Meadows Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Absolutely Are you saying I'm thick ?? :-/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Malinga jesus a bit angry in your posting style no ?. FF thanks as always with any insight, your opinion is as valid as any and you definitely cover more than most of us by interpreting the info out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I for one hope football first continues to give us his insight and thoughts on all things Sevco , it makes life easier for the hard of understanding like myself .Totally agree. I did wonder about Malinga's question to him but it was not insulting and FF answered well.Healthy that nobody is beyond question, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Malinga jesus a bit angry in your posting style no ?. FF thanks as always with any insight, your opinion is as valid as any and you definitely cover more than most of us by interpreting the info out there. Didn't mean to come over as angry, just inquisitive as to FF's background. He, presume it is a he, answered honestly and that was good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledfan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I have a degree that includes accounting, Scots Law, and economics yet I wouldn't dare comment on a set of accounts such as those that have been produced by Sevco and King. The fact that no accountancy firm is willing, or has even been asked, to sign off these figures is a red flag and so is the fact that a convicted felon is running the whole show. These are not 'normal accounts' produced by a normal football club, they are accounts massaged and produced with caveats on virtually every line. The is a reason King was happy to be delisted and while having no NOMAD is held against King as a broken promise, which has it was, it is a situation that he is more than happy with as it allows him and his company to allow to operate without nearly as much restriction as they would see otherwise. Commenting on these accounts is a foolhardy exercise as nothing, absolutely nothing, can be taken at face value. What level of degree, Honours, first class, 2:1, 2:2, 3rd ? A layman can be just as educated as degree educated student, its all learnt from books after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 What level of degree, Honours, first class, 2:1, 2:2, 3rd ? A layman can be just as educated as degree educated student, its all learnt from books after all. Don't get hung up on it. I didn't take Malinga's post as confrontational. I just gave my interpretation as I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Don't get hung up on it. I didn't take Malinga's post as confrontational. I just gave my interpretation as I saw it. And I hope you continue to do so, which afterall your interpretation is much better than the vast majority of us on here could ever make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 What level of degree, Honours, first class, 2:1, 2:2, 3rd ? A layman can be just as educated as degree educated student, its all learnt from books after all. Pretty Fabulous degree that covers accounting, law AND economics in one. Bet he's got an absolutely fantastic job from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have a degree that includes accounting, Scots Law, and economics... Not another brick counter? I can agree that, with over 20 years working in Contract Law, I am flummoxed reading the last few pages of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Don't get hung up on it. I didn't take Malinga's post as confrontational. I just gave my interpretation as I saw it. I am considerate of your views FF, don't stop believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Pretty Fabulous degree that covers accounting, law AND economics in one. Bet he's got an absolutely fantastic job from it. It's quite common if you are doing an Accounting qualification to study Law and Economics as part of the Accounting qualification. They are actually some of the first exams that you do towards your qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 How did we get here? Debating the value or otherwise of people's qualifications ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) It's quite common if you are doing an Accounting qualification to study Law and Economics as part of the Accounting qualification. They are actually some of the first exams that you do towards your qualification. He gave the impression he had degree level expertise in all 3 fields but 'wouldn't dare' comment on the accounts, which struck me as a bit of a feckin waste of the diploma paper it was written on......lol Edited March 29, 2017 by CollyWolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 How did we get here? Debating the value or otherwise of people's qualifications ... Probably in the same way we debate the quality, or lack of it, from the bloggers you constantly link to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Do the last 20 posts mean that old Rangers were still cheating barstewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Do the last 20 posts mean that old Rangers were still cheating barstewards Yes, and I say that as someone with a degree that includes cheating, the judging thereof, and dodgy shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 He gave the impression he had degree level expertise in all 3 fields but 'wouldn't dare' comment on the accounts, which struck me as a bit of a feckin waste of the diploma paper it was written on......lol Why wouldn't you dare comment on historical records. Economics is known as the dismal science precisely because Economists are so bad at predicting the future. When the argument moves on so do the Economists. It is not as if anyone keeps a record of how many times they are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Yes, and I say that as someone with a degree that includes cheating, the judging thereof, and dodgy shenanigans. The thread has gone a bit off at a tangent and normally at this point a thread would die out but knowing Rangers, their fans and Dave King there will be another development to this tale just around the corner. This thread has plenty of time left to run. Edited March 29, 2017 by Diadora Van Basten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyjambo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Pretty Fabulous degree that covers accounting, law AND economics in one. Bet he's got an absolutely fantastic job from it. Institute of Bankers exams cover those subjects too, plus a few others Taxation, Foreign Business, Theory & practice of investment. At least they did in the 1970's - 1980's when I did mine. All so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 No more about qualifications paleeeeeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincon Premier Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 No more about qualifications paleeeeeze Damn. I was about to jump in with my qualifications. Certified motor mechanic, Ambulance technician, and I know how to use a broom. Oh and don't forget, an Edinburgh school's leavers certificate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Damn. I was about to jump in with my qualifications. Certified motor mechanic, Ambulance technician, and I know how to use a broom. Oh and don't forget, an Edinburgh school's leavers certificate! Oh you and your big city ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledfan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Damn. I was about to jump in with my qualifications. Certified motor mechanic, Ambulance technician, and I know how to use a broom. Oh and don't forget, an Edinburgh school's leavers certificate! I will raise you two CSE's and a Scotvec module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 No more about qualifications paleeeeeze Are you qualified to make such a bold statement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Slim Stylee Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 and I know how to use a broom. A must-have qualification for anyone of a Rangers persuasion.......for sweeping things under the carpet. I'll get ma coat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincon Premier Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) A must-have qualification for anyone of a Rangers persuasion.......for sweeping things under the carpet. I'll get ma coat..... Or trying to sweep snow of the lines. Should have stuck it out and played that game, positive we would have hammered them. Edited March 29, 2017 by Lincon Premier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I for one hope football first continues to give us his insight and thoughts on all things Sevco , it makes life easier for the hard of understanding like myself . I for one hope football first continues to give us his insight and thoughts on all things Sevco , it makes life easier for the hard of understanding like myself . I so agree...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I saw the 3 resignations , as they appear on a companies House screen, for the 27 march 2017...... Does that mean the 3 bears have left home....Leaving Goldilocks up to his neck in porridge....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 It's quite common if you are doing an Accounting qualification to study Law and Economics as part of the Accounting qualification. They are actually some of the first exams that you do towards your qualification. Yip. Quite a few professions cover them. Especially Scots law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Change of subject ; after Ferguson, Brown, Lovenkrands were all interviewed as assistant coach with others touted. Does anyone else think Murty is the obvious choice and the interviews are a waste of time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Change of subject ; after Ferguson, Brown, Lovenkrands were all interviewed as assistant coach with others touted. Does anyone else think Murty is the obvious choice and the interviews are a waste of time ? It may come down to what is the cheapest choice, rather than the best choice, or even the most obvious choice - as they're still trading at a loss, with no apparent strategy in place to resolve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Change of subject ; after Ferguson, Brown, Lovenkrands were all interviewed as assistant coach with others touted. Does anyone else think Murty is the obvious choice and the interviews are a waste of time ? Yes. He has the link between 1st XI and their academy. It's far too obvious a choice that they'll not make it. If they were to then I'd not be surprised if they gave Ferguson a job in the academy with an eye on PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If Ferguson gets a job with The Rangers will Clyde be entitled to claim for compensation or will they come to an agreement whereby his leaving was deemed coincidental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If Ferguson gets a job with The Rangers will Clyde be entitled to claim for compensation or will they come to an agreement whereby his leaving was deemed coincidental? A manager's quite entitled to resign if he fancies applying for another job, Clyde are due nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 A manager's quite entitled to resign if he fancies applying for another job, Clyde are due nothing Not if he's under contract and leaves without the agreement of the club. He would leave himself open to be sued for breach of contract, although in most cases the club he goes to will settle via some compensation arrangement with the old club. In Ferguson's case his contract was terminated by mutual agreement, so there will be no compensation involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Not if he's under contract and leaves without the agreement of the club. He would leave himself open to be sued for breach of contract, although in most cases the club he goes to will settle via some compensation arrangement with the old club. In Ferguson's case his contract was terminated by mutual agreement, so there will be no compensation involved. Would it not depend on the reasons for the mutual agreement. If Clyde feel misled in anyway, and feel that Barry joining Rangers goes against reasons for him perhaps wanting to leave, would they perhaps have a case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Would it not depend on the reasons for the mutual agreement. If Clyde feel misled in anyway, and feel that Barry joining Rangers goes against reasons for him perhaps wanting to leave, would they perhaps have a case? I think Clyde's results under Ferguson were reason enough for the club to want him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I think Clyde's results under Ferguson were reason enough for the club to want him to go. 3 points from 30 with the best squad in the division, The Crab exited sideways before he was cooked. Claw that one back i dare you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Not if he's under contract and leaves without the agreement of the club. He would leave himself open to be sued for breach of contract, although in most cases the club he goes to will settle via some compensation arrangement with the old club. In Ferguson's case his contract was terminated by mutual agreement, so there will be no compensation involved. Has there been any suggestion that he left without the agreement of the club? Can an employer even refuse a contractually correct resignation? Edited March 30, 2017 by Smithee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If a resignation mechanism is provided for within the contract then there is no issue, e.g. give three notice. However if a manager wishes to break his contract simply because he has the offer of a better job, then he can be held to the terms of the remainder of his contract. If the new club is that keen to bring him in, then that's generally when a compensation figure would be agreed between the two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If a resignation mechanism is provided for within the contract then there is no issue, e.g. give three notice. However if a manager wishes to break his contract simply because he has the offer of a better job, then he can be held to the terms of the remainder of his contract. If the new club is that keen to bring him in, then that's generally when a compensation figure would be agreed between the two clubs. Ok but this doesn't apply to Ferguson does it? Clyde agreed he could leave, he left, he's trying to get another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ferguson quote at time of resignation: ?This has been on my mind for a couple of weeks now and I feel it?s in the best interests of all parties. ?But I want to make it clear my decision has nothing whatsoever to do with the current situation at Rangers. It was purely about myself and Clyde.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ferguson quote at time of resignation: ?This has been on my mind for a couple of weeks now and I feel it?s in the best interests of all parties. ?But I want to make it clear my decision has nothing whatsoever to do with the current situation at Rangers. It was purely about myself and Clyde.? tbf he was whoring himself for the top job there and now is trying to sneak in the backdoor as assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The worst case scenario is that barry does not get the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackford Hearts Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I suppose if he gets the job then his comments prove he's a perfect fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I suppose if he gets the job then his comments prove he's a perfect fit! TIT FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 "Rangers boss Pedro Caixinha pulls off tactical masterstroke to show he's polar opposite to one-trick Warburton" Daily Record - extraordinary nonsense, considering, Warbs beat Motherwell 2-1 - twice. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-boss-pedro-caixinha-pulls-10148443 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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