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Japan Jambo
5 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Tell that to XB52 and TRMb.


maybe easier with pictures 😬

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The Real Maroonblood
1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said:


maybe easier with pictures 😬

:greggy:

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JudyJudyJudy
4 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:


maybe easier with pictures 😬

😂😎

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Thunder and Lightning
3 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

:greggy:

Is he a right winger? What argument is he losing? 

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Diadora Van Basten
41 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

The so called war aims have been a complete failure.

 

Genocide and Ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian civilian population were always the real war aims and they have been partially achieved.

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Diadora Van Basten

Netanyahu has been on US TV calling student protests antisemitism and asking for them to be condemned.

 

The US speaker of the house who like the UK appears to have been bought and paid by Israel has said The National Guard should get involved in the student protests. In the 1970 when the national guard got involved in student protests students were killed.

 

An iDF soldier has confirmed that they regard all Palestinians as Hamas. He also said that some commanders in the IDF are settlers from the West Bank who believe in ethnic cleansing (this was the case with the World Kitchen killings of UK citizens).

 

The US has refused to join the calls by the UN to investigate the mass graves found at Gaza hospitals.

 

David Cameron approved arm sales to Israel whilst awaiting the result of Israel’s investigation into the World Kitchen killings.

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il Duce McTarkin
1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

Netanyahu has been on US TV calling student protests antisemitism and asking for them to be condemned.

 

The US speaker of the house who like the UK appears to have been bought and paid by Israel has said The National Guard should get involved in the student protests. In the 1970 when the national guard got involved in student protests students were killed.

 

An iDF soldier has confirmed that they regard all Palestinians as Hamas. He also said that some commanders in the IDF are settlers from the West Bank who believe in ethnic cleansing (this was the case with the World Kitchen killings of UK citizens).

 

The US has refused to join the calls by the UN to investigate the mass graves found at Gaza hospitals.

 

David Cameron approved arm sales to Israel whilst awaiting the result of Israel’s investigation into the World Kitchen killings.

 

Good stuff.

 

 

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HeartsandonlyHearts
7 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

Netanyahu has been on US TV calling student protests antisemitism and asking for them to be condemned.

 

The US speaker of the house who like the UK appears to have been bought and paid by Israel has said The National Guard should get involved in the student protests. In the 1970 when the national guard got involved in student protests students were killed.

 

An iDF soldier has confirmed that they regard all Palestinians as Hamas. He also said that some commanders in the IDF are settlers from the West Bank who believe in ethnic cleansing (this was the case with the World Kitchen killings of UK citizens).

 

The US has refused to join the calls by the UN to investigate the mass graves found at Gaza hospitals.

 

David Cameron approved arm sales to Israel whilst awaiting the result of Israel’s investigation into the World Kitchen killings.

What!! No video of said IDF soldier spewing his racist hate. So disappointing. It’s why I come on here. Without video proof it’s hard to take you serious. Time to raise your game.

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Diadora Van Basten
8 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said:

What!! No video of said IDF soldier spewing his racist hate. So disappointing. It’s why I come on here. Without video proof it’s hard to take you serious. Time to raise your game.

I know you are being facetious but here you go anyway. No racism for you unfortunately.

 

 

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On 24/04/2024 at 20:13, Boab said:

In my experience, people who are termed “ right-wing “ are people who are generally arseholes. The more right you go, the bigger the arsehole you are. 
In the context of this conflict, there are many arseholes but, confusingly for some, some are on the “ left “ side of the conflict.

 

Simply, it’s way to complicated to use right and left. Maybe that’s what our brains are telling us so we can comprehend it in our way of thinking.

 

You can’t !

Right wingers support Israel. People with a bit of humanity tend to side with the people being massacred. I certainly wouldn't call myself left wing, just a human being

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il Duce McTarkin
4 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Right wingers support Israel. People with a bit of humanity tend to side with the people being massacred. I certainly wouldn't call myself left wing, just a human being

 

So right wingers aren't quite the full human then. Sounds familiar.

 

:interehjrling:

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Diadora Van Basten

I would classify right wingers into two categories. Small c conservatives and Neocons. Small c conservatives like things to change slowly while Neocons are the war mongers who support Israel.

 

There are people who are right wing who don’t support Israel such as Alex Jones a well known right wing commentator in the US who called it a genocide something Bernie Sanders on the left wing has refused to call it a genocide.

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Gundermann
2 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

Christian Zionists :vrface:

 

 

 

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Diadora Van Basten
25 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

Another wrong-sort-of-Jew.

 

:clap:

 

 

She is spot on the narrative is false. 
 

couple of videos I watched:

1 Claims a Jewish student was stabbed in the eye by a Palestinian flag debunked (very funny).

2 The UK passed a law in March 2023 that the United Nations was biased against Israel and that Israel is not an apartheid state. 🫣

 

 

 

 

 

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il Duce McTarkin
1 hour ago, Gundermann said:

Another wrong-sort-of-Jew.

 

:clap:

 

 

 

6/10, would bang (as long as she didn't talk).

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Gundermann
22 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said:

It must be nice to have a general bogeyman you can blame all the world’s woes on. Saves having to think about things. 

 

He's spot on and I can't see him blaiming a bogeyman but there are many about - Russia, Syria, Iran, Saudi and for a lot of the world, inc in western Europe, the UK and the US.

 

And if really have to *think* about whether Israel's massacre of civilians is wrong... :facepalm:

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36 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

He's spot on and I can't see him blaiming a bogeyman but there are many about - Russia, Syria, Iran, Saudi and for a lot of the world, inc in western Europe, the UK and the US.

 

And if really have to *think* about whether Israel's massacre of civilians is wrong... :facepalm:

Imagine mentioning Israel in this thread and not the other murderous regimes around the world. Damn you for sticking to the topic

Actually damn me as I just noticed he was talking about my post😀😀

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il Duce McTarkin
47 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

He's spot on and I can't see him blaiming a bogeyman but there are many about - Russia, Syria, Iran, Saudi and for a lot of the world, inc in western Europe, the UK and the US.

 

And if really have to *think* about whether Israel's massacre of civilians is wrong... :facepalm:

 

:sob:

 

It's such a shitty, ****ed-up world, Gundy.

It might be better to have never been born.

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JudyJudyJudy
1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said:

It must be nice to have a general bogeyman you can blame all the world’s woes on. Saves having to think about things. 

Is he still going oan about “ right wingers “ ffs he’s obsessed 🤩 

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il Duce McTarkin
2 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said:

I was talking about his catch-all ‘right wingers’ mantra. Life is more complicated than splitting folk into good guys and bad guys. It appears that some folk can’t quite get past that stage. 

 

:sob:

 

Why do you have to make everything so difficult, Jim?

 

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Diadora Van Basten

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68909511
 

Rather than send British troops into Gaza to deliver aid. The UK should be reinstating it’s funding of UNWRA and putting sanctions on Israel if they continue to block aid.

 

I watched a holocaust survivor say that when the UK defunded UNRWA the main aid agency in Gaza they moved from facilitating Genocide to participating in Genocide.

 

He also said he was surprised when he went to Israel how racist the Jews who survived the holocaust were towards the Arab natives.

 

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Francis Albert
12 minutes ago, Chop said:

@Diadora Van Basten are you even aware that you're probably on some terrorist watchlist for your endless terrorist-sympathising posts? 

We can but hope.

Oh sorry that little joke

makes me an extreme right wing racist supporter of genocide.

 

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HeartsandonlyHearts
On 26/04/2024 at 13:58, Diadora Van Basten said:

I know you are being facetious but here you go anyway. No racism for you unfortunately.

 

 

“We’ll call him Jake”

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Mikey1874

I've had a look at reconstruction plans. If you want to look it up search for 'Palestinian Reconstruction Economic Partnership (Prep)' or 'David Prais' the Londoner involved. 

 

The Isrselis will hate it because it envisions Gaza as an independent economic and tourism powerhouse. But the US and others could force it on Israel. 

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Malinga the Swinga
26 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Don't see the connection but the guy is struggling 

 

 

There is no connection but on this occasion, he is right. The allies knew what was happening but stood back and watched. 

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2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

There is no connection but on this occasion, he is right. The allies knew what was happening but stood back and watched. 

 

They were a little bit busy at the time... 

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The pictures on Twitter are absolutely horrific. Bits and pieces of children. 

 

I don't think Israel will ever be forgiven for this. The governments and politicians they bribe and buy might, but the public will never forgive them. 

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/05/onslaught-violence-against-women-and-children-gaza-unacceptable-un-experts

 

“We are horrified at details emerging from mass graves recently unearthed in the Gaza Strip. Over 390 bodies have been discovered at Nasser and Al Shifa hospitals, including of women and children"

 

There should be a repeat of Nuremberg for these ****s. 

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il Duce McTarkin
34 minutes ago, OTT said:

There should be a repeat of Nuremberg for these ****s. 

 

Agreed. Crimes against humanity.

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7 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Agreed. Crimes against humanity.

 

I heard an absolutely heart breaking phone call from a wee lassie called Hind Rajab trapped in a car with her dead parents calling for help. She was then found dead in said car that was riddled with bullets. Moreover, the ambulance they sent to help her was blown up (presumably killing the poor souls sent to help). 

 

I don't know why, but the ambulance being blown up bothered me in a bit of a different way, its like they'd decided she didn't stand a chance, whoever they sent to help her was dying regardless because these people are utterly depraved. 

 

Thats 1 of over 14,000 children that have been murdered by Israel. 

 

Every time politicians talked about "Israel's right to defend itself" they paved the way for things to get to this point. 

 

Israel should be banned from every single European event. They are not European, no European country in the 21st century would behave like this. 

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HeartsandonlyHearts
2 hours ago, OTT said:

 

I heard an absolutely heart breaking phone call from a wee lassie called Hind Rajab trapped in a car with her dead parents calling for help. She was then found dead in said car that was riddled with bullets. Moreover, the ambulance they sent to help her was blown up (presumably killing the poor souls sent to help). 

 

I don't know why, but the ambulance being blown up bothered me in a bit of a different way, its like they'd decided she didn't stand a chance, whoever they sent to help her was dying regardless because these people are utterly depraved. 

 

Thats 1 of over 14,000 children that have been murdered by Israel. 

 

Every time politicians talked about "Israel's right to defend itself" they paved the way for things to get to this point. 

 

Israel should be banned from every single European event. They are not European, no European country in the 21st century would behave like this. 

What about the 20th century?

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Malinga the Swinga
10 hours ago, Life Aquatic said:

 

They were a little bit busy at the time... 

Persecution started in 1933. Blind eye was turned.

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Malinga the Swinga
8 hours ago, OTT said:

 

I heard an absolutely heart breaking phone call from a wee lassie called Hind Rajab trapped in a car with her dead parents calling for help. She was then found dead in said car that was riddled with bullets. Moreover, the ambulance they sent to help her was blown up (presumably killing the poor souls sent to help). 

 

I don't know why, but the ambulance being blown up bothered me in a bit of a different way, its like they'd decided she didn't stand a chance, whoever they sent to help her was dying regardless because these people are utterly depraved. 

 

Thats 1 of over 14,000 children that have been murdered by Israel. 

 

Every time politicians talked about "Israel's right to defend itself" they paved the way for things to get to this point. 

 

Israel should be banned from every single European event. They are not European, no European country in the 21st century would behave like this. 

Israel doesn't need to be banned from European events. It's not in Europe anyway so shouldn't even be involved in first place.

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30 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Not playing that game. Killing 14,000 children is inexcusable. 

I'm not saying this isn't true, but can I ask where you found out that Israel has killed 14,000 children? I dont know enough about the inner details of all this to feel I can form an opinion, but I've read a few bits on here stating things like the above, and, I'm genuinely curious where folk are finding out these facts?

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2 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said:

I'm not saying this isn't true, but can I ask where you found out that Israel has killed 14,000 children? I dont know enough about the inner details of all this to feel I can form an opinion, but I've read a few bits on here stating things like the above, and, I'm genuinely curious where folk are finding out these facts?

 

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/one-in-50-of-gaza-s-children-killed-or-injured-in-six-months-of-#:~:text=Since the 7 October attacks,Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/05/onslaught-violence-against-women-and-children-gaza-unacceptable-un-experts

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3 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said:

I'm not saying this isn't true, but can I ask where you found out that Israel has killed 14,000 children? I dont know enough about the inner details of all this to feel I can form an opinion, but I've read a few bits on here stating things like the above, and, I'm genuinely curious where folk are finding out these facts?

There's a thing called the internet where you can read news from around the world.

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11 hours ago, OTT said:

 

I heard an absolutely heart breaking phone call from a wee lassie called Hind Rajab trapped in a car with her dead parents calling for help. She was then found dead in said car that was riddled with bullets. Moreover, the ambulance they sent to help her was blown up (presumably killing the poor souls sent to help). 

 

I don't know why, but the ambulance being blown up bothered me in a bit of a different way, its like they'd decided she didn't stand a chance, whoever they sent to help her was dying regardless because these people are utterly depraved. 

 

Thats 1 of over 14,000 children that have been murdered by Israel. 

 

Every time politicians talked about "Israel's right to defend itself" they paved the way for things to get to this point. 

 

Israel should be banned from every single European event. They are not European, no European country in the 21st century would behave like this. 

The fact they are involved in European events should really flag up the situation…but no !

Does any other nation on earth have to take their business to another continent because  the one they’re in won’t have them ?

And on one thinks this strange ?

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Francis Albert
2 hours ago, XB52 said:

There's a thing called the internet where you can read news from around the world.

It is a big thing on which you can find whatever news you want find.

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il Duce McTarkin
1 hour ago, Boab said:

The fact they are involved in European events should really flag up the situation…but no !

Does any other nation on earth have to take their business to another continent because  the one they’re in won’t have them ?

And on one thinks this strange ?

 

Australia competes in Eurovision, Boab.

There's loads of things to go in hard on the Israeli's about but this isn't one of them.

The neighbouring states and Arabs couldn't be trusted to behave with any Israeli sports team, etc. There would be mass murders within the year.

Just because the current Israeli government is behaving like an expansionist, quasi-genocidal lunatic doesn't mean that most of their neighbours aren't a shower of horrible ^^^^s too. There's no shortage of evidence.

 

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Francis Albert
3 hours ago, hmfcbilly said:

I'm not saying this isn't true, but can I ask where you found out that Israel has killed 14,000 children? I dont know enough about the inner details of all this to feel I can form an opinion, but I've read a few bits on here stating things like the above, and, I'm genuinely curious where folk are finding out these facts?

When the source of these numbers is attributed (which it more often than not isn't, it is usually the Gaza Health Ministry (Hamas run and controlled) But 4000, 14,000 or 40,000 ... it remains horrific.

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Francis Albert
4 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Persecution started in 1933. Blind eye was turned.

15 years after the slaughter of WW1 there was no appetite for starting another war with Germany.

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HeartsandonlyHearts
4 hours ago, XB52 said:

There's a thing called the internet where you can read news from around the world.

Not sure if serious

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