Lawrence Shankland

[Percival King]

4 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

Seeth?? Every Hearts fan will be delighted and relieved!

Aye, you'd hope so, and they'll pat themselves on the back and say their tough love made the difference. Anyway, it's hypothetical 

[Thomaso]

25 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

Stop ... Why? Because it isn't popular opinion. Because it isn't your opinion. 

I'm supposed to watch a bunch of heathen animals shout abuse at their own. The collective poison of Scotland and when that's the comparison made to me and the reason for some of our lot doing it, it's supposed to justify it 

 

 

Heathen animals? Jeez please stop mate you are making a clown of yourself!

[Hearts1975]

Just now, BigAlim said:

I do think you’ve touched on a big issue here. If an employee isn’t performing then you need to look at their boss after a while

100 on that. 

[Hearts1975]

1 minute ago, Thomaso said:

Heathen animals? Jeez please stop mate you are making a clown of yourself!

I was talking about the OF fans in the video clip abusing tavernier and others. 

Go back and read the post again - I posted the video clip at the same time I said the above 

I wasn't talking about our fans and was talking about theirs 

[jamborich]

7 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

I'm not daft. I see that part and I get it. 

But I would have thought the abuse would be centred at the management for playing the guy. Not the player himself. 

I'm also a big believer when it comes to the club you treat people in terms of what they have given back. Right now it's not happening at all for him but given what he has given us, it's hard to take seeing it get to this point 

I'm more angry right now at the manager not getting his stiff finger out his arse, waking up, seeing what's going on and getting LS pulled out of the firing line pronto. 

I agree hope the manager drops him, but you can’t blame the manager for playing him, 5 minutes in the job what is he expected to do drop his best goalscorer, Shankland has let the new manager down he’s off form get him binned 

[Thomaso]

25 minutes ago, siegementality said:

I think you’ve lost sight of the fact that emotion in football is everything.

 

Some fans feel betrayed and are lashing out in the only way they feel they can. The club means more to them than any player, particularly one that doesn’t look like he wants to be here. I am not condoning it, but in the same breath I can understand it. You are allowed to do both.

Well said 👍

[Thomaso]

16 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

I was talking about the OF fans in the video clip abusing tavernier and others. 

Go back and read the post again - I posted the video clip at the same time I said the above 

I wasn't talking about our fans and was talking about theirs 

Fair enough 👍

[FERRY HEARTS]

8 hours ago, Hearts1975 said:

Wtf 

He's running his contract down ... That's his choice. Making out it's a cardinal sin when it happens absolutely everywhere 

Not performing - thinks he's better than us - better than what ? Who says ... You? 

So the whole squad including the manager says he is completely devastated but we have to believe some comment on a message board and take that as gospel 

F........ sickening what's happening .... I don't agree with not taking him out the side but that's the MANAGERS job, not his. He will play, if he is asked to play - he is an absolute shadow of himself but it's a conspiracy because he has been tapped up by the liquidated mob and canny be arsed now 

So the last 2 years was just a ploy but the minute they came along for him he was always going to down tools 

The shankland master plan in all its glory, from hero to zero ... Laid out pure and simple 

Shankland, shankland GTF 

The amount of self-expectant arse..... we have in our support is absolutely incredible 

Best post so far. Some absolute rocket s in our support in Brugge who can’t handle good beer , short memories 30 goals last season which have taken us on our European travels this year ! As for no coming to applaud the crowd who wants to hear themselves being ripped apart by an element of drink fuelled support 

 

 

[footballingarts]

I'm 50-50 on Shanks being dropped - but worth noting re his penalty miss - two of the best strikers in the world  missed penalties in the Liverpool v Real Madrid game -  Mbappe and Salah. (Though I doubt if they've missed 4 in the last year and a half).

 

Anyway - if Shanks plays he needs supported not heckled or booed, which would just simply be counter-productive.

 

But if dropped that's fine, give Musa and or Wilson a real go. 

[Bazzas right boot]

8 hours ago, siegementality said:

I think you’ve lost sight of the fact that emotion in football is everything.

 

Some fans feel betrayed and are lashing out in the only way they feel they can. The club means more to them than any player, particularly one that doesn’t look like he wants to be here. I am not condoning it, but in the same breath I can understand it. You are allowed to do both.

 

Emotion- In many cases that's just frustrated, probably overweight middle aged men just venting and raging.  Many on here seem to enjoy it, as they only post when raging.

 

Screaming  abuse at the game or venting hate on a forum doesn't mean these folk care more than grown up adults who have a bit balance and maturity.

 

Don't confuse people raging, frothing and  hate spewing as emotional.

 

Many folk that don't post on here or post with a bit more balance are also emotional about Hearts,  they just aren't massive greetin face man babies.

 

If any adult feels "betrayed" because Hearrs got beat at football they need to get a grip, take things less personally and re-evaluate their life priorities.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30 by Bazzas right boot

[Bazzas right boot]

25 minutes ago, footballingarts said:

I'm 50-50 on Shanks being dropped - but worth noting re his penalty miss - two of the best strikers in the world  missed penalties in the Liverpool v Real Madrid game -  Mbappe and Salah. (Though I doubt if they've missed 4 in the last year and a half).

 

Anyway - if Shanks plays he needs supported not heckled or booed, which would just simply be counter-productive.

 

But if dropped that's fine, give Musa and or Wilson a real go. 

 

I think he needs dropped,  but we won't  start with a front line of Musa and Wilson or Vargas. 

It's far too lightweight, that would become apparent very quickly. 

[highlandjambo3]

13 hours ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said:

I think Shankland has let everything get to his head. 

 

* He has been convinced that a club wants him and will pay him much more than he is getting at Hearts.

* He is frustrated that club will not pay what Hearts want as a straightforward transfer.

* He believes that club will make a bid in January, or he can run down the Hearts contract.

Looking a points two and three, there appears little other explanation for rejecting the new contract Hearts offered.

 

In addition:

* The callousness of his treatment by the Scotland national team manager has sapped his confidence

 

I think your last point speaks volumes about where his head is at.

[SectionDJambo]

If Shankland plays, we should try Musa up front with him. A physical presence and unknown to Aberdeen.

[Italian Lambretta]

1 minute ago, SectionDJambo said:

If Shankland plays, we should try Musa up front with him. A physical presence and unknown to Aberdeen.

I agree if we have to pick him then play Miss who’ll be itching to prove himself

[Sherbet]

6 hours ago, FERRY HEARTS said:

Best post so far. Some absolute rocket s in our support in Brugge who can’t handle good beer , short memories 30 goals last season which have taken us on our European travels this year ! As for no coming to applaud the crowd who wants to hear themselves being ripped apart by an element of drink fuelled support 

 

 

The main problem is shankland is heavily tipped by the press to sign for Rangers.  The same reason souttar got booed. If souttar had signed a pre contract with say Blackburn the fans would have been more tolerant.

[Diego10]

4 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

The main problem is shankland is heavily tipped by the press to sign for Rangers.  The same reason souttar got booed. If souttar had signed a pre contract with say Blackburn the fans would have been more tolerant.

Rangers aren't interested.  That might change if they sack Clement but for now I'd doubt very much that he goes there. 

 

 

[Sub4TiddlerMurray]

If Shanks start or comes off the bench, I hope the crowd gives him a huge lift with “there’s only one Lawrence Shankland!” Or similar. That is more likely to encourage the best out him rather than abuse. 🤞♥️🎉

[OTT]

10 minutes ago, Diego10 said:

Rangers aren't interested.  That might change if they sack Clement but for now I'd doubt very much that he goes there. 

 

 

 

I think he's opened himself up to huge questions over his mentality and professionalism, which presents a pretty significant risk for Rangers. They're already running losses, they probably aren't too enthusiastic about doling out a lengthy and pricey contract to a 30 year old that has had one of the worst seasons imaginable, came back from preseason unfit etc. 

 

Rangers need to focus on signing younger players that can be sold on for profit. 

[liam11]

Just drop him please and try something different tomorrow. Go with Musa, or Wilson and see what happens. We’re not scoring as it is, it can’t be any worse

[22games nro]

19 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said:

If Shanks start or comes off the bench, I hope the crowd gives him a huge lift with “there’s only one Lawrence Shankland!” Or similar. That is more likely to encourage the best out him rather than abuse. 🤞♥️🎉

Agree 100% 👍👍👍

[Sherbet]

20 minutes ago, Diego10 said:

Rangers aren't interested.  That might change if they sack Clement but for now I'd doubt very much that he goes there. 

 

 

agree  but the daily ranger insists he is.  if he/we thought the abuse on thursday was bad   can only imagine the abuse levels if he goes through a similar run with them 

[Nerja Jambo]

20 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I think he's opened himself up to huge questions over his mentality and professionalism, which presents a pretty significant risk for Rangers. They're already running losses, they probably aren't too enthusiastic about doling out a lengthy and pricey contract to a 30 year old that has had one of the worst seasons imaginable, came back from preseason unfit etc. 

 

Rangers need to focus on signing younger players that can be sold on for profit. 

With the financial state Rangers are in I would doubt that the difference in wages we offered and what they could offer would not be that great. What does Shankland do if Rangers don't give him an offer and we don't either. What type of move would then be open to him. 

[Gmcjambo]

10 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

agree  but the daily ranger insists he is.  if he/we thought the abuse on thursday was bad   can only imagine the abuse levels if he goes through a similar run with them 

Wouldn’t happen though,  he’d be dropped,  seeing minutes from subs bench.   Lack of options has been our problem hence why he’s been a regular starter no matter his form.   Rangers would simply cut his game time and he’d have to prove he was worth a start.   That should also be the case for us too of course.

[Gmcjambo]

1 minute ago, Nerja Jambo said:

With the financial state Rangers are in I would doubt that the difference in wages we offered and what they could offer would not be that great. What does Shankland do if Rangers don't give him an offer and we don't either. What type of move would then be open to him. 

Probably back to Dundee United.

[OTT]

9 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

With the financial state Rangers are in I would doubt that the difference in wages we offered and what they could offer would not be that great. What does Shankland do if Rangers don't give him an offer and we don't either. What type of move would then be open to him. 

 

Its an odd one. With such a young family, you'd have thought staying put would be preferrable but if Rangers aren't interested, it doesn't leave many options unless he does do what Boyle did and piss off to some Oil league for <18 months. 

[gwd1957]

22 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

agree  but the daily ranger insists he is.  if he/we thought the abuse on thursday was bad   can only imagine the abuse levels if he goes through a similar run with them 

Rangers can't afford to sack Clemment, they can't afford £500,000 to sign a dud  striker from Hearts , his options are very limited as  things stand .

[kingantti1874]

28 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said:

Wouldn’t happen though,  he’d be dropped,  seeing minutes from subs bench.   Lack of options has been our problem hence why he’s been a regular starter no matter his form.   Rangers would simply cut his game time and he’d have to prove he was worth a start.   That should also be the case for us too of course.

Like Tav or Dessers? I do agree with you btw but rangers fans would boo their granny.  If they aren’t winning they are all getting it 

Edited November 30 by kingantti1874

[siegementality]

7 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Emotion- In many cases that's just frustrated, probably overweight middle aged men just venting and raging.  Many on here seem to enjoy it, as they only post when raging.

 

Screaming  abuse at the game or venting hate on a forum doesn't mean these folk care more than grown up adults who have a bit balance and maturity.

 

Don't confuse people raging, frothing and  hate spewing as emotional.

 

Many folk that don't post on here or post with a bit more balance are also emotional about Hearts,  they just aren't massive greetin face man babies.

 

If any adult feels "betrayed" because Hearrs got beat at football they need to get a grip, take things less personally and re-evaluate their life priorities.

 

 

 

 

 

Thankfully my initial response was more balanced and mature than your reply.

[Sherbet]

1 hour ago, gwd1957 said:

Rangers can't afford to sack Clemment, they can't afford £500,000 to sign a dud  striker from Hearts , his options are very limited as  things stand .

Pre contract or freedom.of contract

[Regular John]

If Shankland starts tomorrow serious questions need to start being asked of Critchley with regards his judgement and man management.

 

We're at the point now of where he arguably isn't putting anything in place to manage the issue and hoping it resolves itself.

 

Is he not strong enough to manage him?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fake Persona]

2 hours ago, Gmcjambo said:

Probably back to Dundee United.

I don't think any club in the premier would afford his demands or even want him any more, actually. 

Genuinely fear for his career now. He might get a big wage move to a diddy cash rich league, sure. US or Arabia, but if he doesn't go to Rangers or re-sign here (I wouldn't offer him) I feel the only way is down for him. Back to the SPFL championship maybe...

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

6 minutes ago, Regular John said:

If Shankland starts tomorrow serious questions need to start being asked of Critchley with regards his judgement and man management.

 

We're at the point now of where he arguably isn't putting anything in place to manage the issue and hoping it resolves itself.

 

Is he not strong enough to manage him?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts aswell, critchley needs to show leadership and take him out for the teams and his benefit

[AC Mallin_51]

I’ve cooled down since Thursday. No one is undroppable though and his form merits being dropped. However one thing that would turn our season on its head is if this guy got his mojo back. Highly unlikely but just imagine he started knocking them in again. An on form shankland and we likley still finish top 6

[MR INCREDIBLE]

I am one of Shanklands worst critics but if he starts tomorrow we must get behind him 🇱🇻🇱🇻

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

11 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said:

I am one of Shanklands worst critics but if he starts tomorrow we must get behind him 🇱🇻🇱🇻

 

If he is in team, he gets support. Happy to get behind team from first whistle till full time, provided the team are fully committed and get stuck in.

[Bob Loblaw]

If he does start today, which I think he will, giving him a bit encouragement early doors could make a huge difference.  He'll be going out expecting the worst, if we get behind him instead as a collective it could be huge for him.

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

2 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

If he does start today, which I think he will, giving him a bit encouragement early doors could make a huge difference.  He'll be going out expecting the worst, if we get behind him instead as a collective it could be huge for him.

He always gets encouraged from the stands , in brugge on Thursday fans were singing his name long before kick off and during the game but turned because his performances and missed penalty 

[The Treasurer]

19 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

If Shankland plays, we should try Musa up front with him. A physical presence and unknown to Aberdeen.

I think this is worth a try.

Mussa deserves a chance and Shankland desperately needs proper support up front 

[kingantti1874]

11 hours ago, MR INCREDIBLE said:

I am one of Shanklands worst critics but if he starts tomorrow we must get behind him 🇱🇻🇱🇻

 

of course.  We need to get behind every player in maroon. 

[jamboinglasgow]

13 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

If he does start today, which I think he will, giving him a bit encouragement early doors could make a huge difference.  He'll be going out expecting the worst, if we get behind him instead as a collective it could be huge for him.

 

Yeah I agree, giving him all the support on the pitch if he starts, because ultimately you want him to get back to his goal scoring form.

[CostaJambo]

I don't think The Rangers have ever really wanted him, but they have more than likely been a significant factor in him currently being so unsettled.

[Bob Loblaw]

17 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

He always gets encouraged from the stands , in brugge on Thursday fans were singing his name long before kick off and during the game but turned because his performances and missed penalty 

I agree normally he does, but Thursday wasn't pleasant at the end. He never missed the penalty on purpose so don't want to see a continuation of that as it's counter productive. 

 

 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

1 minute ago, Bob Loblaw said:

I agree normally he does, but Thursday wasn't pleasant at the end. He never missed the penalty on purpose so don't want to see a continuation of that as it's counter productive. 

 

 

He needs taken out imo but if he's in the team he'll get my support as will every other player 

[Bob Loblaw]

1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

He needs taken out imo but if he's in the team he'll get my support as will every other player 

Agreed on both counts. 

Edited December 1 by Bob Loblaw

[jamboozy]

11 hours ago, MR INCREDIBLE said:

I am one of Shanklands worst critics but if he starts tomorrow we must get behind him 🇱🇻🇱🇻

 

Definitely, let’s show some unity and support our team. We need to make Tynecastle toxic for visiting teams not our own team.

[ramrod]

We all know he's woefulyl out of form and his confidence is shot but it's the wallowing about in self pity that's pising off me and many others.

The club and situation we are in is much more important than him and as captain of the club he should recognise this  

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

8 minutes ago, jamboozy said:

Definitely, let’s show some unity and support our team. We need to make Tynecastle toxic for visiting teams not our own team.

We do support the team when they give us something to support but not every supporter has blind loyalty when we watching highly paid underachievers going through the motions being beat by teams with a quarter of our resources 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

3 minutes ago, ramrod said:

We all know he's woefulyl out of form and his confidence is shot but it's the wallowing about in self pity that's pising off me and many others.

The club and situation we are in is much more important than him and as captain of the club he should recognise this  

His body language is a disgrace and Sibbick, Atkinson got stick for exact same body language 

[If carlsberg did rivals...]

Shankland is as low as 3/1 to score the first goal today! I wouldn't back him at that price to put his boots on the correct feet! 

[Kenbo]

I hope he is rested today for his own sake. Maybe a week on bench will help him. But seriously hope the crown get behind him if/when he is on the pitch. Too many short memories of the contribution he has made over last couple of seasons. The guy is only human.