wardie Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Surely this isn't a start of things to come, I know he had a groin strain coming into game but 8 minutes????? should have started on bench rather than take the gamble, it's like Darren Anderton at Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboLad Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 JJ's choice to take the chance after an injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Surely this isn't a start of things to come, I know he had a groin strain coming into game but 8 minutes????? should have started on bench rather than take the gamble, it's like Darren Anderton at Spurs Anything wrong with Webster is in his head. He's a bottler. Maybe he felt a twinge. There were probably 10 players out there today who felt similar. He apparently does the same in training most days. Great player ability wise, but simply can't be trusted. I think stern words are needed more than physio. We're lucky Eggy is a good CH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Peter Houston was saying on the radio that Webster is the type that if he has a slight niggle then he won't play or train. Also Billy Dodds had said that he chose when he wanted to train when he was on loan at United. Maybe we're pushing him too hard the poor wee soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlingshirejambo Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Surely this isn't a start of things to come, I know he had a groin strain coming into game but 8 minutes????? should have started on bench rather than take the gamble, it's like Darren Anderton at Spurs Just listened to good interview from Peter Houston. Said that Webster will only play if HE feels 100%. If he feels a niggle he will come off, doen't take art in any high tempo training but when he does play he's outstanding. Interesting to hear from a manager what a number of us suspected, great talent, little heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardie Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 I think i'd be right in saying he never had this problem 1st time round at Hearts. He's never been the same since he left on Webster Ruling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Why look for negatives on a good day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardie Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Why look for negatives on a good day? It's not a negative, its just living in hope that Webster gets better and stays fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It's not a negative, its just living in hope that Webster gets better and stays fit Not directed at you specifically. Your sub-header seems a little pessimistic though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Tbh i thought jonsson did well at centre back once he went off. Wonder how long webster will be out for though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 If it was up to me I'd be trying to swap Webster for Kenneth, Broadfoot or virtually any centre half in the world. Complete waste of time, money and a shirt. Well done to those who played today, great performance from every single one of them, apart from the ###### who let us down yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Anything wrong with Webster is in his head. He's a bottler. Maybe he felt a twinge. There were probably 10 players out there today who felt similar. He apparently does the same in training most days. Great player ability wise, but simply can't be trusted. I think stern words are needed more than physio. We're lucky Eggy is a good CH. Spot on. I'm sure I saw Mr Jonsson pass to a team mate as well. Can anyone confirm another myth was destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardie Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 If it was up to me I'd be trying to swap Webster for Kenneth, Broadfoot or virtually any centre half in the world. Complete waste of time, money and a shirt. Well done to those who played today, great performance from every single one of them, apart from the ###### who let us down yet again. Is this a joke? Broadfoot at centre half? ok he played there today but only coz Weir was suspended, he's a better right back than CH. I'd rather have a half crippled Webster tha him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It was interesting to hear Peter Houston on the radio afterwards re Webster. He stated he was the type of player that would not play or train if he felt the slightest niggle -- he admitted there were times he simply avoided him training with the players in practice matches and brought him into things on the Friday for team shaping sessions -- he spent a lot of the time in gymn and on the cycling machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Sexy Flanders Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Is this a joke? Broadfoot at centre half? ok he played there today but only coz Weir was suspended, he's a better right back than CH. I'd rather have a half crippled Webster tha him. I used him as an example to show how much I just want rid of Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is our best defender by a mile, remember how good he was at Dundee Utd that season on loan? Webster's problem to me looks like he's scared of being out injured long term and is too busy worrying about little niggles than concentrating and giving 100% When he's on form he's one of the best in Scotland but that's not goin to help Hearts if he has a confidence issue, think it's time to get him psychologically sorted out before he becomes yet another drain on resources, he needs to man-up. Good player, weak-willed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is our best defender by a mile, remember how good he was at Dundee Utd that season on loan? Webster's problem to me looks like he's scared of being out injured long term and is too busy worrying about little niggles than concentrating and giving 100% When he's on form he's one of the best in Scotland but that's not goin to help Hearts if he has a confidence issue, think it's time to get him psychologically sorted out before he becomes yet another drain on resources, he needs to man-up. Good player, weak-willed. He is not our best defender. He's a dick and should be punted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardie Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 I used him as an example to show how much I just want rid of Webster. Fair one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It was interesting to hear Peter Houston on the radio afterwards re Webster. He stated he was the type of player that would not play or train if he felt the slightest niggle -- he admitted there were times he simply avoided him training with the players in practice matches and brought him into things on the Friday for team shaping sessions -- he spent a lot of the time in gymn and on the cycling machines. Makes him a bit of a liability IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkb Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 don`t let his injury problems get in the way webby is a great defender but has to sort his head out surounding any knocks he may get. If JJ can`t sort it out we need to get cover for him. A new centre half is a must for us the season. I hope JJ is given money to bring one in. this could hamper a decent season for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 he strolled through those 8 minutes though ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Mr Webster will play more game than andy driver this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CJGJ Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Makes him a bit of a liability IMO. Players are all different -- some thrive on hard work, some don't -- as long as they maintain a level of fitness, then more or less how it is obtained is immaterial. Perhaps we need to take a few lessons on how to keep him fit then we will benefit -- when playing and fit he is amongst the best centre backs in the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Players are all different -- some thrive on hard work, some don't -- as long as they maintain a level of fitness, then more or less how it is obtained is immaterial. Perhaps we need to take a few lessons on how to keep him fit then we will benefit -- when playing and fit he is amongst the best centre backs in the SPL. Few players go for very long without feeling a niggle or twinge of pain. If Webster is going to retire hurt every time he does, then that makes him a bit of a liability IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 He is not our best defender. He's a dick and should be punted. So who is then? Zaliukas? Never feel confident when he's near the ball. Bouzid's away, Darren Barr? This is why we need to look for another experienced centre-half. Obviously his player-of-the-year award only two seasons ago at Utd went by you coupled with his regular decent form when he was here the 1st time around. Not interested in his spat with Vlad a few years ago but he does need to get a grip of himself if he wants to get back to where he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Anything wrong with Webster is in his head. He's a bottler. Maybe he felt a twinge. There were probably 10 players out there today who felt similar. He apparently does the same in training most days. Great player ability wise, but simply can't be trusted. I think stern words are needed more than physio. We're lucky Eggy is a good CH. I was told this when he played for Rangers by an Ibrox ST holder. He described it as the golf equivalent of the Yips. All I will say is that if he only plays when it suits him, it is an utter waste of a jersey. Today JJ was restricted in his tactical approach in that we only has 2 subs left with 8 mins gone. In his defence it may be that he was not fully fit and JJ took a chance and lost. One way or another we're not doing our chances any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 So who is then? Zaliukas? Never feel confident when he's near the ball. Bouzid's away, Darren Barr? This is why we need to look for another experienced centre-half. Obviously his player-of-the-year award only two seasons ago at Utd went by you coupled with his regular decent form when he was here the 1st time around. Not interested in his spat with Vlad a few years ago but he does need to get a grip of himself if he wants to get back to where he should be. Captain Zaliukas is there when called upon. No6 is not. Both are average defenders imo. And I can disregard his form for Dungdee Utd as it's irrelevant. I'm sure the Scotland manager was impressed at how well our defence played after the Gutless wonder went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is by far and away our best defender. But he is a shitebag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is by far and away our best defender. But he is a shitebag Probably just about sums it up. I'm not sure if he's no right in the heid or if he's just a bell-end. Either way, it ain't good and needs sorted. Thing is, what if he is injured this time? Wolf wolf wolf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is by far and away our best defender. No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 We need to sign another centre back . JJ obviously thought so when he went after plug. So with Webster looking vulnerable it leaves only Zal as a natural centre back so the need for more cover in that area is even more pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 No he's not. Look behind you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 When Zal is on top form and concentrating he is up there with the best. So far with Webster we have not seen that, yes he was great at united that was a while ago now and he had the best midfield outside the uglies at the time in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 He is not our best defender. He's a dick and should be punted. Awful post. I glad it's JJ running things at Hearts and not a muppet like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Awful post. I glad it's JJ running things at Hearts and not a muppet like you. If every hearts player had websters attitude it is my opinion we would be discussing a very different result today. From his history with hearts and what Houston has said about him I too consider him to be a dick. Good player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Worrying comments from Peter Houston and if true then we need to sign another centre back, even if Webster was actually injured today. If he's this fragile and this precious, then he's not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ok i have the answer pay as you play if you dont play no money simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ok i have the answer pay as you play if you dont play no money simple as. Good idea but as he already has a contract and doesn't seem to fancy playing too often I don't think he'll go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Awful post. I glad it's JJ running things at Hearts and not a muppet like you. Jolly Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Worrying comments from Peter Houston and if true then we need to sign another centre back, even if Webster was actually injured today. If he's this fragile and this precious, then he's not for us. Not that worrying given that Houston would have loved to have signed him for Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 bottle merchant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboruss Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Mr Webster will play more game than andy driver this season. sshht you're boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 bottle merchant "Andy trained all week but a match situation is different and I think he's just stretched too hard but we'll monitor his injury and check him out tomorrow". According to JJ. http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110723/jj-hails-terrific-performance_2241384_2399144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 anyone know the extent of websters injuries mentally or physically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Webster is weak of mind and heart,Davie Weir has said all his problems are in his head.Launch the fud,even when he is fit he strolls about like a prize ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Captain Zaliukas is there when called upon. No6 is not. Both are average defenders imo. And I can disregard his form for Dungdee Utd as it's irrelevant. I'm sure the Scotland manager was impressed at how well our defence played after the Gutless wonder went off. Zaliukas has cost us more goals than any other defender before. Webster's player-of-the-year 2009 award when he controlled their defence that season is irrelevant? A-hem!! ok!! Doesn't matter if Levein was impressed or not,that's more irrelevant. McGowan=Australian, Mrowiec=Polish, Jonsson=Icelandic and Kello=Slovakian. He might've been impressed with Grainger, i'll give ye that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Zaliukas has cost us more goals than any other defender before. Webster's player-of-the-year 2009 award when he controlled their defence that season is irrelevant? A-hem!! ok!! Doesn't matter if Levein was impressed or not, McGowan=Australian, Mrowiec=Polish, Jonsson=Icelandic and Kello=Slovakian. He might've been impressed with Grainger, i'll give ye that. Graingers English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Zaliukas has cost us more goals than any other defender before. Webster's player-of-the-year 2009 award when he controlled their defence that season is irrelevant? A-hem!! ok!! Doesn't matter if Levein was impressed or not,that's more irrelevant. McGowan=Australian, Mrowiec=Polish, Jonsson=Icelandic and Kello=Slovakian. He might've been impressed with Grainger, i'll give ye that. Danny Grainger=English Edit: Beaten to it by Robbo-jambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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