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4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

My ex loved him and it took me a long time to appreciate any of his humour. Even a little bit. 
He’s a marmite character for sure but I guess he’s guilty already now regardless. 
We’ll never know. 
I have no idea if he’s a beast or not. 
But its funny how people believe the media for some things and not others. 
Confirmation bias for everything now. 
 

It's not hard to believe it though another case of hide it in plain sight.Its not just him though it's the people that have employed it that has enabled it and let it happen.I don't know for sure if he has raped anyone as you say we can only go on what has been told but the working practices he has had at his disposal have all made it easy for him to pressure and convince imo and nobody has pulled him on the behaviour.He won't be the last though this industry is just ripe for these types even in America again this week that prick from This 70s show has got 30 years for a double rape and his mate Ashton Kutcher begged for a lenient sentence 

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2 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

Katy Perry must have been desperate/gullible/obsessed/stupid/a sex addict herself  (or all of them)  to fall for that weirdo. 

Katy Perry on divorcing Russell Brand: “I felt a lot of responsibility for it ending but then I found out the real truth, which I can’t necessarily disclose because I keep it locked in my safe for a rainy day. I let go and I was like: This isn’t because of me; this is beyond me”

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4 hours ago, periodictabledancer said:

Because the conviction rate for rapes is abysmally low.  Many women see little point in reliving the crime, being attacked in the witness box and then watch their attacker go free. 

I've recently had dealings with the CPS as a victim. Those fokkers couldn't find their own arse with both hands. It's not that they are chronically underfunded, that just gives them an excuse, it's that they are unaccountable and they don't care. I hope they put more effort into pursuing rape convictions but I seriously doubt it. 

 

I've told the police who put together all the evidence for 'my' case that I will NEVER volunteer to help in any future case of any description. The emotional investment just isn't worth it. 

 

My own case is trivial compared to that of a rape victim but it's made me realise why victims are likely to be better off not having to deal with the criminal 'justice' system. 

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5 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

I've recently had dealings with the CPS as a victim. Those fokkers couldn't find their own arse with both hands. It's not that they are chronically underfunded, that just gives them an excuse, it's that they are unaccountable and they don't care. I hope they put more effort into pursuing rape convictions but I seriously doubt it. 

 

I've told the police who put together all the evidence for 'my' case that I will NEVER volunteer to help in any future case of any description. The emotional investment just isn't worth it. 

 

My own case is trivial compared to that of a rape victim but it's made me realise why victims are likely to be better off not having to deal with the criminal 'justice' system. 

I'm just acknowledging your response because in all honesty , I don't know what to say to this. 

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19 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

I've recently had dealings with the CPS as a victim. Those fokkers couldn't find their own arse with both hands. It's not that they are chronically underfunded, that just gives them an excuse, it's that they are unaccountable and they don't care. I hope they put more effort into pursuing rape convictions but I seriously doubt it. 

 

I've told the police who put together all the evidence for 'my' case that I will NEVER volunteer to help in any future case of any description. The emotional investment just isn't worth it. 

 

My own case is trivial compared to that of a rape victim but it's made me realise why victims are likely to be better off not having to deal with the criminal 'justice' system. 

 

I'm gonna echo what @periodictabledancer said above, and just acknowledge what you've said, because there's nothing else helpful I can say.

 

 

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Clearly, no laughing matter, but Morgana Robinson used to rip him to bits.

 

I'll have to dig out my V.I.P. DVD as there's zero chance of it ever getting an airing on telly again.

 

The bit here where he "has sex with Vladimir Putin's 23 years old grand-daughter" must've been about as close as she was able to go without being hit with an injunction:-

 

 

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Doesn't greatly surprise me, I thought there was something far off about him since the Andrew Sachs incident.

 

Talks on live radio about having sex with the then 78 year old mans granddaughter, then leaves vulgar messages about having sex with her on the old mans answer machine? And that's rip roaringly funny?

It's so far from funny it's not just malicious that's getting into sadistic and was an unintended look into his psyche.

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This episode contains detailed allegations of rape and sexual assault. Following an exclusive investigation by The Sunday Times, The Times and Channel 4 Dispatches we hear how the comedian and actor Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assaults and emotional abuse.

 

Journalists Rosamund Urwin and Charlotte Wace reveal the harrowing stories of two of Brand’s alleged victims.

 

Russell Brand strongly denies all the allegations.

 

 

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7 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

I've recently had dealings with the CPS as a victim. Those fokkers couldn't find their own arse with both hands. It's not that they are chronically underfunded, that just gives them an excuse, it's that they are unaccountable and they don't care. I hope they put more effort into pursuing rape convictions but I seriously doubt it. 

 

I've told the police who put together all the evidence for 'my' case that I will NEVER volunteer to help in any future case of any description. The emotional investment just isn't worth it. 

 

My own case is trivial compared to that of a rape victim but it's made me realise why victims are likely to be better off not having to deal with the criminal 'justice' system. 

Had a similar experience as yourself when my house got burgled 🤬 

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So it seems the entertainment industry has known for 20 years that he’s a predator but everyone was scared.

 

The #MeToo campaign was 2017 and he managed to escape injury free, plus with a super injunction he’s done his best to protect himself.

 

There’s going to be huge numbers coming forward here.

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When he rented a flat from a friend of a friend during the Edinburgh Festival there was an allegation that a rape had taken place in the flat but Brand wasn’t involved. The flat was completely trashed.

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Innocent until proven otherwise. However, if he’s charged, tried and found guilty, I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised.

Always struck me is a bit of a wrong ‘un.

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6 hours ago, Wee Mikey said:

Clearly, no laughing matter, but Morgana Robinson used to rip him to bits.

 

I'll have to dig out my V.I.P. DVD as there's zero chance of it ever getting an airing on telly again.

 

The bit here where he "has sex with Vladimir Putin's 23 years old grand-daughter" must've been about as close as she was able to go without being hit with an injunction:-

 

 

 

It's disgusting the way much older men use coercive and controlling behaviour on girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters. They are too scared to say no after being put in intolerable situations and end up going along with it against their wishes.

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2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

This episode contains detailed allegations of rape and sexual assault. Following an exclusive investigation by The Sunday Times, The Times and Channel 4 Dispatches we hear how the comedian and actor Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assaults and emotional abuse.

 

Journalists Rosamund Urwin and Charlotte Wace reveal the harrowing stories of two of Brand’s alleged victims.

 

Russell Brand strongly denies all the allegations.

 

 

Well he really is foul.

 

 Saying spitting is part of sex ? Yuck. That says a lot about him really.  Whether the other allegations are true is still to be decided.  

 

Unsure about the issue of him having a relationship with a 16 years old. Whilst its perfectly legal there certainly is a power imbalance and those type of relationships can be open to abuse. But then again a 30 years old woman could be in an abusive relationship with a  45 years old man ? 

 

Does it mean we need to up the age of consent ?   

 

 

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16 minutes ago, McGlynn The Money said:

 

It's disgusting the way much older men use coercive and controlling behaviour on girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters. They are too scared to say no after being put in intolerable situations and end up going along with it against their wishes.

Last night probably triggered a lot of women thinking back to their teens, whilst I was never sexually assaulted, I remember being in some very unsettling situations and conversations with older men and just trying to laugh it off as being a bit of banter but it's a horrible feeling, thankfully times have moved on and I think and hope this is less frequent 

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2 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said:

The Times article is horrific. 

As in: "the allegations made in the Times article are horrific"?

 

I'm sure you're not suggesting that the way in which the article has been researched and written falls short ;) 

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They don't just do a hit job on someone now.If there is nothing to answer for I'm sure he will have a lawsuit out against all involved.The outcry from him on social media was to his cult followers.

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37 minutes ago, lou said:

Last night probably triggered a lot of women thinking back to their teens, whilst I was never sexually assaulted, I remember being in some very unsettling situations and conversations with older men and just trying to laugh it off as being a bit of banter but it's a horrible feeling, thankfully times have moved on and I think and hope this is less frequent 

Sadly I'm not sure it's less frequent or just older men .

This isn't good ,is it now part of our culture .

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/17/hardcore-porn-choking-and-universities-left-to-tackle-rising-tide-of-sexual-assaults?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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He's an utter bellend, but how can these cases be carried forward after so long. I can't imagine there's much evidence after all these years.

 

Seems he's upset the wrong person and the media are going to throw mud at him until enough sticks. He'll slink off into the darkness and we won't hear much from him for a good few years.

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On 16/09/2023 at 20:22, JudyJudyJudy said:

I've said this before and it was laughed at but I think in the future you will have to sign a form or something before having sex with someone to prove you  both consented.  

That's what Weinstein 's lawyer said.............whoever gets to their lawyer first.

 

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22 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

He was quite funny years and years ago when he started out . I recall him as the studio host of " Big brother " . He was great then.  Unsure how women or indeed men find him attractive though.  Its a no from me. 

I know these allegations are serious but I had a wee snigger at the end Triple J.

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8 minutes ago, Life Aquatic said:

He's an utter bellend, but how can these cases be carried forward after so long. I can't imagine there's much evidence after all these years.

 

Seems he's upset the wrong person and the media are going to throw mud at him until enough sticks. He'll slink off into the darkness and we won't hear much from him for a good few years.

 

Have you watched the Dispatches episode?

 

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1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

 

 

Does it mean we need to up the age of consent ?   

 

 

The age of consent is 16 because 16 year olds will have sex with each other, it isn’t so men can have sex with girls many years younger than them. Of course legally they can but it’s thoroughly unsavoury. 

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11 minutes ago, Life Aquatic said:

He's an utter bellend, but how can these cases be carried forward after so long. I can't imagine there's much evidence after all these years.

 

Seems he's upset the wrong person and the media are going to throw mud at him until enough sticks. He'll slink off into the darkness and we won't hear much from him for a good few years.

With reference to your last paragraph, do you think the women involved are all part of some elaborate plot to bring him down because he has upset the wrong person?.

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1 minute ago, Tazio said:

The age of consent is 16 because 16 year olds will have sex with each other, it isn’t so men can have sex with girls many years younger than them. Of course legally they can but it’s thoroughly unsavoury. 

Exactly, it's about control and power dynamics 

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6 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

Doesn't greatly surprise me, I thought there was something far off about him since the Andrew Sachs incident.

 

Talks on live radio about having sex with the then 78 year old mans granddaughter, then leaves vulgar messages about having sex with her on the old mans answer machine? And that's rip roaringly funny?

It's so far from funny it's not just malicious that's getting into sadistic and was an unintended look into his psyche.

 

Frst thing that came to my mind when these allegations surfaced. If memory serves Jonathan Ross was involved as well.

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8 minutes ago, Bindy Badgy said:

 

Frst thing that came to my mind when these allegations surfaced. If memory serves Jonathan Ross was involved as well.

 

That's right, sniggering along, the prick.

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20 minutes ago, lou said:

With reference to your last paragraph, do you think the women involved are all part of some elaborate plot to bring him down because he has upset the wrong person?.

Not at all, I just can't understand how the police can bring forward a case with the reasonable expectation of success in these situations when the evidence amounts to "She said... She alleges... She claims..."

 

It would not be too difficult for a good legal team to deal with. 

 

Yet these stories often come forward regardless. Like they know they won't get a conviction but trial by public opinion will do.

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12 hours ago, I P Knightley said:

I've recently had dealings with the CPS as a victim. Those fokkers couldn't find their own arse with both hands. It's not that they are chronically underfunded, that just gives them an excuse, it's that they are unaccountable and they don't care. I hope they put more effort into pursuing rape convictions but I seriously doubt it. 

 

I've told the police who put together all the evidence for 'my' case that I will NEVER volunteer to help in any future case of any description. The emotional investment just isn't worth it. 

 

My own case is trivial compared to that of a rape victim but it's made me realise why victims are likely to be better off not having to deal with the criminal 'justice' system. 

As I've previously written on here - I lost faith in the legal profession when I was doing a law degree. Justice is talked about as an incidental matter. The real focus is arguing coherently and winning the argument. Everything else like victims, punishments, recidivism, criminality, mitigation & justice are side-factors. They are merely incidentals to support the argument and help get the "win".

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1 hour ago, I P Knightley said:

As in: "the allegations made in the Times article are horrific"?

 

I'm sure you're not suggesting that the way in which the article has been researched and written falls short ;) 

It made grim reading. I found it disturbing. 

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12 minutes ago, Life Aquatic said:

Not at all, I just can't understand how the police can bring forward a case with the reasonable expectation of success in these situations when the evidence amounts to "She said... She alleges... She claims..."

 

It would not be too difficult for a good legal team to deal with. 

 

Yet these stories often come forward regardless. Like they know they won't get a conviction but trial by public opinion will do.

I would imagine there is more to come, should women stay quiet about rape, Because they won't be believed due to lack of evidence? 

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35 minutes ago, Bindy Badgy said:

 

Frst thing that came to my mind when these allegations surfaced. If memory serves Jonathan Ross was involved as well.

Ross is another knob.

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On 16/09/2023 at 06:36, JudyJudyJudy said:

Dear lord.  who next ? Basil Brush ? 

"Boom Boom" Brush as the ladies call him.

 

Open secret Basil was a bad boy

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19 hours ago, westbow said:

I remember when David Icke was normal. 

David Icke has been proved right on quite alot of things. Yes there were some out there things said too but he's not wrong in a number of ways

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9 minutes ago, That thing you do said:

"Boom Boom" Brush as the ladies call him.

 

Open secret Basil was a bad boy

You’re going to end up a little bit odd if you spend your whole life with a man’s hand up your arse. 

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10 minutes ago, That thing you do said:

"Boom Boom" Brush as the ladies call him.

 

Open secret Basil was a bad boy

I think he prided himself on his reputation as a "cad".

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7 minutes ago, That thing you do said:

David Icke has been proved right on quite alot of things. Yes there were some out there things said too but he's not wrong in a number of ways

 

But what does that really mean?

 

If you spout a crock of shit alongside some salient points, it's still a crock of shit.

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16 minutes ago, That thing you do said:

"Boom Boom" Brush as the ladies call him.

 

Open secret Basil was a bad boy

His laugh got on my t***

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51 minutes ago, Life Aquatic said:

Not at all, I just can't understand how the police can bring forward a case with the reasonable expectation of success in these situations when the evidence amounts to "She said... She alleges... She claims..."

 

It would not be too difficult for a good legal team to deal with. 

 

Yet these stories often come forward regardless. Like they know they won't get a conviction but trial by public opinion will do.

You're forgetting the woman in America ? The one who had to have emergency contraception and a medical examination ? 

How do you know "It would not be too difficult for a good legal team to deal with. "?

Prosecution rates in the UK for rape cases is abysmally low and success rates negligible.

 

And why would these women bother when they worked in the industry alongside Brand and could see that he was treated with kid gloves in the industry, no one wanted to get a grip on his behaviour or hold him accountable. He was untouchable. 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cameronstheman said:

If he aint been charged, whys his name out for all to see  ??, that seems harsh

 

 

You don't agree these women have a right to be heard ? 

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