Diadora Van Basten Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 28 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I admire and respect your postings on this but sadly you’re beating your head against a brick wall . It seems Israel can literally get away with anything . It’s all beyond despairing really . I agree it is despairing that a Genocide is being committed and the UK are complicit. My post was to provide context that is sadly missing by our media but will be noted by Historians. The Israeli finance minister has labelled every single person in Gaza a Nazi and it would appear he is not just giving his own view. 50% of the population of Gaza are children who are now fair game. Soon Israel will invade Rafah where 1.5 million displaced Palestinians are residing in make shift refugee camps. It may be that the IDF go into Rafah and are careful to distinguish between Palestinian civilians and Hamas combatants or as is more likely they will act like the Orcs at the battle of Helm’s Deep or the Nazis at the start of Schindlers list. If this happens our media will act surprised as if they could not see it coming as they have failed to provide the necessary context to show that Israel does not distinguish between Hamas combatants and Palestinian civilians . Edited April 22 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Being provocative by being Jewish and in public. That's not a good look for UK. British citizen should be allowed to walk anywhere in streets at anytime. Police shouldn't be threatening to arrest him for crime if 'bring obviously jewish'. If you can't accept that, then no point in debating. Imagine the tears from those on here if a Palestinian supporter was threatened with arrest for walking along a street. DVB and XB52 would be demanding United Nations intervene. What about if, let’s say, a James Connolly march was being shadowed by a small group of Orangemen wearing their regalia, and they tried to cross the road right in front of the Connolly march. Smartphones at the ready to capture any reaction. Would the police be expected to stop them causing a confrontation or decide that they had the right to walk along, and cross the streets, of the UK unhindered? In my opinion, this guy has tried to create a situation which is not typical of a Jewish person walking the streets of London. I would like to think that many Jewish people would despair at his attempt to create attention for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 11 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: What about if, let’s say, a James Connolly march was being shadowed by a small group of Orangemen wearing their regalia, and they tried to cross the road right in front of the Connolly march. Smartphones at the ready to capture any reaction. Would the police be expected to stop them causing a confrontation or decide that they had the right to walk along, and cross the streets, of the UK unhindered? In my opinion, this guy has tried to create a situation which is not typical of a Jewish person walking the streets of London. I would like to think that many Jewish people would despair at his attempt to create attention for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 51 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: that the IDF go into Rafah and are careful to distinguish between Palestinian civilians and Hamas combatants or as is more likely they will act like the Orcs at the battle of Helm’s Deep or the Nazis This will happen , best way to predict the future is to look at the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: As I said on the other thread, Britain has transferred all its intelligence resources and some military support from Ukraine to support Israel against Iran. Priorities. ok I'm calling bullshit on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said: ok I'm calling bullshit on that. What's your evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 The guys presumed to be Hamas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The guys presumed to be Hamas Poor lad . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The guys presumed to be Hamas His killing has all the hallmarks of the Israeli artificial intelligence systems Lavender and Where’s Daddy. The Lavender system predicts who is a Hamas operative and allows for up to a hundred civilians to be killed as collateral damage while the Where’s Daddy system tracks mobile phones to the targets home and they are then killed in their homes along with their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: What's your evidence Where's yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Being provocative by being Jewish and in public. That's not a good look for UK. British citizen should be allowed to walk anywhere in streets at anytime. Police shouldn't be threatening to arrest him for crime if 'bring obviously jewish'. If you can't accept that, then no point in debating. Imagine the tears from those on here if a Palestinian supporter was threatened with arrest for walking along a street. DVB and XB52 would be demanding United Nations intervene. Another one who has totally ignored facts. You have surely by now seen, or at least know about the whole 15 minutes of the confrontation. This shows this was an orchestrated attempt to provoke peaceful pro-palestine marchers by a known zionist troublemaker. On the other hand, you would rather ignore facts, and 15000 dead children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: What's your evidence dearie me, you're the one asserting that ALL Britain's Intelligence resources have been transferred to support Israel against Iran - that is patently nonsense . Stop deflecting either back up your statement or admit you were slavering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/israeli-allegations-of-unrwa-staff-links-to-terrorism-cost-aid-agency-dearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 48 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Stop deflecting either back up your statement or admit you were slavering. That's not how the internet works, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Poor coos 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: What's your evidence You're the one who made the original assertion, Mikey. You should be the one to show evidence for it. Just for info, I think you're speaking crap as well. And I can't figure out why on earth you would do that unless it's simply a regurgitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statts1976uk Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Being provocative by being Jewish and in public. That's not a good look for UK. British citizen should be allowed to walk anywhere in streets at anytime. Police shouldn't be threatening to arrest him for crime if 'bring obviously jewish'. If you can't accept that, then no point in debating. Imagine the tears from those on here if a Palestinian supporter was threatened with arrest for walking along a street. DVB and XB52 would be demanding United Nations intervene. In the full length video it provides a lot more context to Gideon's actions. Would he have insisted on waiting for the march to reach that point alongside his minders and film crew if he wasn't trying to prove a point. Would he have bothered trying to cross the road or even be there if it was a march for something like Just Stop Oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Japan Jambo said: dearie me, you're the one asserting that ALL Britain's Intelligence resources have been transferred to support Israel against Iran - that is patently nonsense . Stop deflecting either back up your statement or admit you were slavering. 2 hours ago, redjambo said: You're the one who made the original assertion, Mikey. You should be the one to show evidence for it. Just for info, I think you're speaking crap as well. And I can't figure out why on earth you would do that unless it's simply a regurgitation. I don't think @Mikey1874 meant what you both think he meant - but it's probably not my place to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, Ulysses said: I don't think @Mikey1874 meant what you both think he meant - but it's probably not my place to say. I took it to mean that all of Britain's intelligence resources which were previously employed in the Ukranian theatre have been transferred to aid Israel against Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 42 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: I took it to mean that all of Britain's intelligence resources which were previously employed in the Ukranian theatre have been transferred to aid Israel against Iran. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Diadora Van Basten Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Gundermann said: I watched the congress hearing with the President of Colombia University and it was like a witch hunt. At one point one of the Congress men asked her if she wanted God to curse Colombia University. its good that the University protestors are standing their ground against persecution (100 were arrested by police at the weekend as Zionists try to confuse anti Genocide with Antisemitism) and that the protests are spreading to other Universities. The last time such a movement took place was The Vietnam war. Edited April 23 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ulysses said: Yep. I'd still be interested to see Mikey's source, though. Edited April 23 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 20 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: What about if, let’s say, a James Connolly march was being shadowed by a small group of Orangemen wearing their regalia, and they tried to cross the road right in front of the Connolly march. Smartphones at the ready to capture any reaction. Would the police be expected to stop them causing a confrontation or decide that they had the right to walk along, and cross the streets, of the UK unhindered? In my opinion, this guy has tried to create a situation which is not typical of a Jewish person walking the streets of London. I would like to think that many Jewish people would despair at his attempt to create attention for himself. About this. He put himself in that situation. It's similar to some folk claiming "it's illegal to wave a Union Flag" - it's not but in can be in some circumstances as could other symbols. Breach of the Peace, at the very least. The guy's bodyguards are ex-Mossad apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 11 minutes ago, Gundermann said: About this. He put himself in that situation. It's similar to some folk claiming "it's illegal to wave a Union Flag" - it's not but in can be in some circumstances as could other symbols. Breach of the Peace, at the very least. The guy's bodyguards are ex-Mossad apparently. Ah, it's the Jews fault for being there. Haven't heard that excuse since the 1930's/1940's. Maybe they should just wear yellow stars and stick to ghettos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Ah, it's the Jews fault for being there. Haven't heard that excuse since the 1930's/1940's. Maybe they should just wear yellow stars and stick to ghettos. It was this particular Jew's fault for being a provocative, shit-stirring, arsehole. That's not because he's a Jew, btw, before you pish your frillies and shout about Auschwitz or some other outrageous false equivalence. It's because he's an arsehole. I suppose you guys need to stick together though, right? He knew exactly what he was doing and exactly the reaction he was going to get. The copper should've let him cross the road and get his **** kicked in. All his subsequent bleating about antisemitism - that we were always going to be subjected to regardless of the outcome - would've at least have been worth it. Edited April 23 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 36 minutes ago, Gundermann said: The guy's bodyguards are ex-Mossad apparently. Totally normal behaviour to try and innocently cross a road where there's a pro-Palestinian, anti-genocide, march going on while being coincidently equipped with a camera crew and some ex-Mossad body guards. Happens every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It was this particular Jew's fault for being a provocative, shit-stirring, arsehole. That's not because he's a Jew, btw, before you pish your frillies and shout about Auschwitz or some other outrageous false equivalence. It's because he's an arsehole. I suppose you guys need to stick together though, right? He knew exactly what he was doing and exactly the reaction he was going to get. The copper should've let him cross the road and get his **** kicked in. All his subsequent bleating about antisemitism - that we were always going to be subjected to regardless of the outcome - would've at least have been worth it. It’s really that simple. Spot on 👏🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Mass graves found at hospitals and evidence of executions. Children bombed in Rafah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Fuel at a five month high due to Israel blowing up Iranian consulate in Syria. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68881429 Tik Tok to be banned after Zionist organisation the Anti defamation League angered that they can’t control it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87zp82247yo Our government is supporting a country that is hitting motorists in the pocket and reducing the likelihood of interest rates being cut any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Bernie Sanders “This is no longer a war against Hamas, it is a war against the very fabric of Palestinian life.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 31 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Are the CCP humble and selfless, too? Serious question: are you being paid or threatened by Palestinian groups to post some of this stuff? Who is the CCP I always try not to use Acronyms as they are very irritating and answer to your question is obviously no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Chinese Communist Party: the folk who control the PRC and, by default, ByteDance. SFAM. https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2024/03/14/tiktok-us-israel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Cool. Nothing to do with the US user info being easily accessed by the CCP, then? I hate to break it to you, but the entire western world isn’t actually some Jewish-led conspiracy to kill Palestinians. It’s just a coincidence that the bill was passed at a “must pass” bill without any debate tied to funding for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Personally I am appalled by our close associations with colonialist settler states. The US, Canada. Australia. New Zealand among others. The Nats would no doubt throw in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Genocide really brings out the worst in our right wing posters. Not really a subject for jokes but it seems that's all they have left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 23 minutes ago, XB52 said: Genocide really brings out the worst in our right wing posters. Not really a subject for jokes but it seems that's all they have left Sadly this is what’s to be expected when losing the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: 😄 Our lack of strategic alignment with present-day Iran and China is what’s holding us back, Frank. If only we weren't so right wing, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Sadly this is what’s to be expected when losing the argument. Losing what argument TRMb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Losing what argument TRMb? Any argument. Have a look and you'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Any argument. Have a look and you'll see. I'd like you to tell me please, because I don't think that you really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Mhairi Black brought up the subject of the mass graves found at Gaza’s destroyed hospitals at Prime Minister’s Questions. Oliver Dowden said we can trust Israel to investigate themselves as they are a democracy. It was notable that the Tory front bench did not support him in the way he was expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Fuel at a five month high due to Israel blowing up Iranian consulate in Syria. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68881429 Tik Tok to be banned after Zionist organisation the Anti defamation League angered that they can’t control it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87zp82247yo Our government is supporting a country that is hitting motorists in the pocket and reducing the likelihood of interest rates being cut any time soon. Have a day off 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: I'd like you to tell me please, because I don't think that you really know. Stop being an arse and give head another wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 33 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Stop being an arse and give head another wobble. ..or, how about you tell me who the 'right wing' posters are on this thread, and what the argument is that, in your opinion, they are losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: ..or, how about you tell me who the 'right wing' posters are on this thread, and what the argument is that, in your opinion, they are losing? Wish they would make up their mind about what constitutes “ right wing” I am regularly labelled as one yet Im sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians in this situation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Wish they would make up their mind about what constitutes “ right wing” I am regularly labelled as one yet Im sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians in this situation . Right winger is a term now loosely applied to anyone certain people disagree with. So if you oppose the idea that there is such a thing as a woman you are like JK Rowling a right winger. If you believe in Israel's right to exist you are a supporter of a colonialist settler state. The term left and right winger has lost any useful meaning. The leader of the Labour party is now a right winger because he is not aligned to the new left. Edited April 24 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Francis Albert said: Right winger is a term now loosely applied to anyone certain people disagree with. So if you oppose the idea that there is such a thing as a woman you are like JK Rowling a right winger. If you believe in Israel's right to exist you are a supporter of a colonialist settler state. The term left and right winger. The leader of the Labour party is now a right winger because he is not aligned to the new left. It kinda was a rhetorical question frank but thanks for your reply which is correct ! It’s meant to be a slur but it’s not . The left are now the fascists in every conceivable way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 In my experience, people who are termed “ right-wing “ are people who are generally arseholes. The more right you go, the bigger the arsehole you are. In the context of this conflict, there are many arseholes but, confusingly for some, some are on the “ left “ side of the conflict. Simply, it’s way to complicated to use right and left. Maybe that’s what our brains are telling us so we can comprehend it in our way of thinking. You can’t ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Boab said: Simply, it’s way to complicated to use right and left. Maybe that’s what our brains are telling us so we can comprehend it in our way of thinking. You can’t ! Tell that to XB52 and TRMb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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