Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Smithian said: Everyone knows exactly why Israel plays in UEFA. You know the Asian football federation expelled them and you know why. What point are you trying to make? Or did you not know they were expelled over their objections? see previous post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Tiddlers History for beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Bones Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 02/03/2024 at 20:36, Dunks said: Nothing wrong with Celtic fans supporting Palestine. Nothing wrong with Abada not wanting to play for Celtic. Nothing story. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He Who Cannot Be Named Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, HMFC 86 said: Arsehole post…you’d be more at home at Parkhead no Are you a fan of Zionism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The game on Sunday had just started and the Celtic fans started an IRA song. Could the link that the media ignores be the supply of from certain Arab organisations /countries that supplied arms to the IRA. Time to ban politics and religion from football grounds. Make clubs close sections of their stadiums. Inform clubs that if their fans continue with misbehaviour of any kind at away grounds their allocation of tickets will be reduced or even stopped. Make the point that The Scottish Football Association and the Scottish Football Leagues are united and are signed up to this cause of ending the disease that has infected our game for far too long. If and when there are clubs owners, football fans, newspapers, politicians or personality’s come out against these measures then let them be outed and shamed. Oh this will never happen I accept that and it’s a shame our kids, youngsters and future of our game will never be free from the hate that is in our game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: That’s really interesting jamboinglasgow. I had always assumed it was at Israel’s behest but clearly it was a because of a boycott. Point stands that politics were at play Interesting that you made that assumption, when I made the exact opposite assumption. But then, I was not basing my assumption on prejudice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 35 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Interesting that you made that assumption, when I made the exact opposite assumption. But then, I was not basing my assumption on prejudice... Here’s me thinking you were making good points. Your implication is that you are accusing me of prejudice. That is not only wrong but outrageous given the subject matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Is it ok to hate Jews AND the green brigade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, John Findlay said: I suggest you look at an Atlas. The reason they play football in Europe is that their safety of players and staff cannot be guaranteed in Arab countries. It isn't just about safety - Israeli citizens simply aren't allowed in to most of the countries surrounding them. It just isn't practical to do it any other way given the politics of the region. Visa requirements for Israeli citizens - Wikipedia Edited March 5 by WheatfieldWarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Here’s me thinking you were making good points. Your implication is that you are accusing me of prejudice. That is not only wrong but outrageous given the subject matter. Well you know, if the shoe fits... You are loudly supporting the Green Brigade who opted to support the Palestinian cause who just happened to train and divert weapons to their favourite Irish freedom fighters. I didn't see the Green Brigade support Israel in the immediate aftermath of 7th October...Nope they only got the banners out after the Israeli response. People who pick sides in this manner tend to be prejudiced in my experience... If I had been you I'd have made sure I understood the history of that region before I gave support so vocally to one side or the other, let alone the Green Brigade (as I'd hope you'd at least know their leanings)... Edited March 5 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Is it ok to hate Jews AND the green brigade? Hershel Goldman, Green Brigade treasurer, says, “יאָ”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Well you know, if the shoe fits... You are loudly supporting the Green Brigade who opted to support the Palestinian cause who just happened to train and divert weapons to their favourite Irish freedom fighters. I didn't see the Green Brigade support Israel in the immediate aftermath of 7th October...Nope they only got the banners out after the Israeli response. People who pick sides in this manner tend to be prejudiced in my experience... If I had been you I'd have made sure I understood the history of that region before I gave support so vocally to one side or the other, let alone the Green Brigade (as I'd hope you'd at least know their leanings)... Such an arrogant and callous response. To you it’s about picking sides. Me, it’s about basic humanity and being affected watching the bombs drop on 30,000 innocent civilians. The highlighted paragraph is a textbook example of pre-judgment where you just assume anyone with a different view to you is prejudiced. And I’m fairly confident from your responses that I know a lot more about the history of Israel and Palestine than you do thanks very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 15 hours ago, John Findlay said: I suggest you look at an Atlas. The reason they play football in Europe is that their safety of players and staff cannot be guaranteed in Arab countries. I will repeat this and nauseum There are no good guys in the middle east. Israel are in the wrong, and so are the Arab states that want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. No winners, only losers. As for the Green Brigade, your damn right they support Hamas. If, you think otherwise then you are very naive or stupid, or perhaps even both. He was right though when he said the reason was political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Such an arrogant and callous response. To you it’s about picking sides. Me, it’s about basic humanity and being affected watching the bombs drop on 30,000 innocent civilians. The highlighted paragraph is a textbook example of pre-judgment where you just assume anyone with a different view to you is prejudiced. And I’m fairly confident from your responses that I know a lot more about the history of Israel an Palestine than you do thanks very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: Hershel Goldman, Green Brigade treasurer, says, “יאָ”. I'm just glad that we've got the green brigade and the Kickback Fifth Column to keep the rest of our moral compasses straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said: I'm just glad that we've got the green brigade and the Kickback Fifth Column to keep the rest of our moral compasses straight. Jhambos Khickbhack 😶🌫️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Such an arrogant and callous response. To you it’s about picking sides. Me, it’s about basic humanity and being affected watching the bombs drop on 30,000 innocent civilians. The highlighted paragraph is a textbook example of pre-judgment where you just assume anyone with a different view to you is prejudiced. And I’m fairly confident from your responses that I know a lot more about the history of Israel and Palestine than you do thanks very much I don't have a view on the Israel/Palestine. It is their problem and I sure cannot fix it for them...Keeping out of other people's arguments is neither callous nor arrogant. I would say it is arrogant to take sides based on a limited understanding of the problem though... I was merely observing that you appeared to have taken a side but don't appear to have much knowledge of the situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Spellczech said: I was merely observing that you appeared to have taken a side but don't appear to have much knowledge of the situation... To repeat, I don’t take sides. That’s intellectually lazy. But, sadly, that’s the way a lot of people choose to look at complex situations. Making snap assumptions about others who think differently, and mocking them for what you imagine or project their weakness to be, doesn’t make you correct or smart. Quite the opposite. l am, however appalled by the capacity human beings have for cruelty and the ease with which they can order the bombing of innocent people. No matter what their belief system is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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