Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hopefully got Offiah back for this one, I would go with: Clark Kent Rowles Kingsley Offiah Cochrane Devlin Nieuwenhof Forrest Vargas Shankland (C) To start with, bring on Beni and Oda later; don't expect Gordon to be back, but if he was on the bench, that'd be fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hearts nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, heartandsoul said: Hearts nil That's not what Dougie said 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 They have St Johnstone away on Tuesday night, presumably with Craig Levein in charge for his first game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors1874 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Play the b team or the ladies as they have more balls than the current bunch of losers in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Jambo Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2-0 Motherwell written all over it. Wee Naissy will blame ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Hopefully got Offiah back for this one, I would go with: Clark Kent Rowles Kingsley Offiah Cochrane Devlin Nieuwenhof Forrest Vargas Shankland (C) To start with, bring on Beni and Oda later; don't expect Gordon to be back, but if he was on the bench, that'd be fantastic Couldn't give a flying **** at this precise moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddiepolio3 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Must win game or that's the experiment over. Hopefully have lowry back. 2 nil Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Unlike most people (though I understand what people are saying) I see some positives. Looking at the other teams too, I'd make Hearts strong contenders, favourites even for third. Oda will improve the team once he's back starting. Tagawa too. I wanted Vargas dropped (for Sandilands) but he's done better and I liked how he linked up with Shankland today first half. Lowry starts for me though he may not be the answer as we go on. There are still questions about the defence though Kingsley, Rowles Kent doing alright. Need to sort out right back. Also whether 3 at back is option and when. 2-0 Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 433/451 Clark Kingsley, Kent, Rowles and Cochrane. Devlin, Grant, Lowry Forrest/Oda, Shankland and Vargas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Who even gives a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Wow- arseholes on here tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, Dusty said: 433/451 Clark Kingsley, Kent, Rowles and Cochrane. Devlin, Grant, Lowry Forrest/Oda, Shankland and Vargas. Kingsley at Right back 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott Leitch said: Kingsley at Right back 😂 Best option we’ve got there at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, Dusty said: Best option we’ve got there at the moment. No. Behave. How can he be the best option when he's never played there before? We just guessing now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Gordon Offiah Kent Rowles Cochrane Devlin Beningime Grant Oda Shankland Kirk Kirk is playing well, I believe he should be rewarded with a start. Lowry I'd give 30 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Did you watch the second half today when he was shunted over there for a while when Sibbick went off? Edited November 5, 2023 by Dusty Missing word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dusty said: Did you watch the second half today when he shunted over there for a while when Sibbick went off? 😂 Sibbick went off with what 25 to go? What did Kingsley do in that 25 to make you think he should play right back? Kingsley should be left back and at a push left side of a back 3. ****ing right back 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said: 😂 Sibbick went off with what 25 to go? What did Kingsley do in that 25 to make you think he should play right back? Kingsley should be left back and at a push left side of a back 3. ****ing right back 😆 I’ve no issue with him at left back or centre half either. He looked solid to me in that 25 minutes and had our best shot on goal during that time. And yes, he’s played there before. But hey, what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dusty said: I’ve no issue with him at left back or centre half either. He looked solid to me in that 25 minutes and had our best shot on goal during that time. And yes, he’s played there before. But hey, what do I know. That shot was going in too. Sibbick is alright I like him best in midfield though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dusty said: I’ve no issue with him at left back or centre half either. He looked solid to me in that 25 minutes and had our best shot on goal during that time. And yes, he’s played there before. But hey, what do I know. Can't recall him ever playing right back but if you think he can do a job then yeah let's do it. Suppose it can't be any worse than what's currently happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said: Can't recall him ever playing right back but if you think he can do a job then yeah let's do it. Suppose it can't be any worse than what's currently happening. Just seems a better set up than what we’ve got at the moment. 11 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: That shot was going in too. Sibbick is alright I like him best in midfield though Aye, Sibbick just seems low on confidence at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Eddiepolio3 said: Must win game or that's the experiment over. Hopefully have lowry back. 2 nil Hearts How many times are we going to say that this season? The experiment will probably go on until the end of the season. We don't make big changes like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 We will struggle imo, It's away from home, against a team who are desperate for points. Who no doubt will set up to frustrate us and hit on the counter, We will huff and puff but struggle to break them down, What could possibly go wrong? 2-0 Motherwell is a banker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Hopefully got Offiah back for this one, I would go with: Clark Kent Rowles Kingsley Offiah Cochrane Devlin Nieuwenhof Forrest Vargas Shankland (C) To start with, bring on Beni and Oda later; don't expect Gordon to be back, but if he was on the bench, that'd be fantastic Will likely be one of Forrest and Vargas (probably Vargas) and either Grant or Lowry play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Hopefully got Offiah back for this one, I would go with: Clark Kent Rowles Kingsley Offiah Cochrane Devlin Nieuwenhof Forrest Vargas Shankland (C) To start with, bring on Beni and Oda later; don't expect Gordon to be back, but if he was on the bench, that'd be fantastic I’d play Oda every day of the week before Forrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Will likely be one of Forrest and Vargas (probably Vargas) and either Grant or Lowry play. Lowry, of course, always one 🙂 If Kingsley and Offiah are ready, we're looking strong, Oda nearing a start too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Deviskan said: I’d play Oda every day of the week before Forrest. I think Oda will come on around 55 / 60 If so, Forrest will start, I reckon Lowry was cold against livi, so he'll start from bench, I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Lowry, of course, always one 🙂 If Kingsley and Offiah are ready, we're looking strong, Oda nearing a start too Feels like a big game. No slip ups in the next 2 and he has breathing space. Anything less and things will get away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, GinRummy said: Feels like a big game. No slip ups in the next 2 and he has breathing space. Anything less and things will get away from him. It is a big game, they won't be as defensive as livi, we need to be clinical, probably 2 goals needed Interesting that we can watch them tomorrow night first, no mercy, hope a barrowload of them miss Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Dusty said: 433/451 Clark Kingsley, Kent, Rowles and Cochrane. Devlin, Grant, Lowry Forrest/Oda, Shankland and Vargas. I think we will swap between 4 and 3 at the back if we need to; also, it forces them to re-evaluate, which takes time We can make hay while they do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaHmfc Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Scott Leitch said: Can't recall him ever playing right back but if you think he can do a job then yeah let's do it. Suppose it can't be any worse than what's currently happening. Kingsley played right back against Livi at home the other night for the entire 90 minutes and was probably one of our best players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Swap one of the midfielders for Grant/ Lowry & that team should beat Motherwell. Need creativity in the middle One thing though - midfield etc all got pelters for giving the ball away yesterday but for me the absolute biggest issue was the poor movement (or lack of movement) from Cochrane & Sibbick - the amount of times we had the opportunity to break past that high line & the 2 wingbacks didn’t make the run or stood off of Tavernier/Barisic instead of going in for the 2nd ball was so so so annoying & completely nullified any attacking intent we could have shown. The wingbacks are our width in this formation, they need to make the run & give the passer the opportunity to find them. If they’re not comfortable doing that then we need to play a back 4 with traditional wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, FionaHmfc said: Kingsley played right back against Livi at home the other night for the entire 90 minutes and was probably one of our best players He played right centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Motherwell in a dreadful run of form, can’t buy a result. Got home win all over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, FionaHmfc said: Kingsley played right back against Livi at home the other night for the entire 90 minutes and was probably one of our best players No he didn't. We played a back 3. He was right hand side of the 3. Completely different to a right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, boag1874 said: Swap one of the midfielders for Grant/ Lowry & that team should beat Motherwell. Need creativity in the middle One thing though - midfield etc all got pelters for giving the ball away yesterday but for me the absolute biggest issue was the poor movement (or lack of movement) from Cochrane & Sibbick - the amount of times we had the opportunity to break past that high line & the 2 wingbacks didn’t make the run or stood off of Tavernier/Barisic instead of going in for the 2nd ball was so so so annoying & completely nullified any attacking intent we could have shown. The wingbacks are our width in this formation, they need to make the run & give the passer the opportunity to find them. If they’re not comfortable doing that then we need to play a back 4 with traditional wingers. This! We had several chances to break forward but lost our shit once crossing the halfway line. Looked like we were feart or just didn't know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Motherwell 0-1 Heart of Midlothian Vargas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott980612 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Motherwell on a dreadful run of form. Their last win , 3 points at Tynecastle. Their next win……. Watch this space. A low scoring dreadful game of football , where either team nicks it by a goal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 nil Motherwell and Naismith will still be here 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) I'll probably cop flack for this. But one of the things I liked yesterday was our midfield. I know many like lowry but I actually thought that midfield 3 was a great mix. I thought grant had a good game and had a few good drives forward. When you consider the quality of the rangers midfield, they held there own until we lost the pen and had to open right up. I wouldn't personally be looking to sub any of them for lowry when, imo, they all played well and they're all our own players. Sibbick and Clark were the poor performers IMO. So would be happy to see the same again with maybe Offiah in at RB. Edited November 6, 2023 by bobby bombscare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, boag1874 said: Swap one of the midfielders for Grant/ Lowry & that team should beat Motherwell. Need creativity in the middle One thing though - midfield etc all got pelters for giving the ball away yesterday but for me the absolute biggest issue was the poor movement (or lack of movement) from Cochrane & Sibbick - the amount of times we had the opportunity to break past that high line & the 2 wingbacks didn’t make the run or stood off of Tavernier/Barisic instead of going in for the 2nd ball was so so so annoying & completely nullified any attacking intent we could have shown. The wingbacks are our width in this formation, they need to make the run & give the passer the opportunity to find them. If they’re not comfortable doing that then we need to play a back 4 with traditional wingers. Good points, the issue with a back four and wingers is we then set up with two centre mids, we need three imo. Bit of a tricky one tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaHmfc Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said: No he didn't. We played a back 3. He was right hand side of the 3. Completely different to a right back. We had him, Kent, Rowles and Cochrane. Nobody else played at the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Good points, the issue with a back four and wingers is we then set up with two centre mids, we need three imo. Bit of a tricky one tbh. Agree we need 3 for a better attack and it's the choice between Grant and Lowry, who'll probably share a half each or so, unless we are playing without an AM, or maybe they play LW, which Lowry is more natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FionaHmfc said: We had him, Kent, Rowles and Cochrane. Nobody else played at the back I believe Forrest was RWB, pal https://uk.soccerway.com/matches/2023/11/01/scotland/premier-league/heart-of-midlothian-fc/livingston-fc/4104487/ - Edited November 6, 2023 by Ricardo Quaresma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Don't play Sibbick and we will instantly improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaHmfc Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I believe Forrest was RWB, pal Fair enough. Definitely looked a 4231 from where I was sitting with Forrest on the wing, Boyce central and Lowry on the other wing. Certainly when Forrest went off, Oda seemed to be a like for like switch. Definitely wouldn’t say Oda was RWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, FionaHmfc said: Fair enough. Definitely looked a 4231 from where I was sitting with Forrest on the wing, Boyce central and Lowry on the other wing. Certainly when Forrest went off, Oda seemed to be a like for like switch. Definitely wouldn’t say Oda was RWB I think you're right that they were shifting around on that side and Kingsley was switching in and out of RWB as Forrest made darting runs 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Good points, the issue with a back four and wingers is we then set up with two centre mids, we need three imo. Bit of a tricky one tbh. Unless we go with a 4-3-3 & use 2 of Vargas/Oda/Forrest to provide width & pace either side of Shanks, best of both worlds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’s a must win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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