Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Clark - 5 - Weak effort at the crucial first goal. Not helped by shaky defending in front Atkinson - 4 - Was ok going forward but was sloppy in possession on a number of crucial occasions Kingsley - 7 - It feels very harsh not to credit him on the free kick that doesn't count Sibbick - 5 - Was excellent up until the jersey selling moment Rowles - 6 - Moved all over the place at the back. Ok Baningime - 6 - Did a ton of dirty work Vargas - 7 - MoM. So unlucky not to score in the little service he was given Denholm - 5 - Lots of effort but little ability Shankland - 5 - Should have had a penalty and didn't need to be a smart arse at Kingsley's free kick but was poor Forrest - 6 - Lots of endeavour and decent shooting but his passing and crossing was terrible Cochrane - 5 - Mediocre Subs: Lembikisa - 5 - Marginal improvement on Atkinson Grant - 4 - Manages to look busy doing nothing Oda - 6 - Cracking finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Riddle me this. How does Denholm start over Tait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Clark 5 Atkinson 5 Sibbick 5 Kingsley 6 Rowles 6 Vargas 6 Baningime 5 Denholm 4 Cochrane 4 Shankland 5 Forrest 5 Lembikisa 5 Oda 6 Grant 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Harsh again on grant. Looks busy doing nothing. He said up our goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, jamboy1982 said: Harsh again on grant. Looks busy doing nothing. He said up our goal. Yeah I don't get that at all. He made a difference after coming on - constantly had the head up looking to break their defence, did some dirty work and slid in Oda very well for the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, jamboy1982 said: Harsh again on grant. Looks busy doing nothing. He said up our goal. I don't remember the pass being anything special? Only a superb finish from Oda. Beni motm Sibbick brain farts cost us as much as the referee Denholm isn't good enough and I don't understand Cochrane in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, jamboy1982 said: Harsh again on grant. Looks busy doing nothing. He said up our goal. That goal was all on Oda's finish. Grant's part was minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Not writing the lad off but what does Denholm actually bring to this team? Persobally never stood out for me and Tait as showed more ability in less appeareces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Harsh again on grant. Looks busy doing nothing. He said up our goal. No doubt he’d made up his mind on Grant’s rating before a ball was kicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Homme said: Yeah I don't get that at all. He made a difference after coming on - constantly had the head up looking to break their defence, did some dirty work and slid in Oda very well for the goal. Same guys every week give him a hard time. He does a lot of good work. Yes he’s frustrating but he looks to pass forward and keeps the high press going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: That goal was all on Oda's finish. Grant's part was minimal. You’ve just got a thing for grant. You give him poor marks every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badonde Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Clark - 5 - Weak effort at the crucial first goal. Not helped by shaky defending in front Atkinson - 4 - Was ok going forward but was sloppy in possession on a number of crucial occasions Kingsley - 7 - It feels very harsh not to credit him on the free kick that doesn't count Sibbick - 5 - Was excellent up until the jersey selling moment Rowles - 6 - Moved all over the place at the back. Ok Baningime - 6 - Did a ton of dirty work Vargas - 7 - MoM. So unlucky not to score in the little service he was given Denholm - 5 - Lots of effort but little ability Shankland - 5 - Should have had a penalty and didn't need to be a smart arse at Kingsley's free kick but was poor Forrest - 6 - Lots of endeavour and decent shooting but his passing and crossing was terrible Cochrane - 5 - Mediocre Subs: Lembikisa - 5 - Marginal improvement on Atkinson Grant - 4 - Manages to look busy doing nothing Oda - 6 - Cracking finish The words “excellent” and “sibbick”should never be used in tne same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 Just now, jamboy1982 said: You’ve just got a thing for grant. You give him poor marks every week. I've given him MoM twice this season but bash on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Clark 4 Sibbick 5 Atkinson 3 Kingsley 7 Cochrane 5 Rowles 3 Denholm 3 Forrest 5 Shankland 4 Vargas 5 Beni 6 Pish match. Whoever thought Shankland should stand in an offside position needs a word. I missed Sibbicks mistake but thought Clark couldve saved it. Gordon would have. Time for a keeper swap. Rowles made a mess of marking for the second goal. Oda 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, feedthefox said: Riddle me this. How does Denholm start over Tait? Over anyone????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3s all round, including the manager. Ref -3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: Clark 4 Sibbick 5 Atkinson 3 Kingsley 7 Cochrane 5 Rowles 3 Denholm 3 Forrest 5 Shankland 4 Vargas 5 Beni 6 Pish match. Whoever thought Shankland should stand in an offside position needs a word. I missed Sibbicks mistake but thought Clark couldve saved it. Gordon would have. Time for a keeper swap. Rowles made a mess of marking for the second goal. Oda 7 For me the second goal is the fault of Cochrane and not Rowles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Homme said: For me the second goal is the fault of Cochrane and not Rowles. Why's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, Badonde said: The words “excellent” and “sibbick”should never be used in tne same sentence. I really feel for Toby. He was excellent against Celtic two weeks ago and started really well today (and continued to do fairly well after the brain fart) but his good moments are always overshadowed in supporters minds by his occasional costly lapses in concentration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazza74 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 24 minutes ago, feedthefox said: Riddle me this. How does Denholm start over Tait? And Fraser and devlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Would give Denholm and Atkinson a 2. Atkinson can't control a football and needs punted this summer. Denholm will never be good enough for a League 2 club so **** knows why he is in the first team. How Tait can't get a game before him is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Manager - 0. Shite formation and team selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago Clark 5 Atkinson 3 Sibbick 1 Kingsley 6 Rowles 4 Vargas 6 Baningime 5 Denholm 1 Cochrane 3 Shankland 2 Forrest 5 Lembikisa 5 Oda 6 Grant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, stevie said: 5 minutes ago Clark 5 Atkinson 3 Sibbick 1 Kingsley 6 Rowles 4 Vargas 6 Baningime 5 Denholm 1 Cochrane 3 Shankland 2 Forrest 5 Lembikisa 5 Oda 6 Grant 1 Why a 1 for grant? Came off the bench, won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and set up our only goal with an actual forward pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Can we sort out a *** Midfield please.We must have the worst midfield in the league. Neilson -Levein - Neilson -Naismith and nothing has *** changed.Weak as shit in the middle after 6 *** years trying to sort it out.Criminal incompitance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) Don't quite know where to post this, so thought the ratings thread would maybe be the place. Just to demonstrate the utter incompetence of the BBC, today's player of the match was... Connor Randall !!! He didnae even start !!! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68519703 Scroll down to the bottom. Edited March 16 by whodanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Didn’t see anything today, but hoping this is just one of those off days any team can have, and not a sign of thinking 3rd is wrapped up like we’ve done in the not so distant past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessjambo67 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, stevie said: Can we sort out a *** Midfield please.We must have the worst midfield in the league. Neilson -Levein - Neilson -Naismith and nothing has *** changed.Weak as shit in the middle after 6 *** years trying to sort it out.Criminal incompitance. Our midfield definitely lacks that bit of creativity a good ball carrying player obviously I want it to work for denholm but I really don’t know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 21 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: Why's that. Would need to see it again but I'm sure Murray comes in from wide. He's behind Cochrane who has absolutely no awareness about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badonde Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 22 minutes ago, Jamboross said: I really feel for Toby. He was excellent against Celtic two weeks ago and started really well today (and continued to do fairly well after the brain fart) but his good moments are always overshadowed in supporters minds by his occasional costly lapses in concentration. He’s rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 We cannot keep only turning up when we're behind. I'm sick of it, its unprofessional. Start the game with fire, aim to go ahead and stop being so ****ing passive.. you cannot chuck 45+ minutes and expect to get the results you want. In Europe we will get ****ing diddled if we try that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 24 minutes ago, Jamboross said: I really feel for Toby. He was excellent against Celtic two weeks ago and started really well today (and continued to do fairly well after the brain fart) but his good moments are always overshadowed in supporters minds by his occasional costly lapses in concentration. Costly is the thing! Everybody makes mistakes but they're not always costly but Toby's brain farts always seem to cost us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 53 minutes ago, Chaps said: Not writing the lad off but what does Denholm actually bring to this team? Persobally never stood out for me and Tait as showed more ability in less appeareces. I think SN has no place for Devlin, who undoes any good work with poor passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 26 minutes ago, stevie said: Can we sort out a *** Midfield please.We must have the worst midfield in the league. Neilson -Levein - Neilson -Naismith and nothing has *** changed.Weak as shit in the middle after 6 *** years trying to sort it out.Criminal incompitance. Stop shoehorning cochrane into the team,especially in midfield,over other midfielders who cant be happy to be benched over a left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Funny how many "what ifs" there were today. White's unbelievable, gobsmacking miss Toby's fine volley that the keeper did well to keep out Shanks' card that should have been a pen The disallowed free kick Sibbick's brain fart Could easily have been 3-1 County or 3-1 us. At the end of the day, they came out of the tunnel with their hair on fire and we struggled to respond to the intensity. Some mistakes in the shape and the selection, I think, and that didn't help. Win next week and third is effectively done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Forrest, Vargas and Grant the only ones with pass marks. Everyone else was pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 21 minutes ago, Badonde said: He’s rubbish He quite obviously isn't though. He's played 50-60 odd games in the English Championship, had good performances against Chelsea, Celtic and others. He's a decent enough defender at our level and his athleticism and ability on the ball is really quite good. I'm not excusing his cock ups, concentration/focus has always been an issue for him and he needs to find a way to fix that but some of the criticism is way over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmc1 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 No one was great today but my god Atkinson and Denholm 🙈 so poor and no quality. Gordon should also be playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 He is a *** Donkey,costs us time and again.Id punt him tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamb04life Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Clark - 5 - Weak effort at the crucial first goal. Not helped by shaky defending in front Atkinson - 4 - Was ok going forward but was sloppy in possession on a number of crucial occasions Kingsley - 7 - It feels very harsh not to credit him on the free kick that doesn't count Sibbick - 5 - Was excellent up until the jersey selling moment Rowles - 6 - Moved all over the place at the back. Ok Baningime - 6 - Did a ton of dirty work Vargas - 7 - MoM. So unlucky not to score in the little service he was given Denholm - 5 - Lots of effort but little ability Shankland - 5 - Should have had a penalty and didn't need to be a smart arse at Kingsley's free kick but was poor Forrest - 6 - Lots of endeavour and decent shooting but his passing and crossing was terrible Cochrane - 5 - Mediocre Subs: Lembikisa - 5 - Marginal improvement on Atkinson Grant - 4 - Manages to look busy doing nothing Oda - 6 - Cracking finish Can’t see too much wrong with this. Thought Oda looked sharp when he came on and took his goal well Naismith got the midfield badly wrong today. Cochrane is a good player but I think he’s been off the pace for the past couple of weeks so shouldn’t be shoehorning him into the team. Denholm; still young but Tait deserves a start over him. Another issue that needs sorted is our corners; absolutely honking and never looked like scoring. We need to try something different than just aimlessly sticking the ball into the box, especially against a team who were pretty decent in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Funny how many "what ifs" there were today. White's unbelievable, gobsmacking miss Toby's fine volley that the keeper did well to keep out Shanks' card that should have been a pen The disallowed free kick Sibbick's brain fart Could easily have been 3-1 County or 3-1 us. At the end of the day, they came out of the tunnel with their hair on fire and we struggled to respond to the intensity. Some mistakes in the shape and the selection, I think, and that didn't help. Win next week and third is effectively done. Problem for me here is that this isn't the first time we've suffered from that lack of intensity - TBH its the same issue as under Robbie, where the players aren't starting games properly. It suggests the problem isn't the manager but the personel. I think Naismith got his selection wrong - Grant should have started ahead of Denholm, but there isn't much intensity about the team and our attacks don't look very well drilled. Forrest just sticks his head down and drives until he loses the ball. I'm looking forward to seeing some changes over the summer. We cannot afford to be a 45 minute team or the team that starts nigh on every game 2nd best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 38 minutes ago, OTT said: We cannot keep only turning up when we're behind. I'm sick of it, its unprofessional. Start the game with fire, aim to go ahead and stop being so ****ing passive.. you cannot chuck 45+ minutes and expect to get the results you want. In Europe we will get ****ing diddled if we try that shit. Yup, in Europe, if we come wandering in to start work 45 minutes late? We are going to get our arses handed to us on a tray at the end of the game. In fact, this is exactly what I expect will happen in the SF if we don’t buck ourselves up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 We’re doing okay,imagine if we had an actual midfield.Pollock will make a huge difference when he’s fir but Denholm isn’t good enough = get rid. Tait should be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 47 minutes ago, Badonde said: He’s rubbish Look in the mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, stevie said: We’re doing okay,imagine if we had an actual midfield.Pollock will make a huge difference when he’s fir but Denholm isn’t good enough = get rid. Tait should be starting. We had 2 attacking midfielders on the bench - Fraser & Grant. Tait is a holding mid, Denholm looks a bit of an allrounder and Pollock hasn't played enough to be talked about in terms that he could be relied on to make a difference. I'm actually a little annoyed with Naismith for doing that. Denholm had no business starting today and we've thrown 3 points away because we had absolutely no meaningful link up between our midfield and attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Your being a bit harsh on Clark for the first goal he made a decent save at first it's not his fault Sibbick switches off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Yep, we only play well for one half it seems. It's been the case for most of the season, which is worrying. I'm going to say it, but has Shankland been carrying us? I dare to think where we would be without his goals. Probably bottom 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, OTT said: We had 2 attacking midfielders on the bench - Fraser & Grant. Tait is a holding mid, Denholm looks a bit of an allrounder and Pollock hasn't played enough to be talked about in terms that he could be relied on to make a difference. I'm actually a little annoyed with Naismith for doing that. Denholm had no business starting today and we've thrown 3 points away because we had absolutely no meaningful link up between our midfield and attack. We’ve often had no meaningful link up play even when our best midfielders have played. Not to detract from your point about todays shitshow in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, lmc1 said: No one was great today but my god Atkinson and Denholm 🙈 so poor and no quality. Gordon should also be playing. Correct about Gordon. He is the best keeper we have and should be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: 3s all round, including the manager. Ref -3. Agree 💯 Maybe -3 Atkinson too tho Edited March 16 by ShedBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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