Angus Young Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The JJB deal with Rangers may well have influenced Mike Ashley to set up the current Rangers Retail operation as it is, primarily as a method of extracting the value of the contract that was lost when first Rangers, then JJB itself, went bust. JJB signed the 10 year deal with Rangers in 2006, with an ?18M up front payment and a royalty payment of ?3M per annum for the next 10 years. Rangers went bust in Feb 2012, leaving JJB with almost half the contract unfulfilled, despite having handed over more than two thirds of the cash. JJB itself was in financial difficulty and went into administration in September 2012. Sports Direct purchased part of the failed business' assets, including 20 stores and the JJB brand in October 2012. When did Mike Ashley actually buy into TRFC? Yes you've guessed it, October 2012. Now I'm sure that the TRFC deal wasn't key to SD buying the JJB assets, but I'm sure his accountants will have looked at JJB's assets (including the outstanding years of the deal with the Oldco that were lost with its liquidation) and agreed to invest in the Newco only if Charles Green would agree to Rangers Retail and the various product licences being set up in Ashley favour. this is all very confusing we need that phil guy with the strange second name to sort this out and lay it out in simpletons talk like he always does, i guess as he is a simpleton then it is easy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Wigan link clear and proven then. Ashley not getting credit but I still question Charles Green and whether he was overly generous? What were Green's links to Ashley. Did they work together against Rangers interests in making the retail deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Are rangers using the terry butcher/yogi inverness caley style scatter gun approach to signing potential from down south? Not sure any of the signings will have made the hoards sit up and take notice. Oh and for the avoidance of doubt "They let their club die" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers to bid for Scotty Xavi Allan http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-lining-up-bid-for-hibs-scott-allan-1-3836332 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers to bid for Scotty Chavy Allan http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-lining-up-bid-for-hibs-scott-allan-1-3836332 FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers to bid for Scotty Xavi Allan http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-lining-up-bid-for-hibs-scott-allan-1-3836332 Hibs.net view.... spike220 Testimonial Due Join Date Jan 2011 Posts 2,082 If SA was to go? I cant see SA going for anything less than 3.5m. Given the importance to Hibs this season. If we get promoted and he was to sign for longer and we developed him and he proves himself further, I think we would be looking for 6-8m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcalford Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Hibs.net view.... spike220 Testimonial Due Join Date Jan 2011 Posts 2,082 If SA was to go? I cant see SA going for anything less than 3.5m. Given the importance to Hibs this season. If we get promoted and he was to sign for longer and we developed him and he proves himself further, I think we would be looking for 6-8m for him. Haha seen this myself when having a wee look at .net, talk about deluded, hope Rangers bid ?500,000 for him just to p*ss them off. Edited July 21, 2015 by Mcalford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 3.5 million what? Albanian Lek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Haha seen this myself when having a wee look at .net, talk about deluded, hope Rangers bid ?500,000 for him just to p*ss them off. Rod will be counting the shekels already. If Rangers make any offer near 500k they will sell. The seethe will be huge though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Where is the 500k coming from? They will need to sort out their share offering ASAP to fund the "over investment" that Lying Dave promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers to bid for Scotty Xavi Allan http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-lining-up-bid-for-hibs-scott-allan-1-3836332 It's almost as if Hibs were playing Rangers this weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I am suprised at the EN for running with this story. Its more akin to a redtop type sell papers headline. I for one dont believe it to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ?3.5 mill for a player who played in a team that failed to get promoted from the second tier in Scottish Football, and scored something like one goal in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiepolio Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Finally time to close this thread down????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Finally time to close this thread down????? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hibs.net view.... spike220 Testimonial Due Join Date Jan 2011 Posts 2,082 If SA was to go? I cant see SA going for anything less than 3.5m. Given the importance to Hibs this season. If we get promoted and he was to sign for longer and we developed him and he proves himself further, I think we would be looking for 6-8m for him. That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read! As an aside, it's absolutely wonderful that they allow these people into the community and show them how to post on the internet at the local library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Finally time to close this thread down????? When Dave King came in he explained that they may have to 'over invest' this close season, in a bid to ensure automatic promotion. Have you seen their signings so far? If this is King 'over investing', then I'd suggest something is fundamentally wrong at Ibrox. For that reason alone, this thread should stay open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Finally time to close this thread down????? No way. It's got to reach page 1690 at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank skinner Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Was there not mention of a 500.000 release clause in his contract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The EEN doing the weedgie press bidding for them. No way Hibs will sell to Sevco. They might do to another team but I doubt even that. To be entirely honest unless they have an immediate bill to pay Hibs, rightly, should risk the 'leave for nothing' scenario as opposed to weaken themselves and face an indefinite period of time in the 2nd division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 So ?1m for Stevie May ?500,000 starting bid for Scott Allen . Sounds like red top nonsense . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Today's sun ran a piece linking them. The meltdown by hibs fans if they did the unthinkable & actually sold him to them would be glorious though. [emoji23] Not even Petrie is that stupid, although the seethe would be hilarious. I wonder if this will trigger a bit of a bidding war though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ?3.5 million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Today's sun ran a piece linking them. The meltdown by hibs fans if they did the unthinkable & actually sold him to them would be glorious though. [emoji23] They will be storming the breeze block towers demanding a refund on the few season tickets they've managed to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 When Dave King came in he explained that they may have to 'over invest' this close season, in a bid to ensure automatic promotion. Have you seen their signings so far? If this is King 'over investing', then I'd suggest something is fundamentally wrong at Ibrox. For that reason alone, this thread should stay open. TBH there's no reason any thread should be shut down unless it's getting out of control or is legally dodgy for some reason. If you lose interest in a thread, just stop opening it - don't demand censorship to suit your tastes, censor yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHearts Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Selling Allan is inevitable. It is Petrie's way of punishing the supporters for buying season tickets in such... inadequate numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ?3.5 million for him. Anything over 2 million for a non Celtic player is unlikely. If I were Hibs i would not sell for even that. I dont know how good Allen is, but if the hype is to be believe, then selling him gives Rangers the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 TBH there's no reason any thread should be shut down unless it's getting out of control or is legally dodgy for some reason. If you lose interest in a thread, just stop opening it - don't demand censorship to suit your tastes, censor yourself! ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If true same old story, you try to build a side in Scotland and one of the 2 erse cheeks starts to sniff around, hubz were on the cusp of utter greatness and now this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If true same old story, you try to build a side in Scotland and one of the 2 erse cheeks starts to sniff around, hubz were on the cusp of utter greatness and now this..... This was their year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Anything over 2 million for a non Celtic player is unlikely. If I were Hibs i would not sell for even that. I dont know how good Allen is, but if the hype is to be believe, then selling him gives Rangers the league. Not sure about that given Hibs and Allan were 21 points behind us last season and Hibs finished above Rangers. Edited July 21, 2015 by Rudolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If the vermin sell the most overrated player in the country to sevco they can kiss any chance of making it to the Premier league goodbye. It shows their wee team small minded attitude by selling him to a league rival. Rod must be rubbing his hands at the thought of another few thousand winging its way into his bank account though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 What's latest with Holt, is he still training with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ?3.5M for Allan or Rangers bidding ?500k ... I can't decide which is more ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 That line in the Scum article "Ibrox directors will not take no for an answer"! Absolutely reeks of Level 5. Will they take no for an answer if Hibs demand ?1m? What about ?1.5m? ?2m? The same old pish from the MSM as Sevco try and bulldoze their way around Scottish football like the good old days, laughable. Try and suggest that Hibs will submit to Rangers advances so that they eventually fold. Next it will be stories of Allan demanding to leave etc. It's exceptionally insulting. Don't get me wrong, it's Hibs so I don't really care but if this were Hearts the Scum would still have written the same. It's as if Rangers never died... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 That line in the Scum article "Ibrox directors will not take no for an answer"! Absolutely reeks of Level 5. Will they take no for an answer if Hibs demand ?1m? What about ?1.5m? ?2m? The same old pish from the MSM as Sevco try and bulldoze their way around Scottish football like the good old days, laughable. Try and suggest that Hibs will submit to Rangers advances so that they eventually fold. Next it will be stories of Allan demanding to leave etc. It's exceptionally insulting. Don't get me wrong, it's Hibs so I don't really care but if this were Hearts the Scum would still have written the same. It's as if Rangers never died... Correct. It will not be them who decides. It will be Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 They will be storming the breeze block towers demanding a refund on the few season tickets they've managed to sell. Where's the picture of the wee glaikit hobo waving his season ticket card at one of more recent pathetic attempts at a protest when you need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 New tea at ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 What's latest with Holt, is he still training with them? Discussing with Hearts Development Fee of around ?70k apparently - CASH UP FRONT, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Burnley are Evens to beat rangers tonight, just throwing it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers: Foderingham, Tavernier, Kiernan, Wilson, Wallace; Halliday, Law, Holt, Mckay; Templeton, Waghorn Subs: Kelly, Zaliukas, McGregor, Walsh, Aird, Shiels, Clark, Miller,Thompson, Hardie Rangers team versus Burnley. Holt starts.... whats our opinion of there squad building??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Rangers: Foderingham, Tavernier, Kiernan, Wilson, Wallace; Halliday, Law, Holt, Mckay; Templeton, Waghorn Subs: Kelly, Zaliukas, McGregor, Walsh, Aird, Shiels, Clark, Miller,Thompson, Hardie Rangers team versus Burnley. Holt starts.... whats our opinion of there squad building??? Impossible to say, I don't know any of their new players except Wilson Let's face it though, they don't need to be world beaters, they just need to be better than Hibs Edited July 21, 2015 by Smithee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Have they actually signed they new boys and holt? I've not paid any attention to them or this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Discussing with Hearts Development Fee of around ?70k apparently - CASH UP FRONT, I hope. Would have been hoping for more than that just on the basis of th charlie telfer transfer. Why wouldn't Hearts let a tribunal decide given the precedents set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Would have been hoping for more than that just on the basis of th charlie telfer transfer. Why wouldn't Hearts let a tribunal decide given the precedents set? I assume because we want a positive reputation in the eyes of the best young players in the country. A sprat to catch a mackerel, so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdannyb Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Rangers team versus Burnley. Holt starts.... whats our opinion of there squad building??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I assume because we want a positive reputation in the eyes of the best young players in the country. A sprat to catch a mackerel, so to speak I understand what you are saying but those players must also see what benefits they've had from Hearts in their development, which is what the fee is based on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Their match thread for the Burnley friendly is funny as ****. They are raving about how amazing they look for about 4 pages. Danny Wilson looks phenomenal along with all the other signings. Burnley score. Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstandjambo Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Burnley win 1-0 Hibs draw 0-0 at Ayr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Finished 1:0 Burnley.. Looks like Wilson has lost his man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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