Diadora Van Basten Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I would imagine that the point of law would be whether the procurator fiscal would counts as a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm not (sadly) I posted on the day of the case he was screwed as he sent in a lawyer against a QC, Judge will rarely rule against QC in favour of a plain old lawyer. Just the way it works, schoolboy error by chuckles. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It's a pity that the full judgement won't be released until after the criminal case. I was hoping to see some comment about the OC/NC argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Very surprised by that decision. The only thing I suspect made the court come to this decision is its a criminal case against Green. eg: smash your car whilst drunk and your insurance is null and void. More like beating Ally McCoist to death in the Trophy Room with a candle stick, would be covered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Lawyers for Green cited clause 8.3 of a ?Without Prejudice Compromise Agreement? between Green and Rangers as justification for the club paying his legal costs against the will of the club. The clause read: ?The Company [Rangers] will pay any reasonable professional (including, without limitation, legal and accounting) costs and expenses properly incurred by the Employee [Green] after the date of this Agreement which arise from having to defend, or appear in, any administrative, regulatory, judicial or quasi-judicial proceedings by a third party as a result of his having been Chief Executive of The Rangers Football Club or the Company.? However, Lord Doherty decided the clause did not mean Rangers were obliged to pay the fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn5 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Can Chuckles appeal or go down a different road or is this as dead as old Gers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Can Chuckles appeal or go down a different road or is this as dead as old Gers? I would think he can. Although it was a different jurisdiction, Andy Coulson successfully appealed his legal fee decision. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/28/news-international-andy-coulson-legal-fees Coincidentally, it was the same lawyer who drew up both Coulson's and Green's compromise agreements. The wording is almost identical. Here was Coulson's "to the extent that it is lawfully able to do so, [News Group] will pay any reasonable professional (including, without limitation, legal and accounting) costs and expenses properly incurred by [Mr Coulson] after the Termination Date which arise from his having to defend, or appear in, any administrative, regulatory, judicial or quasi-judicial proceedings as a result of his having been Editor of the News of the World." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn5 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Cheers FF, here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Clancy Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I would think he can. Although it was a different jurisdiction, Andy Coulson successfully appealed his legal fee decision. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/28/news-international-andy-coulson-legal-fees Coincidentally, it was the same lawyer who drew up both Coulson's and Green's compromise agreements. The wording is almost identical. Here was Coulson's "to the extent that it is lawfully able to do so, [News Group] will pay any reasonable professional (including, without limitation, legal and accounting) costs and expenses properly incurred by [Mr Coulson] after the Termination Date which arise from his having to defend, or appear in, any administrative, regulatory, judicial or quasi-judicial proceedings as a result of his having been Editor of the News of the World." I think the significant difference here is that Coulson was covered because the offences occurred when he was employed by the NOW, whereas Charlie's alleged wrongdoings predated his appointment and the date of the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggersBroom Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Morally this is a good thing. The fact it benefits Rangers is not important. This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Don't you dare come on here and lecture any Hearts man about morals and principles. Your club has lacked both these qualities since you were founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 When green losses this case hopefully the assets are seized & are sold off to pay the creditors. This is where Ashley could pull off a master stroke by buying them up & making sevco pay an eye watering rent. Imagine the Hun pain if they don't own their own stadium & have to rent it from Ashley. [emoji23] . Now that would be as funny as greengingers family tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think the significant difference here is that Coulson was covered because the offences occurred when he was employed by the NOW, whereas Charlie's alleged wrongdoings predated his appointment and the date of the agreement. Some of the details from the charge sheet (which can be disclosed) related to the period leading up to the IPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledfan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think there may be a conflict in the wording, Charlie used SEVCO as vessel to buy the assets etc. But the indemnity lies when he was in charge of "The Rangers". But without SEVCO there is no Rangers and vice versa. Also it has all been pointed out previously, SEVCO still pay wages, employ managers etc. Any good QC on appeal should be able to point out that they are one in the same. Maybe I am miles of with my assumptions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swavkav Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Is this for real?, your club has flouted & cheated it's way to EBT tainted titles, constantly talks pony of our Scottish game, Constantly gives the we need to move to England talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Oh look, it's the monthly TriggersBroom ritual of delusional repeating of mistruths, inferring our dislike of Rangers is rooted in bigotry and being annihilated by FF before disappearing without a response. See you in December! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Here are a couple of extracts from the charge sheet courtesy of the Daily Record's account of the opening proceedings at the High Court. ?He is accused of conducting a fraudulent initial pubic offering by which substantial equity capital was raised." ?The defender and/or Sevco Scotland received the fruits of that conduct in the form of the acquisition of the business and assets of Rangers and the funds raised by means of the initial public offering.? Edited November 26, 2015 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the North Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Your opinion, eh? I'd love to know how much you imagine that is worth, on this forum and on this thread? The right answer is very very close to absolutely feck all. Still, you bash on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Your opinion, eh? I'd love to know how much you imagine that is worth, on this forum and on this thread? The right answer is very very close to absolutely feck all. Still, you bash on... Trigger is that stupid he still believes the Glib and Shameless one is still going to invest his own cash,he will be crying in a puddle of wee wee when the light finally breaks through,none but the blind now but the blind eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I thought it was a done deal the way people were talking on here about how Green's QC had roasted the huns. Did the QC not prove the payment for legal fees were in Green's contract? LNS mk II? Just because people speculate on here does not mean it is going to come true.................it's often posters wishes most of the time not fact despite what we are told/intimated. A small part of Xmas cheer is going to have to be cancelled for some on here. Still only another 101 court cases till Christmas and lets hope the real truth re the takeover comes out in the criminal proceedings to come. Then the action/focus will move to the current position at the club re control, funding and the way ahead (all of which may be impacted upon what comes out of the criminal court cases pending) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here are a couple of extracts from the charge sheet courtesy of the Daily Record's account of the opening proceedings at the High Court. ?He is accused of conducting a fraudulent initial pubic offering by which substantial equity capital was raised." ?The defender and/or Sevco Scotland received the fruits of that conduct in the form of the acquisition of the business and assets of Rangers and the funds raised by means of the initial public offering.? So if that charge was proven, wouldn't the purchase of the car park and Edmiston House have been made using the proceeds of fraud and have to be returned to their original owner? Big Mike won't like that if that's proven as what happens to his security on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And he's not praying Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. I think most people on here have maintained and continue to maintain their principles over Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think most people on here have maintained and continue to maintain their principles over Rangers. As a latecomer I'd like to point out that I despise them, and that I will be maintaining these principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledfan Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. So where do your morals and principals lie now that Rangers have been proven to have cheated their way to titles and cups ? Most fans don't give a rats arse about Rangers but that does not mean they should be just allowed to get away it. Most peoples morals lie in the wanting of a fair and level playing field when it comes to sporting integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harko Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Who gives a monkeys chunky what you or your fellow deadco fans think? Nobody here does. You and your fellow zombie fans have shown zero remorse for your actions and will rightly be adjudged by all fans of football & sportmanship to be the filthy cheating bigots that you are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 So where do your morals and principals lie now that Rangers have been proven to have cheated their way to titles and cups ? Most fans don't give a rats arse about Rangers but that does not mean they should be just allowed to get away it. Most peoples morals lie in the wanting of a fair and level playing field when it comes to sporting integrity. I have always found Rangers to be a vile and horrible institution. I have always held the majority of their fans with equally low regard. I have no concerns over my morals or principles. If they were to die again, I would not shed a tear. Sadly, there is no chance of their twin joining them. That would be heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He didn't use a QC, Sevco did, he used a lawyer Hadn't realised that. Probably not the best move by chuckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here are a couple of extracts from the charge sheet courtesy of the Daily Record's account of the opening proceedings at the High Court. ?He is accused of conducting a fraudulent initial pubic offering by which substantial equity capital was raised." ?The defender and/or Sevco Scotland received the fruits of that conduct in the form of the acquisition of the business and assets of Rangers and the funds raised by means of the initial public offering.? FF If it's not going to cause a problem with the Mods or legal eagles : what was fraudulent about the IPO ? Allegedly. If I'm on shaky ground then please disregard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hadn't realised that. Probably not the best move by chuckles. I suspect he might stretch to the cost of a QC for his appeal. Maybe thought his contract was water tight so didn't want to waste money (he is a tight-fisted Yorkshire man after all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 FF If it's not going to cause a problem with the Mods or legal eagles : what was fraudulent about the IPO ? Allegedly. If I'm on shaky ground then please disregard. Without sight of the Charge Sheet I can't recall what the specifics of the illegality was. All the press release said was "The eighth charge alleges that between March 1, 2012 and December 30, 2013, at Ibrox, Mr Green obtained ?material benefit and a quantity of shares and money by fraud.? I am completely speculating here, but the IPO prospectus may have contained inaccurate statements or omitted relevant key information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 A QC at what is it? ?1000 an hour, hope it lasts for some weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Without sight of the Charge Sheet I can't recall what the specifics of the illegality was. All the press release said was "The eighth charge alleges that between March 1, 2012 and December 30, 2013, at Ibrox, Mr Green obtained ?material benefit and a quantity of shares and money by fraud.? I am completely speculating here, but the IPO prospectus may have contained inaccurate statements or omitted relevant key information. Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Good post.Agreed.If lies and fiction are what are now to be seen as good posts on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Who gives a monkeys chunky what you or your fellow deadco fans think? Nobody here does. You and your fellow zombie fans have shown zero remorse for your actions and will rightly be adjudged by all fans of football & sportmanship to be the filthy cheating bigots that you are!!! As Basil Brush would say BOOM BOOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. This with bells on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. This has to be up there as one of the best statement ever. Can we have part 2 please Sir. Bravo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Post of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here are a couple of extracts from the charge sheet courtesy of the Daily Record's account of the opening proceedings at the High Court. ?He is accused of conducting a fraudulent initial pubic offering by which substantial equity capital was raised." ?The defender and/or Sevco Scotland received the fruits of that conduct in the form of the acquisition of the business and assets of Rangers and the funds raised by means of the initial public offering.? Fraudulent pubic offering? c#cked it up, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. I agree with much of this. There aren't many forums for Hearts fans but this one tends to reflect my feelings about Rangers. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. come on malinga no need to sugar coat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) There isn't an original thought from the rangers fans who post on here. It is things they've read on their forums and blogs that they pinch, try it out here and then see it rubbished effortlessly when it's not their own that are discussing it. Edited November 26, 2015 by Riccarton3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Bit harsh on Cowdenbeath, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Don't you dare come on here and lecture any Hearts man about morals and principles. Your club has lacked both these qualities since you were founded. Indeed - both old club and new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Believer Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) This. Unfortunately, when it comes to Rangers many opposing fan's morals and principles go out the window. It's like a Human Rights campaigner who is active against capital punishment demanding the capture, torture and hanging of a dictator. You have to stick to your principles otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously or respected, in my opinion. You are quite right trigger, but here is the problem.... Any right thinking, objective human, who is prepared to take a sensible view will immediately conclude that Rangers cheated their tax, that they failed to correctly register players and that that they gained an unfair advantage over other clubs because of that. So while you might very well like fans to take a moral and principled view of the matter, that would result in Green not receiving his legal fees and Rangers losing their trophies. Are you OK with that? Because we are. Edited November 27, 2015 by Daydream Believer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bell Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why don't you just **** *** back to the Bears Den or Follow Follow where you and your fellow Neanderthals can pontificate about hard done to the deceased club known as Rangers have been. Once you face up , apologise for cheating all of Scottish football, including Celtic, during the EBT and the side letter years, you can come back on here and talk about principles. You support a newly created club that was unfairly allowed into Division 3 at the expense of properly funded and run clubs because you and your knuckle dragging sidekicks failed to save your club from dying. Since then, you have welcomed White, Green, Ashley and then King as conquering heroes who would get this new club back to some place that you believe you are entightled to, but as at present, have failed to earn. Each one in turn has then lost the backing of your support because they have failed to deliver the fabled 'war chest' that each new owner of Rangers must have and promise. You don't want to be a normal club; you instead yearn for the days of Gascoigne, Laudrup etc as if you have a divine right to win titles and enter Europe, just because you are Protestants from Govan. I detest your club and what it stands for, I detest your support for not facing up to what they are and what they believe, I detest your sycophantic relationship with the Scottish media, I detest every little thing about your poxy club and if there was any justice, there would be no club called Rangers, Sevco or anything in blue playing football in Scotland ever again. Brilliant Post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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