Deevers Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 A warrant apparently now issued by the Crown Office for the arrest of Craig Whyte according to the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The news has had no real dramatic affect on the share price. Late on a Friday afternoon, nothing much happening, lets see what it's like during next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 A warrant apparently now issued by the Crown Office for the arrest of Craig Whyte according to the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) presuming this doesnt scupper whatever it is ashley is trying to do, he can play all this to his advantage by presenting himself as the saviour in turbulent times. still, popcorn time for us watching the shady conmen who flogged a dead football club get their comeuppance. Hopefully Whyte shits it and starts talking. Edited November 14, 2014 by 2NaFish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 presuming this doesnt scupper whatever it is ashley is trying to do, he can play all this to his advantage by presenting himself as the saviour in turbulent times. still, popcorn time for us watching the shady conmen who flogged a dead football club get their comeuppance. Hopefully Whyte shits it and starts talking. Wonder what will happen if the trail of people being art and part of all of this leads to Chuck and then onwards to other associates of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Can anyone predict the "End-Game" in this saga? More twists and turns than a game of snakes and ladders, but no doubt more revelations yet. Glad that the old bill have finally got involved but can only assume someone felt it necessary for them to do so in the first place? Is this the defining moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 What happened to the bloke who was arrested a week or so ago for leaking information out of Ibrox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Greens purchase with the help of D and F could be evolved in this. If so then that might have a knock on effect. Or have I got that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 presuming this doesnt scupper whatever it is ashley is trying to do, he can play all this to his advantage by presenting himself as the saviour in turbulent times. still, popcorn time for us watching the shady conmen who flogged a dead football club get their comeuppance. Hopefully Whyte shits it and starts talking. Or gets the tape recorder out, now that would make interesting listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durham Jambo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 BBC saying the arrests are for the crime of 'utterance'. Signing legal documents while pretending you are someone you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Greens purchase with the help of D and F could be evolved in this. If so then that might have a knock on effect. Or have I got that wrong? Yes I think you meant involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It doesn't sound to me that these arrests will have any affect on Rangers whatsoever. During the whole saga nothing has stuck to Rangers mainly because the authorities are worried about the Rangers fans reactions. Meanwhile anyone involved in this saga but no longer involved with Rangers seems to be fair game for the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 As David Murray sits there with his cat purring away thinking he's gotten away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 If these arrests are to do with falsified documentation then any transaction must be nul and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 So, will they die again? Sound's more like were they even re-born? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Think we need ChickP (or whatever he's called) to come along and confirm what the ramifications of this is. I'd have thought that if found guilty of wrong doing with creditors being stiffed, that it could affect newco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yes I think you meant involved. I did. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Think we need ChickP (or whatever he's called) to come along and confirm what the ramifications of this is. I'd have thought that if found guilty of wrong doing with creditors being stiffed, that it could affect newco. ChickP = she Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Dont think this will have any adverse reaction for the newco Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Think we need ChickP (or whatever he's called) to come along and confirm what the ramifications of this is. I'd have thought that if found guilty of wrong doing with creditors being stiffed, that it could affect newco. I believe he's called Paula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 If Green is connected to this investigation & can't prove "deed of Novation" then it'll get interesting with sevco & the Sfa. Imagine they collar whyte & he cuts a deal to spill the beans on Green & D&P etc. there's no telling where this investigation will lead & a lot of people will be very worried tonight at what might surface under questioning. Or what's on tape. Remember Whyte recorded a lot of meetings, now I wonder why that was? Perhaps incase this day came around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ChickP = she I believe he's called Paula. You'd have thought it would have been obvious ChickP you have my sincerest apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyjambo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 And to think out Scottish Court Service told us there was nothing to see here during the whole process. Sorry to disappoint you, the Scottish Court Service does not (as a body) pronounce on matters. It is either counsel for the prosecution ( crown or procurator fiscals office) the defence or the sitting Judge or Sheriff dependent on which court is sitting. The SCS merely provide the physical locations, staff & facilities (eg officials & juries) to enable roceedings to be carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skivingatwork Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Waiting on the Keith Jackson exclusive citing impending doom and nuclear winters brought about by the SFO daring to open the Sevco Pandora's box. The end is nigh I tells ya! Board up your windows, stock up on provisions, the Sevco zombies will be on the warpath with pitchforks alit. Won't someone please just give super salary his ?30m warchest that we might get back to helicopter Sundays that everyone in Scotland knows and loves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Whyte is sunning himself LA apparently. Extradition from the USA is never easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Rangers fans have suffered enough. have you seen their team play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Think we need ChickP (or whatever he's called) to come along and confirm what the ramifications of this is. I'd have thought that if found guilty of wrong doing with creditors being stiffed, that it could affect newco. sadly she's moved on so i'm not sure she'll be able to tell us anything more than we already know. would love to have been a fly on a few different walls this morning though i tell ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Whittaker's Tache Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-30053692 Be like unravelling a big bag of wool!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Here is a link to a letter from Rangers then auditors Grant Thornton from Feb 2012, which expressed, amongst other things, concerns about the Ticketus deal used to purchase the club from SDM. It also references "Financial Assistance" which is an illegal means of purchasing a PLC. (i.e. using its own money). Grier is named in the letter while Clark and Whitehouse are copied on it. https://www.scribd.com/doc/246607970/2012-02-15-Grant-Thornton-Auditors-Letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 sadly she's moved on so i'm not sure she'll be able to tell us anything more than we already know. would love to have been a fly on a few different walls this morning though i tell ya! Was thinking more along the lines of the process and what's likely to happen Bev. Surely for such cases there has to be guidelines/regulations that must be followed. Though P would be ideally placed to state what that might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Roddy Forsyth's article in the telegraph has an interesting footnote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11231964/Former-Rangers-owner-Craig-Whyte-set-to-face-arrest-warrant-as-four-others-are-detained-by-police.html In a further development, the Telegraph understands that while Wallace and Nash were still in their posts, documents related to the 2012 share issue were passed to the Serious Fraud Office for investigation. The SFO had no comment to make last night. ===================== It leads to a question of what was wrong with the information supplied in the IPO prospectus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Wonder if the imfamous five way agreement has a fuse when opened destroys all the wording ??This day was always coming but we're still nowhere near the end ! Edited November 14, 2014 by Petrocelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Someone is going to turn grass in all of this. Wonder if Charlotte Fakes will reappear on Twitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrambo Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Someone is going to turn grass in all of this. Wonder if Charlotte Fakes will reappear on Twitter? Not if 'she' is under arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Alison Robbie ?@AlisonRobbie 21s21 seconds ago 4 men detained in connection with acquisition of #Rangers in 2011 have now been arrested & are in police custody. James Cook ?@BBCJamesCook 10s11 seconds ago Police say four men, aged 50, 53, 50, & 49 have been arrested over alleged involvement in a fraudulent scheme to acquire Rangers FC. Edited November 14, 2014 by Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Dream scenario - the purchase of all the assets of the liquidated club for 5.5 million is seen to be fraudulent, is overturned, the new club wound up and all the assets sold to pay off creditors. Would fecking love it. Also Duncaster and co implicated and complicit so there is a shake up of the governing bods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverley Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Was thinking more along the lines of the process and what's likely to happen Bev. Surely for such cases there has to be guidelines/regulations that must be followed. Though P would be ideally placed to state what that might be. ah gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Whyte is sunning himself LA apparently. Extradition from the USA is never easy. If he had American citizenship there may have been a problem, but I doubt he has dual citizenship(I stand to be corrected though) therefore extradition won't come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Existing club will go bust. Ownership of assets will be in limbo for years, we will see another Third Lanark. There won't even be a The Rangers v3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Alison Robbie ?@AlisonRobbie 21s21 seconds ago 4 men detained in connection with acquisition of #Rangers in 2011 have now been arrested & are in police custody. James Cook ?@BBCJamesCook 10s11 seconds ago Police say four men, aged 50, 53, 50, & 49 have been arrested over alleged involvement in a fraudulent scheme to acquire Rangers FC. Fingers crossed someone can implicate SDM in the fraud or have some form of evidence that will shame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Fingers crossed someone can implicate SDM in the fraud or have some form of evidence that will shame him. I also hope Lloyds Bank are implicated. Wasn't it Donald Muir who brought Grier in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Existing club will go bust. Ownership of assets will be in limbo for years, we will see another Third Lanark. There won't even be a The Rangers v3. God, Scotland would be a beautiful place if that happened,would it not? Mind you, what would all the huns do without an outlet for all their intolerance and prejudice?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I hope the two year old club called sevco go bust. But why do I think the SFA will protect them, so their horrible new fans dont kick off. Scottish football is corrupt, and I imagine we will all find out soon enough again why. ;0( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Just seen McCoist get asked about the arrests, "I'm shocked " aye right ally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It has been a fun day. Now back to the crux. Accounts *sign off" /agm/share issue. Going to happen anytime soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Just seen McCoist get asked about the arrests, "I'm shocked " aye right ally! Aye, shocked they all got away with it for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I also hope Lloyds Bank are implicated. Wasn't it Donald Muir who brought Grier in? David Grier formerly worked with the Bank of Scotland, then went on to work as "Head of Client Relations" at RBS. I don't know if Grier had dealings with Murray while he was at BOS, but he was certainly involved in negotiation with him along with Craig Whyte. Donald Muir's role was to look after the Bank's interest. Given that they got their money back in full from RFC, he was successful in that task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 David Grier formerly worked with the Bank of Scotland, then went on to work as "Head of Client Relations" at RBS. I don't know if Grier had dealings with Murray while he was at BOS, but he was certainly involved in negotiation with him along with Craig Whyte. Donald Muir's role was to look after the Bank's interest. Given that they got their money back in full from RFC, he was successful in that task. Fair enough. I'm sure the journo Ian Fraser will be taking an interest in any case. Murray will be ensuring he has plausible deniability in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Not if 'she' is under arrest. Wasn't "She" rumoured to be Martin Bain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Mind you, what would all the huns do without an outlet for all their intolerance and prejudice?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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