime was carried out so this 'evidence' should never have been kept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: “In accordance with standard police practice, Mr Lewis carried out the examination on digital copies he had made of the computers' hard drives. When he ran a "gallery view" of images viewed on the desktop computer in Mr Green's Portcullis House office he noticed "a lot of pornography thumbnails which indicated web browsing", that he later confirmed by an examination of the computer's internet history. The pornography was not "extreme", as some reports have suggested, and did not contain images of children or abuse, said Mr Lewis, who previously served in the Met's obscene publications unit and carried out investigations into paedophiles. The matter was not referred to the Crown Prosecution Service for a charging decision. The former detective, who spent 25 years with the Met, said after the leaks inquiry ended he was ordered by the force to delete the data on the computer copies he had made. "Morally and ethically I didn't think that was a correct way to continue," he said. The officer erased the data, as instructed, but kept the copies knowing experts could retrieve the information if they had to. However, he now believes the items may have been destroyed. I knew I heard right, that the files were to be destroyed. Now whoever was being interviewed also said that the retired Police officers releasing this material they were politicizing the police, which is a very dangerous road to go down, as I'll give you an example of what could very easily happen. Let's say someone is a student who gets briefly mixed up in some anti-establishment, anti-capitalist movement etc etc etc and the Police seize their computer looking for anything incriminating but all they find is some legal porn, which the student is assured by the Police will be destroyed. Fast forward 10-15-20 years and that student is now a fine upstanding member of the community, hell he might even be an MP, happily married with a couple of young kids and is seemingly squeaky clean, until porn images are leaked to the media, by a Police officer who doesn't like the guy's political party, and then all hell breaks loose, his life and career could be utterly destroyed. I think we all agree that would be a dangerous road to go down, hence why the Police have to be above Politics and if any wrongdoing has been done by these retired Police Officers then I hope they have time to reflect upon their actions when they are taking it dry in prison night after night after night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 So a top tory is viewing legal porn on a computer , it gets leaked, media latch on to it, the source of the leaks are fond to be in breach of protocol by defying orders,this is seized on and the embarresment this has caused the Tory party is watered down. Now what gets all lost in this hilarious saga is that a top so called respected tory is caught with is pants down viewing porn , it was always going to end in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I knew I heard right, that the files were to be destroyed. Now whoever was being interviewed also said that the retired Police officers releasing this material they were politicizing the police, which is a very dangerous road to go down, as I'll give you an example of what could very easily happen. Let's say someone is a student who gets briefly mixed up in some anti-establishment, anti-capitalist movement etc etc etc and the Police seize their computer looking for anything incriminating but all they find is some legal porn, which the student is assured by the Police will be destroyed. Fast forward 10-15-20 years and that student is now a fine upstanding member of the community, hell he might even be an MP, happily married with a couple of young kids and is seemingly squeaky clean, until porn images are leaked to the media, by a Police officer who doesn't like the guy's political party, and then all hell breaks loose, his life and career could be utterly destroyed. I think we all agree that would be a dangerous road to go down, hence why the Police have to be above Politics and if any wrongdoing has been done by these retired Police Officers then I hope they have time to reflect upon their actions when they are taking it dry in prison night after night after night. It still does not change the fact that a senior tory viewed porn and was caught, now the way he was caught is neither here nor there. LOL look at the smear campaign towards Corbyn ,leading up to the general election ,that is what you call a cold calculated attack. Did May not stop an investigation into allegations of senior politicians being involved in child abuse?? Did she not order that files were to be destroyed or withheld. Edited December 4, 2017 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I knew I heard right, that the files were to be destroyed. Now whoever was being interviewed also said that the retired Police officers releasing this material they were politicizing the police, which is a very dangerous road to go down, as I'll give you an example of what could very easily happen. Let's say someone is a student who gets briefly mixed up in some anti-establishment, anti-capitalist movement etc etc etc and the Police seize their computer looking for anything incriminating but all they find is some legal porn, which the student is assured by the Police will be destroyed. Fast forward 10-15-20 years and that student is now a fine upstanding member of the community, hell he might even be an MP, happily married with a couple of young kids and is seemingly squeaky clean, until porn images are leaked to the media, by a Police officer who doesn't like the guy's political party, and then all hell breaks loose, his life and career could be utterly destroyed. I think we all agree that would be a dangerous road to go down, hence why the Police have to be above Politics and if any wrongdoing has been done by these retired Police Officers then I hope they have time to reflect upon their actions when they are taking it dry in prison night after night after night. Your senario could well be attached to many to many many people. These days it’s easy to catch folks looking a porn. Back in the day it would have been Playboys under the mattress that only your parant May have found. (Not me by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 So after all the tory spin the fact is Damian Green downloaded thousands of porn images onto his workplace computer. Whether the images were legal or illegal doesn't matter. If anyone else had done this, they'd be sacked on the spot.However, the normal rules of behaviour don't seem to apply to Westminster, and the media's finger of blame is now pointing at the former police officers who blew the whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: So after all the tory spin the fact is Damian Green downloaded thousands of porn images onto his workplace computer. Whether the images were legal or illegal doesn't matter. If anyone else had done this, they'd be sacked on the spot.However, the normal rules of behaviour don't seem to apply to Westminster, and the media's finger of blame is now pointing at the former police officers who blew the whistle. And rightly so. Green hasn't committed any offences (as far as is known), the retired Police Officers who leaked the info to the media, however that could be a different story. ML, everyone knows that you hate the Tories, but don't let your hatred blind you to the bigger picture here, and that is the abuse of power and trust being shown here by retired police officers, leaking what is non-criminal material to the media, for what can only be deemed as political hatred. I would have thought you of all people would have been all over this abuse of police power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Your senario could well be attached to many to many many people. These days it’s easy to catch folks looking a porn. Back in the day it would have been Playboys under the mattress that only your parant May have found. (Not me by the way) Same here, was never into Playboy. Mayfair, Fiesta, Knave & Men Only now that was a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Never mind Damian Green being a pervert. Nadine Dorries has been giving out her computer passwords to all of her staff (including interns) in an astounding breach of security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 The Chancellor has said that the fall in overall productivity may be down to workplaces having taken on more disabled people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Cade said: The Chancellor has said that the fall in overall productivity may be down to workplaces having taken on more disabled people. These people live on another planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 20:38, Jambo-Jimbo said: And rightly so. Green hasn't committed any offences (as far as is known), the retired Police Officers who leaked the info to the media, however that could be a different story. ML, everyone knows that you hate the Tories, but don't let your hatred blind you to the bigger picture here, and that is the abuse of power and trust being shown here by retired police officers, leaking what is non-criminal material to the media, for what can only be deemed as political hatred. I would have thought you of all people would have been all over this abuse of police power. Ha Ha, yeah quite right, why shouldn't politicians spend their time in public office playing with their tackle. Jambo-Jimbo is proposing the wankers charter. Fight for the right to wank at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: Ha Ha, yeah quite right, why shouldn't politicians spend their time in public office playing with their tackle. Jambo-Jimbo is proposing the wankers charter. Fight for the right to wank at work. If you had read the reply properly you'd have seen that I was saying that the media is right to start pointing the finger and asking questions of the ex-police officers for leaking this information. Information which was supposed to have been destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 29/11/2017 at 10:08, deesidejambo said: Correct. The issue that was relevant to me at the time of the vote was to punt the Nats into the long grass so that we can return to proper governance as opposed to permanent divisive Independence debate. I now see that as secured so now I can concentrate on social equality, hence I will be voting for whatever party is the best option for that. If it happens to be the SNP at the next Holyrood election then it would be SNP But the party in the lead in this issue is Labour, with the SNP still trailing along behind and getting dragged into the tax reform issue, years after they were given the power to do something about it themselves. But its probably Thatchers fault. Social equality and voting Tory, ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 29/11/2017 at 12:21, deesidejambo said: I meant Independence was punted, which it has been. Seen the polls recently? Note good for Indy even with all the Brexit chaos. And blaming the SNPs tax inaction on Westminster is a good one. You should be on stage. You were saying? https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/12089/poll-support-scottish-independence-rises-47-cent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: Social equality and voting Tory, ffs. I only voted Tory to scupper Independence, and it worked. And there will never be social equality in any population - there will be people at the top of the social tree, and people, like you, at the bottom. Mintit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Space Mackerel said: You were saying? https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/12089/poll-support-scottish-independence-rises-47-cent Yup Indy here we come again, 47% wow.. Let me know when you get to Nicolas 60%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, deesidejambo said: Yup Indy here we come again, 47% wow.. Let me know when you get to Nicolas 60%. We started at 28% pre 2014 ref. Another couple of serious cold snaps and we could be good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, deesidejambo said: I only voted Tory to scupper Independence, and it worked. And there will never be social equality in any population - there will be people at the top of the social tree, and people, like you, at the bottom. Mintit. A bit rude, Jesus nae wonner yer Mrs sleeps about. What's mintit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: We started at 28% pre 2014 ref. Another couple of serious cold snaps and we could be good to go Naughty boy - wishing people to die so you can get your beloved Indy. Anyway after all the Brexit mess and the Tories making a total mess of simply everything they touch, Indy support only goes to 47%. Pretty poor result for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: A bit rude, Jesus nae wonner yer Mrs sleeps about. What's mintit? There will always be people at the bottom of the social ladder - thats life. Tick-tock eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Watching first minister questions today and the Tories got absolutely savaged by all the political parties and ministers who spoke. Thought Nicola sturgeons defense on the Named persons policy against Ruth Davidson was solid and she shot her down many times. The Tories really are a laughing stock. As for Leonard..how can anyone take Scottish Labour seriously these days. Anytime he was presented a question he just pauses, looks confused then continues reading a pre prepared section off a sheet without any sort of rebuttal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Watching first minister questions today and the Tories got absolutely savaged by all the political parties and ministers who spoke. Thought Nicola sturgeons defense on the Named persons policy against Ruth Davidson was solid and she shot her down many times. The Tories really are a laughing stock. As for Leonard..how can anyone take Scottish Labour seriously these days. Anytime he was presented a question he just pauses, looks confused then continues reading a pre prepared section off a sheet without any sort of rebuttal. Yet the Named Person has been kicked into touch for another year. It simply wont get past the Courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Brutal news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-42255434 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, deesidejambo said: There will always be people at the bottom of the social ladder - thats life. Tick-tock eh? That's life? Maybe life should be changed and we could have equality. Unless you agree with it and your social equality claim is bogus. Social equality but some more socially equal than others. Is your clock broke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: Brutal news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-42255434 https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people Also, shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said: https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people Also, shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: That's life? Maybe life should be changed and we could have equality. Unless you agree with it and your social equality claim is bogus. Social equality but some more socially equal than others. Is your clock broke? Social equality is usually measured by wealth. There are rich people and there are poor people. That will always be the case - thats life. The poor will hate the rich, and the rich will look down on the poor. You choose where you are on the spectrum. Social justice does not mean everyone is equal. But it does mean, in my view, that the rich-poor gap at the moment is too wide and th erich should be taxed more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, deesidejambo said: Social equality is usually measured by wealth. There are rich people and there are poor people. That will always be the case - thats life. The poor will hate the rich, and the rich will look down on the poor. You choose where you are on the spectrum. Social justice does not mean everyone is equal. But it does mean, in my view, that the rich-poor gap at the moment is too wide and th erich should be taxed more. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Why? Why what? If you mean why should the rich be taxed more, its simple - they can afford it. For example that university chancellors last salary was £800,000. She could easily afford to be taxed at higher than the 45% max rate and be extremely well-off. And up here in sheepland it is not uncommon to see peeps on pensions of 70k per year. Not bad for a pension eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, deesidejambo said: Why what? If you mean why should the rich be taxed more, its simple - they can afford it. For example that university chancellors last salary was £800,000. She could easily afford to be taxed at higher than the 45% max rate and be extremely well-off. And up here in sheepland it is not uncommon to see peeps on pensions of 70k per year. Not bad for a pension eh? Why should there be rich and poor? Why should we put it down to that's life. Maybe we can agree to help fight this, starting with the Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Classic Torys. Cut the budgets, award themselves inflation busting pay rises. https://evolvepolitics.com/tory-council-award-themselves-11-pay-rise-just-hours-after-voting-for-cuts-to-kids-services/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb102 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 07/12/2017 at 16:10, Space Mackerel said: Brutal news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-42255434 This is not the experience I have just had. 1.75hr wait for an ambulance whilst working on my unconscious Father.(In Craiglockhart btw not in the sticks). Overnight on a trolley and turfed out of RIE against their own written head injury protocol. The NHS continue to **** the poor old guy about through his GP. If I treated livestock this way it would end in a conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, jb102 said: This is not the experience I have just had. 1.75hr wait for an ambulance whilst working on my unconscious Father.(In Craiglockhart btw not in the sticks). Overnight on a trolley and turfed out of RIE against their own written head injury protocol. The NHS continue to **** the poor old guy about through his GP. If I treated livestock this way it would end in a conviction. Sorry to hear, not nice. Obviously this is a fault for NHS Lothian to investigate and hardly is not the fault of the SNP. I would be writing to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: Classic Torys. Cut the budgets, award themselves inflation busting pay rises. https://evolvepolitics.com/tory-council-award-themselves-11-pay-rise-just-hours-after-voting-for-cuts-to-kids-services/ Shocking, dreadful, just the same as MP's getting an 11% pay rise when Nurses get 1%, but that's a different story. Of course the 17 Labour, 11 Lib Dem & 1 Independent councillors will all refuse this wage rise, won't they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb102 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said: Sorry to hear, not nice. Obviously this is a fault for NHS Lothian to investigate and hardly is not the fault of the SNP. I would be writing to them. I wasn't making a political statement. I didn't even hint at blaming the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 7 December 2017 at 16:19, Space Mackerel said: Except it was separation from the Russian Empire, not from Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Remember that Tory lie sorry i mean their mantra of " IN IT TOGETHER".. Edited December 16, 2017 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Remember that Tory lie sorry i mean their mantra of " IN IT TOGETHER".. You're never happy are you? It was caviar last year and those poor Tories are having to slum it with Lobster this year, give them a break man, it can't be easy being rich. Edited December 16, 2017 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Remember that Tory lie sorry i mean their mantra of " IN IT TOGETHER".. So ML if you eat Lobster or beef you are an evil Tory? I expect plenty here on KB have eaten Lobster or beef before. Are they all therefore Tories? ML - Start trying to think for yourself for a change and answer a simple question - If the Tories are so evil, why do people vote for them? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, deesidejambo said: So ML if you eat Lobster or beef you are an evil Tory? I expect plenty here on KB have eaten Lobster or beef before. Are they all therefore Tories? ML - Start trying to think for yourself for a change and answer a simple question - If the Tories are so evil, why do people vote for them? . ^^ conveniently misses out the super rich and donors part. How may times have you sat down to a whole or half lobster this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: You're never happy are you? It was caviar last year and those poor Tories are having to slum it with Lobster this year, give them a break man, it can't be easy being rich. You are never angry though, it will be lobster again next year and caviar too but those Tory **** will still piss on the poor, Nice attempt at trolling , laughing at the expense of those without without you feel manley eh. Why dont they give the poor a break cant be easy having feck all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 20:38, Jambo-Jimbo said: And rightly so. Green hasn't committed any offences (as far as is known), the retired Police Officers who leaked the info to the media, however that could be a different story. ML, everyone knows that you hate the Tories, but don't let your hatred blind you to the bigger picture here, and that is the abuse of power and trust being shown here by retired police officers, leaking what is non-criminal material to the media, for what can only be deemed as political hatred. I would have thought you of all people would have been all over this abuse of police power. No words, feck all, what was found on his computer, if i had done that at my work it would have been the sack mate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: You are never angry though, it will be lobster again next year and caviar too but those Tory **** will still piss on the poor, Nice attempt at trolling , laughing at the expense of those without without you feel manley eh. Why dont they give the poor a break cant be easy having feck all, Know the feeling well, got the tee-shirt and all. And yes I try and not get angry, as all political parties are all the same, if it's not the Tories fecking things up then it's Labour who is, then the Tories, then Labour and round and round we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, deesidejambo said: So ML if you eat Lobster or beef you are an evil Tory? I expect plenty here on KB have eaten Lobster or beef before. Are they all therefore Tories? ML - Start trying to think for yourself for a change and answer a simple question - If the Tories are so evil, why do people vote for them? . Trick is when trying to be a smart arse troll boy you always give your self away for not thinking it through, you just are smart enough. How about you being a man and admit the content of that theme i posted was never about the lobster , it was about the inequality of her insidious policies on the those vulnerable in our country and the fact she sat down to such a meal after those polices were put in place. How's that for thinking for myself. You missed out the "super rich and hidden donors" bit and the FACT she is an evil cow by her very policies on welfare and social spending cuts those are a testimony of that but you knew that anyway, or at least i think you did , you cant be that thick surely. Oh and tell me again why she needed to bribe the DUP with a £billion of OUR tax payers money to get into power . Your are a one trick pony mate and a shie one at that, now way back to your lobster and caviar life style. Edited December 16, 2017 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: No words, feck all, what was found on his computer, if i had done that at my work it would have been the sack mate, And the same with most of the population I'd guess, they would be out the door, however the point in question here wasn't what was found on his computer but the breech of trust shown by the Police officers who leaked the info to the media, years after they had been ordered to destroy that info. And on Thursday there, we had a guy who's rape trail collapsed after the Police were ordered by the court to release vital information which they had withheld from the defence for two years, which proved his innocence. I'd be a bit more concerned about the actions of the Police, whom it has been shown in these two cases alone, can withhold crucial information or hold onto information Illegally to then be used against someone at a later date. This concerns me a great deal more than some legal porn found on some guy's computer, indeed it is something which should be of concern to every member of the public, that the Police can and do stitch people up or destroy careers at the drop of a hat whenever it suits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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