The Official JKB Conspiracy Theory Thread

[Space Mackerel]

Are you now claiming Jim Lovell didn't exist either?

Where did I claim that?

 

 

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[Geoff the Mince]

I watched Apollo 13 in a US Naval base in Sicily. FAF watching all the Yanks jump up and down in the cinema, hooping and a hollering when Tom Hanks made it back.

Guess it was just a movie though.

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Did you tell them your weird views on 9/11 ?

[Space Mackerel]

Did you remember to tell them Apollo 13 never happened?

I just waved my Star Spangled Banner in a vacuum.

 

 

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[deesidejambo]

I just waved my Star Spangled Banner in a vacuum.

 

 

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That must have hurt

[deesidejambo]

Did you tell them your weird views on 9/11 ?

Indeed the Pentagon one is a cracker

[maroonlegions]

Some links for anyone who still doubts or has some reservations that man landed on the moon.

 

 

These two quotes below are just starters.

 

 

 

"The other thing about it is, this conspiracy theory, is [that] the truth needs no defense. I don't have to respond to that. I stepped on the surface of the Moon, and I don't really need to defend that, because I know it happened, I know I did."

Eugene Cernan, Oral History    

 

?About six percent of Americans think it?s a hoax, and that we never went. That?s supposed to make me outraged, but it doesn?t, it makes me laugh.?

Mike Collins.

 

 

How satellite photographs proved we went to the moon;

 

 

         

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/CATM/catmindex1.html

 

 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/se3ydsw2ycof9um/CATM-final.pdf

 

 

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/pdf/CATM-final.pdf

 

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-Moon

 

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-Moon

 

 

 

The debunking of nonsense elsewhere

 

 

 

http://onebigmonkey.com/itburns/bunker.html

 

An analysis of Apollo Landing Sites. 

[Sidelight]

Using the same technology as Marco Polo now.

 

NASA no longer has the technology to send a manned space craft to the moon and back. Apparently it?s been lost over time. They claim that 69 was a technology overshoot and that the event was out of its time line. However they now claim that present day technology and engineering developments are starting to allow a reboot for a man on the moon mission.

 

[maroonlegions]

This famous image of the earth captured by Apollo 8 astronauts is testimony that it was indeed taken by Apollo 8 by matching it to Stellariums view of the earth exactly as it was then and compared to Apollo 8s photo of the earth. 

 

 

 

 It?s one of the most famous photographs ever taken: the first image of Earth rising over the moon?s horizon as Apollo 8 orbited the moon in December 1968.

 

Some people would have you believe that the image is faked, that it never happened, when in fact all the evidence you need to prove it is genuine is right there in the image.

 

 

The first photograph taken is actually a black and white one, AS08-13-2329, but the one most commonly used is the colour one taken shortly after it as the Apollo 8 crew realised the importance of what they were seeing AS08-14-2383.

 

Here are the two images taken from the Project Apollo Flickr Archive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We?ll deal mostly with the colour one, as this is the most commonly reproduced image.

 

There are some people who don?t appreciate that the earthrise photograph has been around for decades and think that the only versions around are the ones you see on the internet.

 

In order to dispel that myth here are some copies from actual books, newspapers and magazines.

 

 

 

Life Magazine, January 20, 1969 (UK edition);

 

 

Thus proving that the iconic image of the earth taken from Apollo 8 is genuine, as it matched Stellarium?s view of the earth at exactly the same location when Apollo 8 captured that image of the earth. 

 

 

 

 

Apollo 8 and Stellariums images of the earth;

 

 

As we know exactly when the image was taken we should be able to tell exactly what should be visible in terms of the landmass and position of the terminator. Here?s Stellarium?s view compared with the Apollo 8 photograph.

 

Couldn?t be more accurate.

 

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/earthrise/earthrise.html

Edited September 26, 2017 by maroonlegions

[Space Mackerel]

Just finished a job for a retired engineer I?ve known for about 8 years.

 

Me: Hey Archie, having this discussion on a football forum, what?s your opinion, do you think man has visited the moon?

 

Archie: Fake!

 

 

 

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[The Internet]

Was space mackerel the one that trolled the kodi thread for ages?

[maroonlegions]

Well that?s me convinced. What?s Archie?s view on flat earth? Could save people millions if we just ask Archie.

 

 

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[Unknown user]

Was space mackerel the one that trolled the kodi thread for ages?

Bingo

[Space Mackerel]

Well that?s me convinced. What?s Archie?s view on flat earth? Could save people millions if we just ask Archie.

 

 

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I didn?t ask him although he did say he watched the landings as a young man mesmerised. Now and I quote, ?the only things that were missing were the cables from their arms and legs?

 

The Cold War was at its peak all around that era, Cuban missile crisis etc and TV in households was a fairly new thing too. Think about it and add it all up. It?s a pile of nonsense man landing on the moon. They can?t even do it today.

[Bridge of Djoum]

Was space mackerel the one that trolled the kodi thread for ages?

 

Was space mackerel the one that trolled the kodi thread for ages?

I really want that job!

[The White Cockade]

I didn?t ask him although he did say he watched the landings as a young man mesmerised. Now and I quote, ?the only things that were missing were the cables from their arms and legs?

 

The Cold War was at its peak all around that era, Cuban missile crisis etc and TV in households was a fairly new thing too. Think about it and add it all up. It?s a pile of nonsense man landing on the moon. They can?t even do it today.

aye the Cold War was at it's height

that's why the Russians went along with the moon landing story then when in reality they would have shouted from the rooftops if it was faked

You still haven't told us why other countries went along with it

Maybe you could ask Archie?

[deesidejambo]

Just finished a job for a retired engineer I?ve known for about 8 years.

 

Me: Hey Archie, having this discussion on a football forum, what?s your opinion, do you think man has visited the moon?

 

Archie: Fake!

 

 

 

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So Archie is as thick as you. Put a few quid extra on your invoice - he won't notice.

[Space Mackerel]

 

Sing along now.

 

 

Mott the Hoople and the game of Life yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Andy Kaufman in the wrestling match yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Monopoly, Twenty one, checkers, and chess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Fred Blassie in a breakfast mess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Let's play Twister, let's play Risk yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I'll see you in heaven if you make the list yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

Moses went walking with the staff of wood yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Newton got beaned by the apple good yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Egypt was troubled by the horrible asp yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Charles Darwin had the gall to ask yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are you having fun?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

Here's a little agit for the never-believer yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a little ghost for the offering yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a truck stop instead of Saint Peter's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Andy Kaufman's gone wrestling yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

[Geoff the Mince]

Sing along now.

Mott the Hoople and the game of Life yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Andy Kaufman in the wrestling match yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Monopoly, Twenty one, checkers, and chess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Fred Blassie in a breakfast mess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Let's play Twister, let's play Risk yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I'll see you in heaven if you make the list yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

Moses went walking with the staff of wood yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Newton got beaned by the apple good yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Egypt was troubled by the horrible asp yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Charles Darwin had the gall to ask yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are you having fun?

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

Here's a little agit for the never-believer yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a little ghost for the offering yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a truck stop instead of Saint Peter's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Andy Kaufman's gone wrestling yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

Seek help !

[deesidejambo]

Sing along now.

 

 

Mott the Hoople and the game of Life yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Andy Kaufman in the wrestling match yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Monopoly, Twenty one, checkers, and chess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Fred Blassie in a breakfast mess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Let's play Twister, let's play Risk yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I'll see you in heaven if you make the list yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

Moses went walking with the staff of wood yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Newton got beaned by the apple good yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Egypt was troubled by the horrible asp yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Charles Darwin had the gall to ask yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are you having fun?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

Here's a little agit for the never-believer yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a little ghost for the offering yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Here's a truck stop instead of Saint Peter's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Mister Andy Kaufman's gone wrestling yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

 

Now, Andy did you hear about this one?

Tell me, are you locked in the punch?

Andy are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby

Are we losing touch?

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

 

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Man on the moon

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve

Then nothing is cool

Another thread trashed. But you managed to deflect away from your dumb Pentagon theory so well done.

[Space Mackerel]

Another thread trashed. But you managed to deflect away from your dumb Pentagon theory so well done.

I thought this thread was about discussing conspiracy theory?s? I think it?s the people who come on here to have a pop at the posters rather than discuss any flaws in the official statements and evidence. Which is what I?m doing.

 

Quite like that R.E.M. song too but not a huge fan TBH.

[jake]

I thought this thread was about discussing conspiracy theory?s? I think it?s the people who come on here to have a pop at the posters rather than discuss any flaws in the official statements and evidence. Which is what I?m doing.

 

Quite like that R.E.M. song too but not a huge fan TBH.

 

Yep.

He thinks the conspiracy thread is about abuse.

Was very interested in Alphas post.

[deesidejambo]

I thought this thread was about discussing conspiracy theory?s? I think it?s the people who come on here to have a pop at the posters rather than discuss any flaws in the official statements and evidence. Which is what I?m doing.

 

Quite like that R.E.M. song too but not a huge fan TBH.

You don't discuss anything. You just Troll and evade.

 

Let's try it.

 

Are the LRO photos faked or not? Discuss.

 

And posting R.E.M. Songs is not discussing.

[deesidejambo]

You don't discuss anything. You just Troll and evade.

 

Let's try it.

 

Are the LRO photos faked or not? Discuss.

 

And posting R.E.M. Songs is not discussing.

And while you are at it.'

 

Do you still believe the Pentagon hit by a missile? And if so how did they get the passengers bodies and aircraft parts into it?

[Space Mackerel]

And while you are at it.'

 

Do you still believe the Pentagon hit by a missile? And if so how did they get the passengers bodies and aircraft parts into it?

I don?t believe it was hit by an aircraft, not in the slightest. Was it a missile, what else could it be, I don?t know. A lot of pilots think the same.

 

There are no photos of bodies that I have seen and the aircraft parts evidence is dubious at best. Coupled with the fact that the pilot was supposedly trained in a single engine aircraft and managed to fly a commercial jet into a building 75 feet high from 8000 feet doing a 270 banking descend. That?s like going from a moped to a HGV.

 

Do you have any comprehension how difficult that would be? Have you flown any real multi engine jet simulators?

[deesidejambo]

I don?t believe it was hit by an aircraft, not in the slightest. Was it a missile, what else could it be, I don?t know. A lot of pilots think the same.

 

There are no photos of bodies that I have seen and the aircraft parts evidence is dubious at best. Coupled with the fact that the pilot was supposedly trained in a single engine aircraft and managed to fly a commercial jet into a building 75 feet high from 8000 feet doing a 270 banking descend. That?s like going from a moped to a HGV.

 

Do you have any comprehension how difficult that would be? Have you flown any real multi engine jet simulators?

There were multiple bodies recovered fron the site. All identified by DNA as relatives from Flight 77 and returned to their families for burial.

 

There were multiple aircraft parts found at the site all identified as parts of Flight 77.

 

How did those bodies and parts get to the site?

[jake]

Why is it that the pentagon the most cctv covered building in the world cannot release footage of the plane impacting .

[deesidejambo]

Why is it that the pentagon the most cctv covered building in the world cannot release footage of the plane impacting .

Answer a question with a different question. Nice.

 

Explain how the bodies got to the site.

[jake]

Indeed

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/did-we-lose-the-technolog_b_5658701.html

 

Didnt someone say they had the actual spacecraft on show earlier in the thread?

[jake]

Answer a question with a different question. Nice.

 

Explain how the bodies got to the site.

 

Im not trying to answer you just asking why?

Dont see the reasons why they dont if it happened.

Its a pertinent question.

Feel free to answer or not.

But please if you are responding try not to name call.

[deesidejambo]

Didnt someone say they had the actual spacecraft on show earlier in the thread?

The unused LM and recovered Command Modules are in museums around the world. One is in London. If I remember correctly.

[Space Mackerel]

Answer a question with a different question. Nice.

 

Explain how the bodies got to the site.

Where did all the CCTV go?

[jake]

Indeed

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/did-we-lose-the-technolog_b_5658701.html

 

 

Mmmmm bit dodgy this huffington post.

 

Like breitbart but from the liberal side.

Lol

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Huffington-Post-considered-credible

Edited September 26, 2017 by jake

[jake]

You would imagine that something as important as moonlandings would have the methodology still on record.

[deesidejambo]

Im not trying to answer you just asking why?

Dont see the reasons why they dont if it happened.

Its a pertinent question.

Feel free to answer or not.

But please if you are responding try not to name call.

Ach you win.

 

The bodies recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

The aircraft parts recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

All the people who recovered the bodies are lying.

 

Silly me.

 

Byeeeeeeer

[jake]

Ach you win.

 

The bodies recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

The aircraft parts recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

All the people who recovered the bodies are lying.

 

Silly me.

 

Byeeeeeeer

 

Its not about winning deeside.

 

Sorry you feel that way.

And i can tell the moon landings are important to you .

[Space Mackerel]

Ach you win.

 

The bodies recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

The aircraft parts recovered from the site didn't exist.

 

All the people who recovered the bodies are lying.

 

Silly me.

 

Byeeeeeeer

Where did the CCTV go?

 

Do you not think it?s the slightest bit strange? It?s the Pentagon you know, not the local corner shop.

[Sidelight]

You would imagine that something as important as moonlandings would have the methodology still on record.

I believe that all detailed engineering plans for the LEM have been lost or destroyed.

However it?s well known in engineering circles that the ship had insufficient interior space to allow the suited and booted crew to function.

?The fit and finish look very poor.

 

Edited September 26, 2017 by alfajambo

[Space Mackerel]

I believe that all detailed engineering plans for the LEM have been lost or destroyed.

However it?s well known in engineering circles that the ship had insufficient interior space to allow the suited and booted crew to function.

?The fit and finish look very poor.

 

Has someone asked the Blue Peter crew?

[Sidelight]

Has someone asked the Blue Peter crew?

Exactly, and that's the one they made earlier.

[jake]

 

I believe that all detailed engineering plans for the LEM have been lost or destroyed.

However it?s well known in engineering circles that the ship had insufficient interior space to allow the suited and booted crew to function.

?The fit and finish look very poor.

 

 

What?

 

The detailed engineering plans for the greatest achievement in travel of mankind .

Lost files .

 

 

Destroyed ?

 

How much room was there inside ?

[jake]

Have these detailed plans ever been available to the public?

 

Or available for scrutiny?

[Sidelight]

What?

 

The detailed engineering plans for the greatest achievement in travel of mankind .

Lost files .

 

 

Destroyed ?

 

How much room was there inside ?

 

LOL

Edited September 26, 2017 by alfajambo

[Space Mackerel]

 

LOL

That made us laugh. Unbelievable if these photos are actually the real deal though. The buggy being taken there was another thing I was going to mention, where did they strap that too on the outside?

 

Any info on the engineering side of this alfa? You know more about it than me.

[highway]

I'm sure i can see Stanley Kubrick in the background.

[Space Mackerel]

I'm sure i can see Stanley Kubrick in the background.

Rumours that his next film The Shining contained many references to his part in producing the hoax.

[jack D and coke]

I believe that all detailed engineering plans for the LEM have been lost or destroyed.

However it?s well known in engineering circles that the ship had insufficient interior space to allow the suited and booted crew to function.

?The fit and finish look very poor.

 

That?s hideous!

That?s like grey toilet paper and that gold wrapper that used to be round the old lucozade bottles[emoji23]

That landed on the moon aye?!??

[Space Mackerel]

It was more like a fold up moped that you put in the boot of your car.

 

 

Stop it please! 

[Space Mackerel]

That?s hideous!

That?s like grey toilet paper and that gold wrapper that used to be round the old lucozade bottles[emoji23]

That landed on the moon aye?!??

 

 

Its such special toilet paper and gold wrapping they've never even documented it and now they've all forgotten how they made it!

[Space Mackerel]

I'm confused about what you are finding so amusing about that? Exactly what were you expecting them to do?

 

 

Did they get their little space tool kits out and put it together outside in the dusty environment? Quite a feat with all that gear on?

[Space Mackerel]

I'm confused about what you are finding so amusing about that? Exactly what were you expecting them to do?

 

Just think, when weight and space are at a premium on a mission of this complex back then in the 60's, the first thing you're going to do is add a little buggy to complicate matters