US and UK bombing Yemen

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, Ked said:

Be nice if you read it first.

Didn't see mufti anywhere.

 

jfk posts like this on American politics thread.

 

I disagree with vehement views. 

But his post here is hard to criticise.

So what is it you find about his post worth criticising if you didn't get beyond a word that wasn't in it?

You clearly didn’t read it 

[Ked]

Just now, JudyJudyJudy said:

“presume everybody will recognise Hitler, but few if any will recognise Haj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem who was a Palestinian leader meeting with Hitler in late 1941. “ 

Yes.

Why did you stop at that ?

[Ked]

Just now, JudyJudyJudy said:

You clearly didn’t read it 

I actually did.

Which I often don't do with jfk.

 

Why did you stop reading at that point?

[JudyJudyJudy]

9 minutes ago, Ked said:

I actually did.

Which I often don't do with jfk.

 

Why did you stop reading at that point?

So why didn’t you note “ mufti” then.  ? 

[ArcticJambo]

Are they back in the stone age yet?

[XB52]

10 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

There are useful idiots the Iranian Mullahs have been toying with like puppets ever since the revolution, and have become masters of it in the age of the internet as have Russia. And to me in the age of mass information their ignorance is baffling.

 

You will see Israel called an apartheid state and those who parrot it have accepted that with not a thought, isn't this strangely what an Iranian mullah or just a plain old anti Semite might say?

Regarding that here are some actual statistics of Israeli society within a quote from an article titled 'No, Israel Is Not an Apartheid State' which I will provide a link to.

 

 

It's the only democracy in the middle east and I expect that would be hard for any small nation but especially so the Jews and it's nothing whatsoever to do with Palestinians which people truly need to grasp. Muslims have despised the Jews almost since the beginning a little over 1,400 years ago.

And talking of how small it is again most probably don't even know.

 

 

See it in there surrounded by that vast expanse of land occupied by Arabs? And people seriously believe that's what this is about? And what were an initial 700K displaced Palestinians due to various reasons.

And incidentally in passing to demonstrate among other things that this isn't some sort of anti Islam diatribe, the Christians have been little better in anti Semitism, in fact they're the current record holders when it comes to trying to wipe out the Jews.

 

And here's another thing many many not know of.

 

 
I presume everybody will recognise Hitler, but few if any will recognise Haj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem who was a Palestinian leader meeting with Hitler in late 1941. 

I will paste just a short quote from the wiki article about him under the Holocaust. It's expansive this is just a taste.

 

 

He was if anything even more enraptured with the genocide of the Jews than the Nazis. That was before Israel existed, NOBODY was displaced. 

 

The Mufti Al-Husseini meeting with Muslim volunteers, including the Azerbaijani Legion, at the opening of the Islamic Central Institute in Berlin on 18 December 1942, during the Muslim festival Eid al-Adha.

It's things like that that make the accusations of genocide against Israel all the more pathetic. If they wanted to genocide them they're doing a piss poor job of it given their capabilities, it's the height of sheepdom for want of a better term. 

So that last pic is from 1942, we know he's gloating like crazy that millions of the Jews are dead. Then even when it's all over and the Nazi's lost he's still delighted that 30% of all Jews were up in smoke,

And anybody thinks that attitude had changed just a few years later when Israel was created by UN mandate? Of course not his attitude became the societies attitude, and it's never changed.

Following WW2 there were 12 million displaced people, also for a variety of reasons including shifting borders. There were none within a few years. Because we had no desire nor motive to maintain it eternally. These people do and that's why this has been dragging on for 75 bloody years. In an area that's vastly 

Think about the utter insanity for this tiny scrap in that vast ocean of land that's bigger than western Europe. This is no different to that WW2 movement of people and the reason for that isn't Palestinians, it's because they simply refuse to let Israel exist.  Period.

And they openly call for the genocide of the Jews while mullah led sheep throw genocide at Israel. What do you think "Palestine will be free from the river to the sea" means?

Well here's what it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean let's all be friends and exist with a two sate solution. It means Israel is wiped from the map and ideally the population with it. It's in the Hams charter that their reason for existing is to wipe our the Jews FFS, even the Nazis didn't broadcast it.

On day one of Israel's existence they were around 700,000 Jews who were attacked by a coalition of 5 Arab armies and the Jews fought them to a standstill or Israel would have been strangled at birth, This was the major reason for a mass movement of people fast. That's what happens, look at Ukraine.

And since day one this has been never ending, because it began with a mentality of kill the Jews. How many times do they need to say it before it sinks in they mean it? And this is endemic in Arab and Islamic societies, and I have personal experience of that in an unusual way.

You see I too once fell for some level of the anti Israeli sentiment which is riddled through western societies too, anti Semitism is more rampant than anytime since the 1930's, indisputable. And I sort of went for it because I had little avenue to research it myself.

Then came the internet and a sudden flood of access to masses of information. I had a PC in the mid 90's when they were rare in the home and had been on the net for years before it became common place which was different from now.

 

At first the internet was like totally empty in a way in comparison to now, it was when domain squatting as it was called began because the internet was so small even industry like BMW Marks and Spencer whatever you like hadn't got into it. Not even the TV channels. Some people saw what was coming and were buying up things like BMW.com

 

But what was available was message board like things where people could communicate and discuss a topic while some of these folks could provide links to all manner of educational material, the universities is where the net was born keep in mind and a large proportion of users were still academics.

 

I began to discover things like actual historical facts which totally contradicted claims critical of Israel I had seen before, and it occurred to me that I had been believing stuff without any accreditable confirmation.

 

A magazine or news article written by some journalist I don't know anything about isn't confirmation of anything unless i can research what they're saying.

Then when I could it became ever clearer western societies as well as Islamic had been so riddled by Jew hatred for so long that western societies have always been and still are permeated by anti Semitism to a staggering degree.

If I were a Jew I would always be worried anywhere in the world for not just my own future but the future of my entire kind. When people have forever been saying we want to genocide you and yours, and have already tried to do it, believe them. It's not a passing phase.

 

While I had been more sympathetic to the critics of Israel I had never for a moment believed the holocaust was a hoax, nor any of the countless Jewish blood libels such as protocols of the elders of Zion. I think the reason for that is I was never an anti Semite, just somebody who wanted to know facts.

 

 

There are people who will either knowingly or willfully/ignorantly believe anything that suits a narrative of hating the Jews.  Or say they believe it, think US election deniers. They will refute irrefutable evidence that something they believe is entirely fabricated.

 

I think I didn't give a shred of credibility to any of the libels because to me it was so obviously ludicrous, and so obviously something a Nazi for one would say. But still I was falling for the subtle critiques of Israel, and the majority were fabricated, as are the majority to this day. When even in the age of the internet people fall for it, or say they do. Because they hate Jews, end of, even if there were no Israel. 

 

Also consider this, anti Semitism isn't new, it's had millennia to brew and millennia in which the Jews had no homeland. And for millennia there have been anti Jewish pogroms because they had no place to run to when these pogroms occurred. 

 

 

See how tiny that little sliver is surrounded by Islamic countries where Jew hatred, not Israeli hatred, 100% Jew hatred is just an accepted societal norm. To the extent that if you openly don't go along with it you would be seen as suspect. How can you not hate the Jews? And it's they who should step aside at the fringes of that gigantic land mass to accommodate what? Palestinians?

 

Palestinians aren't an ethnicity, nor a culture, there is no Palestinian language, never been any Palestinian kings, emperors, prime ministers whatever. No Palestinian currency, nothing. Have never been a nation state or specific cultural group, they're Arabs like all the other neighbouring states.

 

And these Jews who actually are an ethnic culture with their won language and much more must give up their nation which was granted to them by UN charter to accommodate Arabs? Who would live no different a life than they would in say Jordan? And in fact prior to claiming they should be a nation, that IS what they were. Jordanians. Let's make sure the Jews never have a safe haven anywhere? Well I can say that part is indeed a dream of most Arabs. Even more than that, you think Jews are loved in Pakistan for just one?

 

 

In the late 90's as the internet began to grow the message boards were largely outmoded by what became chatrooms which had text and voice too and I ended up spending a lot of time in yahoo chatrooms which began around 1998 and carried on till 2012. I don't think there's anything like it now, it was anarchic.

The chatrooms were categorised, there were countless topics and while I wasn't remotely religious I had discovered more about the history of Israel recently and on an impulse went into an Islamic chatroom where I became what they called a lurker. The regulars in this specific room would see this identity in the chatroom who never typed anything and never responded to any attempt at interaction.

After a while this silent lurker just becomes a joke and almost invisible to them, and while they become themselves as if i'm not there I silently watch them for years. They were from around the world, a lot of Arabs and Pakistanis but I could understand them because they were almost all speaking English. This was the early days of the internet, most western people still didn't have it far less anybody else.

The reason they spoke English was because they were the upper classes of Islamic nations, the elite want their kids to speak English because it's the most useful foreign language to learn. An example of how elite some were is I heard a Kuwaiti girl say that when Saddam invaded her father was a target for the Iraqi's as an important man. Most of the Pakistani ones were in exclusive areas behind gates. 

And these well educated multi lingual well off kids of the Islamic elite hated Jews with a passion, and weren't afraid to say it. Hitler worship was open, they loved Nazi jokes, being critical of Hitler would be like heresy. What do you think the masses in nations where that's what the educated spout are going to be like?

And getting back to genociding the Jews. Since day one their nightmare has been being over-run by Arab armies, because if they were they know exactly what would happen. A gigantic nationwide October 7th would happen and they know it. And I know it. Once more, how many times do they need to say it?

Do Hamas need to make a second charter before people will believe it? Didn't they prove it on October 7th? That's what it's all about, kill the Jews. And it's not even typical warfare killing, it's sheer barbarism slaughtering men women and children, babies.

And people want to make a ceasefire with that? What does that mean? Well it just means same old same old. rocket bombardment, any type of attack we can get in and prepare for another biggie. Hope lots of ours are killed when the Israelis retaliate.

 

War is shit, no one wants it, or no one sane does. But sometimes it's unavoidable, we had To fight Hitler and this group are worse than the Nazis. Even the Nazis wouldn't have gloried in their type of medieval barbarism. But they too used their own people as human shields at the end.

 

 

Bloody hell. You should get a job in the Israeli government as propaganda minister; what a pile of utter shite to try and justify the actions of the Zionist extremists. We seeing you live in the US where blind support for Israel is the done thing.

[Debut 4]

5 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Bloody hell. You should get a job in the Israeli government as propaganda minister; what a pile of utter shite to try and justify the actions of the Zionist extremists. We seeing you live in the US where blind support for Israel is the done thing.

I didn’t read it all but was a large point of the article not about the history being far more deep rooted and at the heart of the problem rather than more recent history which is selected to suit a particular narrative?

 

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

5 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Too much kerosene soaked oregano in the pipe type posting imo👍

 

I thought that was meant to relax you, broaden your perspective?

 

3 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Is he still on Twitter harassing Jewish celebrities with anti semitic tweets, and lying about having relatives who were Holocaust survivors?

Halcyon days for JKB ☹️

[Tazio]

10 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Bloody hell. You should get a job in the Israeli government as propaganda minister; what a pile of utter shite to try and justify the actions of the Zionist extremists. We seeing you live in the US where blind support for Israel is the done thing.

 

1 minute ago, Debut 4 said:

I didn’t read it all but was a large point of the article not about the history being far more deep rooted and at the heart of the problem rather than more recent history which is selected to suit a particular narrative?

 

 

 

Careful now lads, you’ll be getting your lack of intelligence pointed out to you in brusque terms. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

16 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

I thought that was meant to relax you, broaden your perspective?

 

 

Not whatever his dealer is laying on him. He'll end up like poor Zammo. Pan bread in trap one of of some pishy bog. Overdosed snorting cannabis. Using dirty needles to inject his hashish. 

 

15 minutes ago, Tazio said:

 

Careful now lads, you’ll be getting your lack of intelligence pointed out to you in brusque terms. 

 

And with select words in BOLD UPPERCASE  to make sure you simpletons get the point.

 

 

Edited January 14 by il Duce McTarkin

[The Mighty Thor]

5 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Not whatever his dealer is laying on him. He'll end up like poor Zammo. Pan bread in trap one of of some pishy bog. Overdosed snorting cannabis. Using dirty needles to inject his hashish. 

[jack D and coke]

On 12/01/2024 at 21:33, Toxteth O'Grady said:

They are at the desperate stage and running out of potential wins. Pints of wine won’t cut it 

I don’t think you should ever count out how dumb this countries people are. 
The daily express and mail have been in overdrive again lately about the EU power grabs and WAR! 
The Brits just ****ing love it and will

vote accordingly. 
 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

5 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I don’t think you should ever count out how dumb this countries people are. 
The daily express and mail have been in overdrive again lately about the EU power grabs and WAR! 
The Brits just ****ing love it and will

vote accordingly. 
 

It will never surprised me - kicking off a war has worked (politically)  plenty times in the past. Thatcher and Blair are prime examples 

[jack D and coke]

3 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

It will never surprised me - kicking off a war has worked (politically)  plenty times in the past. Thatcher and Blair are prime examples 

Absolutely. Those papers too have done more damage to this country than is probably quantifiable. 

[That thing you do]

12 hours ago, Gizmo said:

 

Bir unfair mate, he was on fire before he left. 

True but we all remember that own goal with a wide open gaping goal. Said it was a right kick in the balls to miss 3 yards out.

[JFK-1]

17 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

You'll get nothing but daft responses because although what you have said is factually correct, it doesn't fit the desired narrative of the appeasers.

 

 

As you say it's simply facts, the body of it largely historical facts anybody can verify. I don't know if people think this rude of me, but I couldn't care less about a narrative anybody wants to believe that isn't factual. There are countless facts I don't like, I suppose I could try to pretend they don't exist but it wouldn't make it real.

 

I didn't like it when Santa was proven to be a fabrication, but I had to grow up, that's what accepting reality is about regardless of what anybody wants to believe.

Some are so invested in a fabrication, even as it's being proven to be false, others don't want to admit they were wrong, despite the fact that's infinitely dumber than simply being wrong. I like being proven wrong believe it or not, it means I learned something.

But as you can see nothing can critique that post, can't even attempt it. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

 

Batshit.

[Jeffros Furios]

2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

As you say it's simply facts, the body of it largely historical facts anybody can verify. I don't know if people think this rude of me, but I couldn't care less about a narrative anybody wants to believe that isn't factual. There are countless facts I don't like, I suppose I could try to pretend they don't exist but it wouldn't make it real.

 

I didn't like it when Santa was proven to be a fabrication, but I had to grow up, that's what accepting reality is about regardless of what anybody wants to believe.

Some are so invested in a fabrication, even as it's being proven to be false, others don't want to admit they were wrong, despite the fact that's infinitely dumber than simply being wrong. I like being proven wrong believe it or not, it means I learned something.

But as you can see nothing can critique that post, can't even attempt it. 

You should be deported back to Hamilton .

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Banter Claus

[Thunder and Lightning]

6 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

As you say it's simply facts, the body of it largely historical facts anybody can verify. I don't know if people think this rude of me, but I couldn't care less about a narrative anybody wants to believe that isn't factual. There are countless facts I don't like, I suppose I could try to pretend they don't exist but it wouldn't make it real.

 

I didn't like it when Santa was proven to be a fabrication, but I had to grow up, that's what accepting reality is about regardless of what anybody wants to believe.

Some are so invested in a fabrication, even as it's being proven to be false, others don't want to admit they were wrong, despite the fact that's infinitely dumber than simply being wrong. I like being proven wrong believe it or not, it means I learned something.

But as you can see nothing can critique that post, can't even attempt it. 

 

FFS man, put that in a spoiler. 🎅

[Mikey1874]

Problem solved yet?

[Mackem Midlothian]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

Problem solved yet?

 

Not yet.

[Mikey1874]

Statement from Sunak in Parliament. When he says he won't say there will be more strikes, that's because the US leads and was apparently very unhappy at Grant Snapps hinting at action the day before it happened last week. 

[Boab]

2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Statement from Sunak in Parliament. When he says he won't say there will be more strikes, that's because the US leads and was apparently very unhappy at Grant Snapps hinting at action the day before it happened last week. 

That’s because he is an idiot. Like most of the cabinet.

The yanks won’t make that mistake again. 

[Homme]

Could be twitter trash but I'm reading that Iran have tonight attacked US bases & claimed responsibility for it.

 

Let's see if there is anything to it. Potential escalation if true.

 

Edit - seems to be a US base in Iraq they fired at. Has happened before I'm sure.

Edited January 15 by Homme

[Tazio]

4 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Statement from Sunak in Parliament. When he says he won't say there will be more strikes, that's because the US leads and was apparently very unhappy at Grant Snapps hinting at action the day before it happened last week. 

Sharp’s press conference earlier was a car crash, he was talking as if we were surrounded by enemies about to invade. 

[Homme]

4 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Sharp’s press conference earlier was a car crash, he was talking as if we were surrounded by enemies about to invade. 

 

Shaaps is a prick. Fraction of the man Ben Wallace is.

[Sooks]

The UK is a ****ing disgusting wee servile unofficial state of the Theocracy Behemoth that is the United States of America

 

Basically a poodle 

[BlueRiver]

We should let terrorists operate with impunity in international shipping lanes imo. 

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

7 hours ago, Sooks said:

The UK is a ****ing disgusting wee servile unofficial state of the Theocracy Behemoth that is the United States of America

 

Basically a poodle 

 

You'll be hoping Trump gets in, withdraws the US from NATO, and adopts an isolationist policy, then.

I'm sure that the Russians and Chinese will be far more benevolent and expect far less from us when they inevitably move in to fill the void.

 

Edited January 16 by il Duce McTarkin

[The Mighty Thor]

7 hours ago, Sooks said:

The UK is a ****ing disgusting wee servile unofficial state of the Theocracy Behemoth that is the United States of America

 

Basically a poodle 

Global Britain. Great Nation.

 

Strutting around the world stage (behind Uncle Sam's petticoats) since the end of WWII.

 

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

Looks like the Sino-Ivans have nobbled Thor too. He'll be posting his anti-British diatribes in Cyrilic and Mandarin by this time next week.

[Boab]

1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

You'll be hoping Trump gets in, withdraws the US from NATO, and adopts an isolationist policy, then.

I'm sure that the Russians and Chinese will be far more benevolent and expect far less from us when they inevitably move in to fill the void.

 

There’s a square go coming, of that I have no doubt. If I was Biden, I’d go radge now if only to let those two above ponder a bit. 
Leave it till Trump gets in….how cuckoo are the yanks for this to be even contemplated…and we’re all ****ed !

[The Mighty Thor]

2 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

Looks like the Sino-Ivans have nobbled Thor too. He'll be posting his anti-British diatribes in Cyrilic and Mandarin by this time next week.

I can barely manage coherent English ☹️

[Mikey1874]

UK back in

 

 

[highlandjambo3]

We are wee puppy’s aren’t we.  US sends jets from its carrier strike group in the region…..we scramble 4 bombers and two refuel tankers for a 4000mile round trip…..the pilots will be like FFS…….🤬

 

Thats like ordering a deliveroo pizza from London 😂

[The Mighty Thor]

I see wee Rashid on the news chuntering on about 'not hesitating to act in self defence' 

 

Self defence is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting here.

[il Duce McTarkin]

We need more bombing Yemen imo

[the posh bit]

On 14/01/2024 at 12:35, Jeffros Furios said:

Slaver 

 

LOL 😂 

[Jeffros Furios]

2 minutes ago, the posh bit said:

 

LOL 😂 

Vincent ? 

[the posh bit]

1 minute ago, Jeffros Furios said:

Vincent ? 

 

 

 

[Mikey1874]

Not well enough then.

[His name is]

Twitter reporting that a brittish oil tanker has been hit with a missile of the coast of yeman. 

 

I can see things escalating.

[The Mighty Thor]

5 minutes ago, His name is said:

Twitter reporting that a brittish oil tanker has been hit with a missile of the coast of yeman. 

 

I can see things escalating.

Not by Britain. 

Wee Rashid will be on the blower to Uncle Joe looking for the yoo ess ayy to sort it out for him

[manaliveits105]

37 minutes ago, His name is said:

Twitter reporting that a brittish oil tanker has been hit with a missile of the coast of yeman. 

 

I can see things escalating.

Doesn't seem to be a British tanker the company it's operating for has offices worldwide including London but was started in Peru 

ship is registered in Marshall Islands 

[Mikey1874]

Working well the precision strikes taking out the Houthi missile capability.

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said:

Biden may need to start a real war somewhere to keep himself in office.

 

Watch out for the anti-Canada rhetoric to ramp up between now and November. And make sure Bud Boomer gets tix for an NHL match.

 

 

[Ulysses]

2 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said:

 

Trudeau in Guantanamo prison by late October.

 

Dead right too.

[The Mighty Thor]

Reports starting to emerge that the 'British' ship was carrying Russian petroleum product.

 

I thought Ivan was under embargo🤔

[luckyBatistuta]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Reports starting to emerge that the 'British' ship was carrying Russian petroleum product.

 

I thought Ivan was under embargo🤔

Wouldn’t be shocked in the least