alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think he did it my wife not so much. She believes Brandon's brother and the other shifty uncle. (Open shirt,gold chain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Only on episode 4 and it's a complete **** up. Just posting this and not reading anything on here. Absolutely mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Not sure why you struggle to have a conversation just because someone disagrees with you. Anyway.... yes, you're correct I made my judgement based on all the evidence and not just one piece of evidence. Didn't think you'd come back with any counters to the evidence I felt was tampered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboHeriot Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Steven Avery: Innocent or Guilty ? Programme is on the ID channel on Sunday night at 9pm.. Sky channel 522. Watching this now. Kratz gees me the fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkJambo Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Didn't think you'd come back with any counters to the evidence I felt was tampered with. Haha- it's the weekend. I was out having a life. I haven't even clicked on your link yet. Maybe tomorrow at work! You're quite an argumentative angry person aren't you!? Maybe try and relax? Edited January 31, 2016 by NewYorkJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Haha- it's the weekend. I was out having a life. I haven't even clicked on your link yet. Maybe tomorrow at work! You're quite an argumentative angry person aren't you!? Maybe try and relax? Argumentative???? For debating something?? Ok then bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRobbo10 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Murray probably the most likely to be doping to be honest, comparatively shite technically, shit Scottish genes, constant roid rage on court ... :toff2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Murray probably the most likely to be doping to be honest, comparatively shite technically, shit Scottish genes, constant roid rage on court ... :toff2: It's a shame they weren't allowed to use this in Avery's defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 It's a shame they weren't allowed to use this in Avery's defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 It's a shame they weren't allowed to use this in Avery's defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Watched the first 3 episodes. Unbelievable. And scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody been watching Killing Fields on Discovery? A documentary series following an on-going murder investigation. It's not as well made as Making of a Murderer, but still pretty compelling viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi123 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Anybody been watching Killing Fields on Discovery? A documentary series following an on-going murder investigation. It's not as well made as Making of a Murderer, but still pretty compelling viewing. Is it a documentary or drama?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Is it a documentary or drama?? Documentary about a re-opened investigation into a murder 18 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Brendan's conviction has been overturned: http://www.eonline.com/news/787359/making-a-murderer-s-brendan-dassey-conviction-overturned-could-be-released-in-90-days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Jackson Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Would be interested in seeing a documentary on this case that actually contains all the evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Brendan's conviction has been overturned: http://www.eonline.com/news/787359/making-a-murderer-s-brendan-dassey-conviction-overturned-could-be-released-in-90-days His conviction was an absolute disgrace. Guaranteed the state will go after him again though. Edited August 12, 2016 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Brilliant. Poor boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Out of the whole show his conviction was what concerned me the most. The way that simple, uneducated lad was treated was an absoloute disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Get him the ****ing wrestlemania DVDs now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Nearly 10 years inside. The monetary compensation due would be huge but from memory of the show I think there was something about a particular state law which meant that they could not be sued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Nearly 10 years inside. The monetary compensation due would be huge but from memory of the show I think there was something about a particular state law which meant that they could not be sued. Let's hope they don't stitch him up for some other crime he didn't do just before he gets his compensation settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Prosecutors are looking to overturn the decision to release Brendan Dassey. After everything he's gone through and then being told he'll be released within 90 days to then possibly have the rug pulled out from under him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Prosecutors are looking to overturn the decision to release Brendan Dassey. After everything he's gone through and then being told he'll be released within 90 days to then possibly have the rug pulled out from under him! Yeah, attorney general has appealed the decision. Entirely predictable, so hopefully he has decent enough legal representation this time, and was aware that was likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Yeah, attorney general has appealed the decision. Entirely predictable, so hopefully he has decent enough legal representation this time, and was aware that was likely to happen. When I read it I immediately thought that he's probably thinking anything they can do to keep him in they'll do. As much as it was a surprise when I read it, it shouldn't have been and I doubt it was to him or his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Price well and truly puts me off. ?30 a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 ?30. Hope this is funding Brendan's appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Jarman Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 ?30. Hope this is funding Brendan's appeal. Or at least paying for a portable DVD player & some backdated Wrestlemania DVDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 ?30!!! Jog on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Tickets bought. Should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Could be interesting. Can't see that you'd learn much that wasn't in the documentary. Can't really blame them for cashing in, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Wisconsin judge had ordered independent retests on the evidence that convicted Avery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I watched this and it seemed to me that the local copes did not like him and went after him from the off with out much to go on. After they started fabricating shit others were ether forced to get on board or favors (blackmail) were called in. When the spotlight hit it they started to panic and the hole got deeper and others were dragged into it until what they had done, and more importantly who had been dragged into it, made it imposable for them to do anything other than what they have done. The web they weave eh. There but for the grace of God and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Wisconsin judge had ordered independent retests on the evidence that convicted Avery.Got a link so I can have a further read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Berwick Jambo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I was looking for another tv series to watch and i remembered quite a few folk on here had mentioned this so i decided to stick it on this morning. Well after about twenty minutes of the first episode I knew I was going to have to watch this all the way to the end and after far too many hours in front of the screen I now sit here with my chin on the floor thinking two things! How the **** did it take me almost a year for me to watch this and more importantly just how the **** were either of them ever convicted on such little physical evidence? Just jaw dropping at times!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just noticed this on his defence lawyers twitter: https://twitter.com/zellnerlaw/status/805591758138642432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Got a link so I can have a further read? Sorry bud I didn't see this response. It was on BBC however a quick Google found this. http://www.skynews.com.au/culture/showbiz/tv/2016/11/24/-making-a-murderer--evidence-to-be-re-tested.html You've probably seen it though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendoll Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tickets bought. Should be interesting.How was the show? Anything learnt that the show didn't reveal? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 How was the show? Anything learnt that the show didn't reveal? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk It's in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendoll Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 It's in January.Grand. Keep us posted, think it'll be really interesting. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 They are making a new series of making a murderer as well with all the latest updates such as Brendan Dasseys release. Cant wait. Hopefully this time they present all the facts rather than leaving out vital bits of information which could change the viewers perception of Steven Average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 So those who will Ken better than me think your Mans guilty ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 So those who will Ken better than me think your Mans guilty ?? No. Stitched right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) No. Stitched right up. It sure looked that way when I watched the Doc on Netflix Like no blood in the bedroom and how many times did they search the house before finding the damning evidence I sometimes watch the Crime Channels on SKY Never the perfect justice system some better than others but what does stand out in the USA is the Prosecutors dont care a jot about guilt its all about them winning the case Just watched one the day where two Bro's done 25yr for a crime which was patently obvious that they did not commit but the DA Office still refused point blank to accept the Not Guilty verdict even though the Brothers did walk Jaw dropping stuff at times Edited December 6, 2016 by jambo1961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 So those who will Ken better than me think your Mans guilty ?? Do I think he is guilty? Yes. Do I think he should have been convicted? No. Simply because police clearly planted evidence and there being to many people involved who had motive to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 BTW if you liked making a murderer then watch Death on a staircase and The Jinx. Two very similar types of courtroom documentaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Do I think he is guilty? Yes. Do I think he should have been convicted? No. Simply because police clearly planted evidence and there being to many people involved who had motive to do it. Why do you think he is guilty? Apologies if already stated on this thread (can't be arsed trawling through). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why do you think he is guilty? Apologies if already stated on this thread (can't be arsed trawling through). Quite a few reasons. (spoiler alert guys) 1 - Avery has a pretty big record for crime and previous for violence. He burned a dog/cat (can't recall which) alive. 2- They found Theresa Halbachs Camera and phone 20ft away from averys front door in a barrel. This was not mentioned in the documentary and certianly was not Planted. 3 - Averys DNA was found in Halbachs car bonnent. Not blood but DNA. This crucial peice of evidence was not included in the documentary either for some reason. The police could not plant this. 4- Are we to Believe police either planted bones or actually murdered Halbachs body in order to convict Avery? The above doesn't matter anyways. As soon as the police started planting evidence (which to me can't be disputed) then all the other evidence becomes tainted and therefore admissible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I've always thought Avery is a wrong un but shouldn't have been convicted on the evidence that we seen. He was convicted for throwing a cat on a fire but I suppose that doesn't make you a murderer either...I was leaning towards the cousin and Dasseys brother myself who were seen around the time of Halbachs disappearance. A strange case all round anyway and I'll look forward to the next series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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