Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Halkett won't be first pick when he's back. Let's be brutally honest, we can't trust his fitness and so it would be negligent on the clubs part not to bring a CB in to replace him, even if it's a loan. If he's fit, great lets see if he's back to his best. Until then, we operate on the basis he isn't fit. Actually, if we're being really brutally honest, should we operate on the basis that he won’t be back at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Actually, if we're being really brutally honest, should we operate on the basis that he won’t be back at all? yes. ditto boyce and tagawa. Anything we get from them becomes a bonus. But signings/squad planning should be done on the assumption that we get nothing from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: yes. ditto boyce and tagawa. Anything we get from them becomes a bonus. But signings/squad planning should be done on the assumption that we get nothing from them. Harsh on Tagawa but fair point re Boyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Where's that wummin with the magic stick, when you need her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Harsh on Tagawa but fair point re Boyce it's harsh on all 3, but we are not a charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Kents the defender we have been needing for years, since Berra was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Jack Torrance said: Where's that wummin with the magic stick, when you need her? Last seen polishing Vlads torpedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan 10 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Yeah I agree we really need Kent back for the next two game as next two games are huge. I hope Kent stays another year would like to see him and neilson as a partnership next season halkett as back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert Simnel Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Presumably everyone else has already seen the recent stat on BBC Sport regarding our defending set pieces: "Hearts haven't conceded a single goal from a corner this season, the only team in the Scottish Premiership to have achieved this with all others having let in at least four. Their defending from crosses is also one of the best in the league, with only St Mirren letting in fewer goals from crosses." Real credit to be given across the board for that, given we were a disaster zone against crosses last season, but I'm sure the main difference in Frankie Kent. I hope he's back soon, and (fingers crossed) is more tempted by playing in Europe than a possible wage bump to play in the second or third tier of English football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 20 minutes ago, Lambert Simnel said: Presumably everyone else has already seen the recent stat on BBC Sport regarding our defending set pieces: "Hearts haven't conceded a single goal from a corner this season, the only team in the Scottish Premiership to have achieved this with all others having let in at least four. Their defending from crosses is also one of the best in the league, with only St Mirren letting in fewer goals from crosses." Real credit to be given across the board for that, given we were a disaster zone against crosses last season, but I'm sure the main difference in Frankie Kent. I hope he's back soon, and (fingers crossed) is more tempted by playing in Europe than a possible wage bump to play in the second or third tier of English football. Still got the stat for the league, but Naismith left someone up at a corner v Spartans presumably in response to the Q&A where a fan complained to him about it. We immediately conceded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, May98 said: Kents the defender we have been needing for years, since Berra was done. Berra was done while he was still here, if the truth be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May98 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 35 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Berra was done while he was still here, if the truth be told. First season he wasn't, he got injured and was never the same again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 hours ago, 4marsbars said: That's a bit like describing Robbo and Shankland as 'poachers' who are 'just' goal scorers. If it was that simple lots of players would do it more. Same with the aerial dominance and last-ditch defending that Kent does. There's nothing 'just' about that. He's immense. Nah. He's a good stopper, but to go to bigger clubs you need to be a better footballer. I don't think bigger clubs will be after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 17 hours ago, TheBigO said: Yup, and I think he may well know he can play at our level for a few more years too. Another good season and he gets another contract. We never know what a guys personal situ is or what their agent is trying to drum up for Frankie feels very much like a boy who has found a good fit for himself at a late-ish point in his career - as I say probably one contract left in him at this level, his best bet is probably Hearts. Rather than struggling to keep him, is Frankie captain material would be my question. And also, yeah when he back!?!?!?!?! New contract mid-season next year with offer of the armband in the summer. European football every year until retirement. Going nowhere. Hopefully back soon. The way this season is going, might not need him for the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 hours ago, kila said: Still got the stat for the league, but Naismith left someone up at a corner v Spartans presumably in response to the Q&A where a fan complained to him about it. We immediately conceded Does that count? Corner was defended and it was a recycled (and mishit) cross from a defender who was offside? Has to go in the concedes from a cross stats box but not so sure about a corner… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 hours ago, HopeDiouf said: it's harsh on all 3, but we are not a charity. Agreed. Giving both Halkett and Boyce contract extensions was a big mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 A bit worrying no updates from Naismith about Kent Was only meant to be out a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 26/03/2024 at 08:06, Threedoorsdown said: We are going to really struggle to keep ahold of Kent I think. What a difference he’s made. You really like to cheer us all up don’t you………………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, Yoda said: Agreed. Giving both Halkett and Boyce contract extensions was a big mistake. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said: A bit worrying no updates from Naismith about Kent Was only meant to be out a few weeks. Well we all know at Hearts that means months! 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Shaggy2 said: Does that count? Corner was defended and it was a recycled (and mishit) cross from a defender who was offside? Has to go in the concedes from a cross stats box but not so sure about a corner… Well he was spare at the edge of the box 😂 I'll say it counts, purely because Naisy said he was gonna blame the boy for it if we conceded!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Well he was spare at the edge of the box 😂 I'll say it counts, purely because Naisy said he was gonna blame the boy for it if we conceded!! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Kent's our new Pressley. He'll be here until we don't want him, no danger we're selling him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: A bit worrying no updates from Naismith about Kent Was only meant to be out a few weeks. He was out clubbing a week past Saturday, he was fine, no sign of injury. Edit: not clubbing, bar drinking late Edited March 27 by brux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, brux said: He was out clubbing a week past Saturday, he was fine, no sign of injury. Edit: not clubbing, bar drinking late Seen him & a few others in Freddy's. Top man FK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojambo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 20 hours ago, Lambert Simnel said: Presumably everyone else has already seen the recent stat on BBC Sport regarding our defending set pieces: "Hearts haven't conceded a single goal from a corner this season, the only team in the Scottish Premiership to have achieved this with all others having let in at least four. Their defending from crosses is also one of the best in the league, with only St Mirren letting in fewer goals from crosses." Real credit to be given across the board for that, given we were a disaster zone against crosses last season, but I'm sure the main difference in Frankie Kent. I hope he's back soon, and (fingers crossed) is more tempted by playing in Europe than a possible wage bump to play in the second or third tier of English football. One of the all time great put downs at the AGM when an unhappy fan moaned about all the team coming back for corners and didn't he want to think about changing it. Naisy stated that as we were the only team in the Premiership who hadn't conceded from a set piece no he didn't want to think about changing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 26/03/2024 at 08:10, kingantti1874 said: Oh ffs. No we aren’t going to struggle to keep Kent. Hes 28 and we are by far and away the biggest club he’s played for. he not a new kid on the block, plenty of teams in England offered him deals when he moved up here. 😆 🤣 💥 have that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Fit for the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Fit for the weekend Great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wavydavy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 29 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Fit for the weekend Good news although I hope we are not rushing him back. Don't want any set backs with him. He is a really important player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 10 hours ago, Yoda said: Agreed. Giving both Halkett and Boyce contract extensions was a big mistake. Boyces was triggered by playing a certain number of games, and in fairness, we were a far better team with him in at at the time. Whether we should have been relying on a 32 year old Liam Boyce early on in the season is a different story. A 3 year deal for Halkett now looks like complete madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: Boyces was triggered by playing a certain number of games, and in fairness, we were a far better team with him in at at the time. Whether we should have been relying on a 32 year old Liam Boyce early on in the season is a different story. A 3 year deal for Halkett now looks like complete madness. Not if he gets back to full fitness. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Bunny Munro said: Boyces was triggered by playing a certain number of games, and in fairness, we were a far better team with him in at at the time. Whether we should have been relying on a 32 year old Liam Boyce early on in the season is a different story. A 3 year deal for Halkett now looks like complete madness. Halkett’s contract is now to summer 2026, so a two year extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gar jambo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 26/03/2024 at 15:56, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Actually, if we're being really brutally honest, should we operate on the basis that he won’t be back at all? Just get Halks fit for next season no rush with a good pre-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, wavydavy said: Good news although I hope we are not rushing him back. Don't want any set backs with him. He is a really important player for us. He certainly is Davy and we have a massive game on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: He certainly is Davy and we have a massive game on Saturday. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 16 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Fit for the weekend Yes great news. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/big-boost-for-hearts-as-four-experienced-players-return-from-injury-for-saturdays-game-against-kilmarnock-4571162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 26/03/2024 at 12:48, Fozzyonthefence said: Most players, given the choice between maybe doubling or tripling their wages or getting their arses felt 4-0 by a fairly average European team like PAOK are going to opt for the former. And I can’t blame them, they’re only human and need to look out for their families, it’s a short career. Champions League could be a game changer but that’s not happening. That might be true for most players but Kent openly stated he wanted a fresh challenge having spent his whole career in the championship/league 1/league 2, I'd wager that getting to play European group stage football next season appeals to him way more than a return to the English lower leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 18 hours ago, Bunny Munro said: Boyces was triggered by playing a certain number of games, and in fairness, we were a far better team with him in at at the time. Whether we should have been relying on a 32 year old Liam Boyce early on in the season is a different story. A 3 year deal for Halkett now looks like complete madness. Halkett is only 28/29 so if he can get back he's still got a few years left in him. Worth the gamble imo. Boyce? I'd have let him go at the end of his last deal personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 So, any news on Frankie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Does Frankie have a Scottish granny? Hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Yes great news. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/big-boost-for-hearts-as-four-experienced-players-return-from-injury-for-saturdays-game-against-kilmarnock-4571162 great to hear. Having Kent and Nieuwenhof is great as they have been one of the first names on the team sheet. McKay once he is back to full fitness changes us as he adds a bit more creativity. With players coming back at the right time, it should hopefully put us in a strong position in the run in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Halkett is only 28/29 so if he can get back he's still got a few years left in him. Worth the gamble imo. Boyce? I'd have let him go at the end of his last deal personally. I've said the same. When fit he's an absolute colossus and a huge leader at the back. Proper defender much like Kent and because of his age I'd say it's definitely worth the gamble. It could obviously go either way but injuries can happen to any player. Some players bounce back and I'm keeping the faith that Halkett will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 52 minutes ago, Chimp said: I've said the same. When fit he's an absolute colossus and a huge leader at the back. Proper defender much like Kent and because of his age I'd say it's definitely worth the gamble. It could obviously go either way but injuries can happen to any player. Some players bounce back and I'm keeping the faith that Halkett will too. Yeh, really hope he comes back. I think he's a cracking player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Taffin said: Yeh, really hope he comes back. I think he's a cracking player for us. When fit he has been our best centre half over the last few years, missed him massively and hopefully he gets fit in time for Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Halkett has tried to come back at least 3 times now, giving him a new contract wasn't great business. I'd be planning for being without him next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Not Kent related but Hearts injury related https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liam-boyce-hands-hearts-injury-32464411 Boyce could be back before the end of the season, he is back training on grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Not Kent related but Hearts injury related https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liam-boyce-hands-hearts-injury-32464411 Boyce could be back before the end of the season, he is back training on grass. If he quits the smoking he might even come back earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 27 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Not Kent related but Hearts injury related https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liam-boyce-hands-hearts-injury-32464411 Boyce could be back before the end of the season, he is back training on grass. What is Boyce's injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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