GBJambo Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, ShedBoy said: well 👀 well 👀 well 👀 who’d have thought it He doesn’t . Only 5 he’s had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, John Findlay said: He doesn't. Yep 👍 miscounted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 So "they" didnt get him banned for next week, "they" havent got him suspended for the next Sellick game and "they" couldnt stop us winning the last Celtic game... "They" arent very good at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 FFS GBJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Shankland got booked for winning the ball with an exceptionally clean tackle. Must be a new rule that nobody is aware of. The GFA are aware - cheats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Dissent? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJ Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Absolute nonsense booking. Shanks just wins the ball and the Well player jumps in the air and screams. He's then jumped up back to his feet when he gets the foul. Sadly, we can't appeal the yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 We have the OF coming up, he needs to be suspended. Expect a red soon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Brick Tamland said: https://x.com/kd_corona/status/1758876922942046358?s=46 Terrible decision by referee Holy ****. That’s even more laughable than I thought it was at the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threebs Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, PaddysBar said: Only for diving or mistaken identity Must be mistaken identity. Turns out the boy in black wasn’t a referee at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gar jambo Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Threebs said: Must be mistaken identity. Turns out the boy in black wasn’t a referee at all It will get recinded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Yes we have no ban on us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 12 hours ago, been here before said: Didnt look like a foul at the game and it cerialy isnt a foul in the clip I've seen... ...nor was it part of some lunatic conspiracy Just shite refereeing. Nothing more than contrarianism to deny the patently obvious conflict of interest in a Glasgow-based institution operated by fans of a Glasgow-duopoly, overseeing national tournaments strangled to death by said Glasgow-duopoly. With staggeringly low statistics of penalty kicks awarded against them, and a significantly higher average rate of fouls per booking applied to their players, and historic referee comments such as “we have to referee the old firm games differently”, no number of high school-esque emojies will gaslight intelligent folk into thinking Scottish football is fair. Edited February 18 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, Hearts_fan said: Nothing more than contrarianism to deny the patently obvious conflict of interest in a Glasgow-based institution operated by fans of a Glasgow-duopoly, overseeing national tournaments strangled to death by said Glasgow-duopoly. With staggering low statistics of penalty kicks awarded against them, and a significantly higher average rate of bookings per foul applied to their players, and historic referee comments such as “we have to referee the old firm games differently”, no number of high school-esque emojies will gaslight intelligent folk into thinking Scottish football is fair. Good post with logical reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Just watched I-player. Beautiful tackle - doesn’t touch the m’well player. That’s the frustrating thing with appeal process. Clear mistake by ref (it happens), but could so easily be rectified. All a bit daft really that stuff like this isn’t implemented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: Nothing more than contrarianism to deny the patently obvious conflict of interest in a Glasgow-based institution operated by fans of a Glasgow-duopoly, overseeing national tournaments strangled to death by said Glasgow-duopoly. With staggeringly low statistics of penalty kicks awarded against them, and a significantly higher average rate of fouls per booking applied to their players, and historic referee comments such as “we have to referee the old firm games differently”, no number of high school-esque emojies will gaslight intelligent folk into thinking Scottish football is fair. Absolutely none of that has anything to do with my reply to the "they want him out for next week" conspiracy. And no amount of teenage angst riddled hyperbole will gaslight anyone who can follow a thread into thinking that it does. Edited February 18 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 This from the BBC match report is just a blatant lie! "Hearts continued to press down the flanks, but struggled to create openings for Shankland, who earned a yellow card for an attempt to take the ball which took Motherwell's Jack Vale with it." Shankland clearly played the ball in totally fair manner and then Vale collided with Shankland... do they just make things up to as to exonerate terrible reffereeing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Hearts_fan said: Nothing more than contrarianism to deny the patently obvious conflict of interest in a Glasgow-based institution operated by fans of a Glasgow-duopoly, overseeing national tournaments strangled to death by said Glasgow-duopoly. With staggeringly low statistics of penalty kicks awarded against them, and a significantly higher average rate of fouls per booking applied to their players, and historic referee comments such as “we have to referee the old firm games differently”, no number of high school-esque emojies will gaslight intelligent folk into thinking Scottish football is fair. Statistics from Celtic v Kilmarnock yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Statistics from Celtic v Kilmarnock yesterday. Quite. 12 Celtic fouls, 0 bookings. 8 Killie fouls, 3 bookings. There is a two-tier approach to officiating top-flight games, it is transparently obvious, whether one chooses to see it as intentional or not. Two standards of refereeing are at play, one is more lenient and applied to Celtic and rangers players, the other deployed in both obviously harsh and subtly harsh ways to the other teams. The harsh system is applied severely in moments when serving the interests of Celtic and rangers is critical, for example obscure yellow cards given to key players for us early in matches against them, with fewer or similar numbers of yellows issued to them later in games once their victory is assured. Edited February 18 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Can we appeal the yellow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Go for it 1308 said: Can we appeal the yellow? Surely we should ask the question irrespective. It’s a ridiculous and wrong decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, HMFC 86 said: Surely we should ask the question irrespective. It’s a ridiculous and wrong decision We've got to appeal it if we can....he'll missthe phucking celtic game!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 What a joke of a decision. I didn't even think it was a foul at the time but on watching it on the highlights it was as clean a tackle as you could wish for. I've no idea if we can appeal this or not but if we can then we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, Go for it 1308 said: We've got to appeal it if we can....he'll missthe phucking celtic game!! He's not missing any games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 7 minutes ago, John Findlay said: He's not missing any games. Cheers mate 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 They want his bookings to tot up to get a suspension. It's as simple as that and also as corrupt as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lossiemouth Jambo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It wasn't even a tackle! A loose ball in which 2 players are trying to get to it first. Shankland does get there first, by a mile and then the 2 players collide after the ball is hoofed upfield. Its a footballing coming together that should have been play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Can you appeal YCs as that was a fecking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It was as bad a decision as that clown, Don Robertson, giving him a second yellow at Easter Road in the 3-0 cup tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, jock _turd said: This from the BBC match report is just a blatant lie! "Hearts continued to press down the flanks, but struggled to create openings for Shankland, who earned a yellow card for an attempt to take the ball which took Motherwell's Jack Vale with it." Shankland clearly played the ball in totally fair manner and then Vale collided with Shankland... do they just make things up to as to exonerate terrible reffereeing ? Ansered your own question in one sentence Jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 How many more yellows does he need for a ban? Is there a risk he will be banned for the derby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goalscoring Knee Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 He's been booked five times in the league - 1 more triggers a ban "Effective from 14th day Accumulation of six cautionable offences, one match suspension following date of match in the same competition group", according to the SFA. So even if he picked up booking against Rangers, he'd be free to play against Hibs and Celtic and the ban would only kick in for the Ross County game. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Another ass hole official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboBoy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Not even a foul never mind a booking. I was in the Gorgie stand and could see it clearly so how can a ref only yards away get it so badly wrong? Of course the swan dive by the Motherwell player didn’t help either - pathetic quite frankly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Hearts_fan said: Quite. 12 Celtic fouls, 0 bookings. 8 Killie fouls, 3 bookings. There is a two-tier approach to officiating top-flight games, it is transparently obvious, whether one chooses to see it as intentional or not. Two standards of refereeing are at play, one is more lenient and applied to Celtic and rangers players, the other deployed in both obviously harsh and subtly harsh ways to the other teams. The harsh system is applied severely in moments when serving the interests of Celtic and rangers is critical, for example obscure yellow cards given to key players for us early in matches against them, with fewer or similar numbers of yellows issued to them later in games once their victory is assured. If a Rangers or Celtic player makes that challenge it would never be a foul. That's the frustrating part. And it's not paranoia, just fact that they are allowed to do things other teams can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Just seen this again today. Only explanation is the ref had him on his bet builder to get a yellow. Never in a million years was that a yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, The Goalscoring Knee said: He's been booked five times in the league - 1 more triggers a ban "Effective from 14th day Accumulation of six cautionable offences, one match suspension following date of match in the same competition group", according to the SFA. So even if he picked up booking against Rangers, he'd be free to play against Hibs and Celtic and the ban would only kick in for the Ross County game. Is that right? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, The Goalscoring Knee said: He's been booked five times in the league - 1 more triggers a ban "Effective from 14th day Accumulation of six cautionable offences, one match suspension following date of match in the same competition group", according to the SFA. So even if he picked up booking against Rangers, he'd be free to play against Hibs and Celtic and the ban would only kick in for the Ross County game. Is that right? This has already been mentioned on another thread, but Shanks would need to be booked a further 7 times before he would get a 2 game ban. Once we've reached the halfway point in the league(19 games), the threshold becomes 12 yellows instead of 6, but with a 2 game ban. Owen Beck is a good example of this. He got his 6th yellow on 30/01, which was Dundee's 22nd league game..... That's more than 14 days ago, but was playing yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goalscoring Knee Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 32 minutes ago, Benny Factor said: This has already been mentioned on another thread, but Shanks would need to be booked a further 7 times before he would get a 2 game ban. Once we've reached the halfway point in the league(19 games), the threshold becomes 12 yellows instead of 6, but with a 2 game ban. Owen Beck is a good example of this. He got his 6th yellow on 30/01, which was Dundee's 22nd league game..... That's more than 14 days ago, but was playing yesterday. 👍 Cheers. (missed the other thread discussion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goalscoring Knee Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 51 minutes ago, cookieboy said: 3 hours ago, The Goalscoring Knee said: He's been booked five times in the league - 1 more triggers a ban "Effective from 14th day Accumulation of six cautionable offences, one match suspension following date of match in the same competition group", according to the SFA. So even if he picked up booking against Rangers, he'd be free to play against Hibs and Celtic and the ban would only kick in for the Ross County game. Is that right? yes 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 21 hours ago, Canscot said: Clean win of the ball. Motherwell player came in late. Ball was long gone. Never a foul. Obscene that he was booked for that. Exactly he kicked ball then Motherwell player came in and made contact. It wasn't actually a tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, indianajones said: How many more yellows does he need for a ban? Is there a risk he will be banned for the derby? He has 5 and on a 6th he will get a 1 game ban 14 days after the 6th suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf (scottishfa.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 That’s the worst booking I’ve seen and that’s saying something. Surely to god that’s wiped. Thought it was harsh at the game but Jesus that’s a different level watching it on video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The cynic in me is thinking the referee knew exactly what game he would miss if he booked him as he couldn’t bloody wait to flash the card at him for a nothing challenge which was the cleanest tackle you’ll ever see, I’m guessing the man in black usually wears green and white hoops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 18 minutes ago, By The Light.. said: He has 5 and on a 6th he will get a 1 game ban 14 days after the 6th suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf (scottishfa.co.uk) So nothing to worry about then? Excellent. Unless a red of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, indianajones said: So nothing to worry about then? Excellent. Unless a red of course... Good chance he will get another yellow before the end of season though so miss a game hopefully once we have 3rd sewn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, By The Light.. said: He has 5 and on a 6th he will get a 1 game ban 14 days after the 6th suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf (scottishfa.co.uk) No he won’t. He needs 12 bookings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 17/02/2024 at 20:10, Armageddon said: You can guarantee Shankland gets booked for nothing against Hibs meaning he will have to serve a ban v Celtic 😂 GFA shitebags Is he one booking away from a suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Is he one booking away from a suspension? Sorry just caught up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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