jambovambo Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 They've just been discussing this on Tam and Stuart. Said Doncaster really needs to sit up and take note of the %ages ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Excuse me, Drylaw Hearts...still waiting. So let me get this right...... Hearts are at home to Hibs needing only a draw to win the SPL and you would't go ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 So let me get this right...... Hearts are at home to Hibs needing only a draw to win the SPL and you would't go ? I think the point is Drylaw is that the authorities are doing everything to prevent this scenario occuring. the league is a fix and sham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think the point is Drylaw is that the authorities are doing everything to prevent this scenario occuring. the league is a fix and sham I understand fully what is going on. However.... My point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I understand fully what is going on. However.... My point still stands. I think in that scenario all bets are off :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 So let me get this right...... Hearts are at home to Hibs needing only a draw to win the SPL and you would't go ? That's correct. I wouldn't go. Now...about that apology... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Did the survey but did not receive the e-mail. Should I do it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Did the survey but did not receive the e-mail. Should I do it again? Check your junk mailbox. That's where my confirmation email from them ended up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_man Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Done. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Oops, I hadnt confirmed. Done now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Did the survey but did not receive the e-mail. Should I do it again? Assuming you didn't mis-type your email maybe could always check your junk first? May have ended up in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 That's correct. I wouldn't go. Now...about that apology... Really ? Then you have my apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Assuming you didn't mis-type your email maybe could always check your junk first? May have ended up in there. Had already checked. May have mis-typed though. Will try again. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Check your junk mailbox. That's where my confirmation email from them ended up. Had done thanks. Nothing from survey but a couple of very good viagra offers to help me get up for the game tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Had done thanks. Nothing from survey but a couple of very good viagra offers to help me get up for the game tomorrow. My e-mail took a couple of days to reach me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 My e-mail took a couple of days to reach me. OK thanks. Will wait till tomorrow before trying again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Totally agree.I posted this on another thread this morning I've always said that the best way to influence any company is to impact their income\profit. I cannot see how fans can influence the SPL they get their money from Sponsorship deals. So apart from embarrassing them by SPL home fans boycotting games when the Rangers or Celtic visit, these games usually on TV so the pictures would show near empty stadiums which would be bad for sponsors and advertisers, what can fans do. On average 80,000 people attend Scottish Football matches each weekend half of these are the OF home game so the number of people we are talking about either doing a boycott or display is minimal in the greater scheme of things. Mr Topping has told us that the drive for change is having an adverse effect on the SPL's advertising sponsorship drive so that's the big stick they are trying to beat us with " rock the boat and you will get less money". As I see it then the way to effect the SPL is through the sponsors so aim to affect their income. Instead of concentrating on the 40,000 people who attend matches we should concentrate on the numbers who don't but watch on Sky\Espn at home. If these people cared enough they could influence the broadcasters stance. Within Scotland I would think there must be over 1,000,000 sky sports subscriptions if you could get enough of these to cancel their subscriptions on the same day Sky would take notice. The sports pack is currently ? 20 per month on their web site. 50,000 people is ? 1,000,000 a month to sky. You may think that Sky is so huge that ? 1,000,000 is too small an amount for them to notice it's not they measure and worry about not only income but market share so they would notice the money and if large numbers of subscribers cancelled at the same time. Pick a start date say 1st June and see what happens. Thanks for the support!!! In light of Sky's reluctance perhaps we may make them the subject of the next survey!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Thanks for the support!!! In light of Sky's reluctance perhaps we may make them the subject of the next survey!!! Good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmxweeman Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 done on both personal and business email accounts. plus the wifes. got whole family on the petition. bin them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Thank you very much for contacting Sky Sports News.We are grateful to everyone who takes the time to get in touch with us although unfortunately we are not able to reply to individual messages. Our automated system displays every message in full screen and we do read all of them. If you have queries about Sky?s services, please check out www.sky.com or contact our Customer Relations department on 08442 41 41 41. You can also contact us via our website: www.skysports.com What a nice cuddly caring organisation they are. Keep of the pressure folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleysjam Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 done would also gladly cancel sky sports fed up wi rangers celtic every game just about anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 My e-mail took a couple of days to reach me. OK thanks. Will wait till tomorrow before trying again. I'm going to do a mass re-send tomorrow, I moved the site to a dedicated server because the shared hosting had a sending limit, hence loads not being able to get sent out and being sent at a later time! (Mark) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Sky are clearly bellends who don't care, they've continually ignored e-mails from us and God knows how many fans. So, we're planning to put a statement on the homepage of the survey site to make it clear we feel that Sky do not care about the voices of Scottish Football fans. What do you think about the following message: SKY SPORTS DON'T CARE ABOUT SCOTTISH FANS We've been covered by the BBC on multiple occasions and other journalists have shown interest and requested access, but why are Sky so silent on this? We feel this silence speaks volumes, they don't care about us. Sky, who continually cause fans problems because of absolutely ridiculous kick off times to suit their TV schedules. Send [email protected] a e-mail to urge them to cover the survey and to let millions know that we've spoken. If they don't listen, perhaps it's time to reconsider giving them our money - Sky don't care about us, they don't care about football, they care about money. Football didn't start with Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I know you guys thoughts are elsewhere just like mine yesterday but reality is we still need to address other matters. Latest stats show it's been a slow weekend though was expected a lot of distractions so we need to re-gather momentum . Hearts fans have been great so far but with 1155 responses so far from your fans i'm sure we can get a lot more from your support. There have been a total of 11278 responses. If Rangers are liquidated and reformed as a Newco, should they be allowed immediate re-entry into the SPL? No (10795) - 95.72% Yes (483) - 4.28% In the event of a Rangers Newco being allowed immediate re-entry how, as a supporter of another SPL/SFL club would you respond? I would continue to attend SPL fixtures as normal (1296) - 11.49% I would NOT attend any SPL fixtures at all (6018) - 53.36% I would continue to attend SPL fixtures but boycott any fixtures involving the Rangers Newco (3595) - 31.88% I support an SFL team so don't attend any SPL fixtures (369) - 3.27% Do you back the SPL's Financial Fair Play Proposals? Yes (4108) - 36.42% No (7170) - 63.58% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 We have emailed a statement to SPL football club trusts asking them to encourage supporters of their clubs to complete the survey. We appreciate your support so far however we need a push to regain momentum and to encourage those who havent responded to do so before the end of this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 We have emailed a statement to SPL football club trusts asking them to encourage supporters of their clubs to complete the survey. You could perhaps also ask the National Federation of Supporters Clubs (I think that's their name) to circulate it to the individual Clubs supporters Associations/Federations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Now over 12,000 responses to the survey appreciate the support. Can you get the meesage out to colleagues etc that we need their responses to help get our voice heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Now over 12,000 responses to the survey appreciate the support. Can you get the meesage out to colleagues etc that we need their responses to help get our voice heard. Take a minute to post a link to http://www.splsurvey.co.uk to your facebook or twitter page or text it to all your phone contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Posted this on our Twitter before: ABERDEEN: 97% NO to Newco // 66% wouldn?t return & 24% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk CELTIC: 98% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 73% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNDEE UTD: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 27% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNFERMLINE: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 49% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HEARTS: 97% NO to Newco // 46% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 41% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HIBERNIAN: 98% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 56% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk INVERNESS CT: 93% NO to Newco // 55% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 60% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk KILMARNOCK: 95% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk MOTHERWELL: 92% NO to Newco // 61% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 69% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk RANGERS: 35% NO to Newco // 22% wouldn?t return & 3% would boycott Newco fixtures // 76% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST JOHNSTONE: 96% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 32% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST MIRREN: 96% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 59% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk SPL & SFL (excluding OF): 96% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 30% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Posted this on our Twitter before: ABERDEEN: 97% NO to Newco // 66% wouldn?t return & 24% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk CELTIC: 98% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 73% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNDEE UTD: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 27% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNFERMLINE: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 49% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HEARTS: 97% NO to Newco // 46% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 41% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HIBERNIAN: 98% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 56% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk INVERNESS CT: 93% NO to Newco // 55% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 60% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk KILMARNOCK: 95% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk MOTHERWELL: 92% NO to Newco // 61% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 69% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk RANGERS: 35% NO to Newco // 22% wouldn?t return & 3% would boycott Newco fixtures // 76% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST JOHNSTONE: 96% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 32% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST MIRREN: 96% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 59% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk SPL & SPL (excluding OF): 96% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 30% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk Damning Would love to hear Hugh Keevins' views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Posted this on our Twitter before: ABERDEEN: 97% NO to Newco // 66% wouldn?t return & 24% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk CELTIC: 98% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 73% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNDEE UTD: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 27% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk DUNFERMLINE: 97% NO to Newco // 62% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 49% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HEARTS: 97% NO to Newco // 46% wouldn?t return & 36% would boycott Newco fixtures // 41% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk HIBERNIAN: 98% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 56% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk INVERNESS CT: 93% NO to Newco // 55% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 60% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk KILMARNOCK: 95% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 33% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk MOTHERWELL: 92% NO to Newco // 61% wouldn?t return & 25% would boycott Newco fixtures // 69% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk RANGERS: 35% NO to Newco // 22% wouldn?t return & 3% would boycott Newco fixtures // 76% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST JOHNSTONE: 96% NO to Newco // 56% wouldn?t return & 32% would boycott Newco fixtures // 57% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk ST MIRREN: 96% NO to Newco // 54% wouldn?t return & 35% would boycott Newco fixtures // 59% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk SPL & SFL (excluding OF): 96% NO to Newco // 53% wouldn?t return & 30% would boycott Newco fixtures // 54% NO to FFP -- www.splsurvey.co.uk That's a stunning set of results. I can't see how the clubs can ignore this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Damning Would love to hear Hugh Keevins' views I have just received a call from Jim Spence asking me to take part in a discussion about the survey on BBC Sportsound tonight between 1830 & 1900 with Chick Young & Gerry Hassan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I have just received a call from Jim Spence asking me to take part in a discussion about the survey on BBC Sportsound tonight between 1830 & 1900 with Chick Young & Gerry Hassan. I recall on Sportsound that Dodds asked you if there is any point (so to speak) as fans have been ignored on other issues in the past, if they try that hand again you should tell them that this time there is a big difference as, unlike last time, fans are clearly saying they will not attend future games, never before has a body of opinion from the fans made such a statement. It has no likeness to fans wanting a bigger league, which was mentioned in the McLeish Report, yet fans were ignored but never in the past have we said, 'give us this league set-up or we will not go to any games' I can just see Chick Young playing this card tonight that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I have just received a call from Jim Spence asking me to take part in a discussion about the survey on BBC Sportsound tonight between 1830 & 1900 with Chick Young & Gerry Hassan. Give the ***** hell SJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I have just received a call from Jim Spence asking me to take part in a discussion about the survey on BBC Sportsound tonight between 1830 & 1900 with Chick Young & Gerry Hassan. Great stuff I hope it goes well. Say hello to Chick from kickback Out of 11,993 responses are you able to show us the percentage share of the total for each spl club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Great stuff I hope it goes well. Say hello to Chick from kickback Out of 11,993 responses are you able to show us the percentage share of the total for each spl club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Keep calling Chick, Chuck. He'll love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radge21 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Guy got about 4 mins tonight on Sportsound and had a couple of stumbles over the numbers. Spence-y said they'd speak to him again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Mc Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Bump. Done and confirmed this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Bump. Done and confirmed this time round. Here are the latest results as of 10:20, Thursday 19th April 2012 This page will be updated at least twice daily. There have been a total of 12838 responses. If Rangers are liquidated and reformed as a Newco, should they be allowed immediate re-entry into the SPL? No (12293) - 95.75% Yes (545) - 4.25% In the event of a Rangers Newco being allowed immediate re-entry how, as a supporter of another SPL/SFL club would you respond? I would continue to attend SPL fixtures as normal (1512) - 11.78% I would NOT attend any SPL fixtures at all (6734) - 52.45% I would continue to attend SPL fixtures but boycott any fixtures involving the Rangers Newco (4148) - 32.31% I support an SFL team so don't attend any SPL fixtures (444) - 3.46% Do you back the SPL's Financial Fair Play Proposals? Yes (4808) - 37.45% No (8030) - 62.55% Need more votes! Keep telling people and emailing [email protected]! Now would be a good time to email them, Jim White presenting the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Nice little article in the courier about the survey. http://www.thecourie...rs-and-spl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Nice little article in the courier about the survey. http://www.thecourie...rs-and-spl.html http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Sport/Football/article/22268/online-fan-survey-delivers-newco-warning-for-rangers-and-spl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Here are the latest results as of 10:20, Thursday 19th April 2012 This page will be updated at least twice daily. There have been a total of 12838 responses. If Rangers are liquidated and reformed as a Newco, should they be allowed immediate re-entry into the SPL? No (12293) - 95.75% Yes (545) - 4.25% In the event of a Rangers Newco being allowed immediate re-entry how, as a supporter of another SPL/SFL club would you respond? I would continue to attend SPL fixtures as normal (1512) - 11.78% I would NOT attend any SPL fixtures at all (6734) - 52.45% I would continue to attend SPL fixtures but boycott any fixtures involving the Rangers Newco (4148) - 32.31% I support an SFL team so don't attend any SPL fixtures (444) - 3.46% Do you back the SPL's Financial Fair Play Proposals? Yes (4808) - 37.45% No (8030) - 62.55% Need more votes! Keep telling people and emailing [email protected]! Now would be a good time to email them, Jim White presenting the show. The most important stats are the ones where supporters are saying they would NOT attend any games if a Newco was allowed straight back in. I am sure it will be argued that, if push comes to shove, very few would take a refund on their season tickets and I doubt it would stop many from attending home games against a newco rangers. However, the SPL should take note that the message is one of open hostility to any prospect of a Newco being allowed in and, by allowing this to happen, it would open the floodgates for seasons of dissent from clubs and supporters alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseJam Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The most important stats are the ones where supporters are saying they would NOT attend any games if a Newco was allowed straight back in. I am sure it will be argued that, if push comes to shove, very few would take a refund on their season tickets and I doubt it would stop many from attending home games against a newco rangers. However, the SPL should take note that the message is one of open hostility to any prospect of a Newco being allowed in and, by allowing this to happen, it would open the floodgates for seasons of dissent from clubs and supporters alike. Lets just say indications are that someone is listening. Can't say much more for now but lets just imagine the guy who started this got a wee invite to Hampden to sit down with the bigwigs what questions should he be asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Lets just say indications are that someone is listening. Can't say much more for now but lets just imagine the guy who started this got a wee invite to Hampden to sit down with the bigwigs what questions should he be asking. Nice one Totally behind this survey and voted with the majority. Just wondering how it will be received by those that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Missed this before, but have now completed survey, e-mailed it, Facebooked it, tweeted it etc. Good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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