Absolute Scenes Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Have defended him and love him but he single handedly cost us a win tonight. Ridiculous brain fart. We’d have won that game and gone into Saturday playing for third. We’re now going in to stop us finishing 5th. Unacceptable and we need to upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 An experienced centre back beside him might turn things right for him. If not he’ll be gone. Youngish guy learning his position. But he makes a lot of mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Cost us many goals this season. Catchy song though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Let’s not do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Have defended him and love him but he single handedly cost us a win tonight. Ridiculous brain fart. We’d have won that game and gone into Saturday playing for third. We’re now going in to stop us finishing 5th. Unacceptable and we need to upgrade Get him in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts of Vladland Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Zal was called a bombscare for a lot less than him and Hill have done multiple times this season, if they both cut that out the mistakes they wouldn’t be at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On the deck he’s like Virgil Van Dyke. When the ball is in the air he is worse than useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 He’s shit…there I will say it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madvlad65 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Behave yourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, CMc said: Let’s not do this. I don’t want to slate the lad because I’m delighted how far he’s come this season. But that mistake has come at the absolutely most horrible time. Had he left the ball for Clark, we’re currently celebrating a win and in the mix for 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, CMc said: Let’s not do this. Pointless appealing. There's another Neilson thread ffs. Read it and weep mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Does the right thing 90% of the time, makes a mistake and that's what everyone sees. 🤷🏻♂️ They're no robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I love What If threads. Imagine if Hickey had stayed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Hearts of Vladland said: Zal was called a bombscare for a lot less than him and Hill have done multiple times this season, if they both cut that out the mistakes they wouldn’t be at Hearts. I’m fed up hearing the “if a player didn’t have flaws they wouldn’t be at Hearts” line that gets trotted out. I expect the absolute basics to be done. Sibbick (and others) regularly fail to do the basics. It’s not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBones Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 A young defender made a really bad mistake. I don't think we are strong enough at the back and to be honest I think most of our defence are bang average, apart from Cochrane Sibbick has potential though, needs halkett beside him to improve his game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Probably best not to lay into him before an important game at the weekend. He has cost us many goals this season but he's improving overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Our inability to sign a CB has cost us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Defends well at times but has brain farts far to regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Let Them Forget Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Behave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, stotty said: Get him in midfield Get him tae feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam11 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 High profile error tonight which can happen when you’re a centre back. In isolation it’s unfortunate. But this guy is sadly culpable (along with Rowles) almost every week in the goals we lose. Losing his man, not picking up, getting beaten in the air. He seems a top guy and I really like him but he simply cannot start games for Hearts at CB. Otherwise we will always leak goals like we have done all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best in the land Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Back up at best. New defence needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Get him in midfield, but don't blame Naismith as we have no-one else. Robbie should be ashamed with what he's left us with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: An experienced centre back beside him might turn things right for him. If not he’ll be gone. Youngish guy learning his position. But he makes a lot of mistakes. Helander 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazhearts Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Toby has bags of potential. Lighting fast. Get rid of the brain fasts and get stronger in the air and we have a player on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 It’s a shocker from him but I’m not sure how people believe we go on to win that game from 1-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Awful thread pre derby. Honest to god. Some folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: I don’t want to slate the lad because I’m delighted how far he’s come this season. But that mistake has come at the absolutely most horrible time. Had he left the ball for Clark, we’re currently celebrating a win and in the mix for 3rd. You don’t want to slate him…But you’ll start a thread to slate him? Edited May 24, 2023 by iantjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 He is good against Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Get him tae feck. Could do everything haring does, as well as adding pace, athleticism etc to midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heisenberg86 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: Our inability to sign a CB has cost us. This. The fact we never signed an experienced CB in January has cost us big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Does the right thing 90% of the time, makes a mistake and that's what everyone sees. 🤷🏻♂️ They're no robots. When the mistake costs you a win, and the chance to win third next week then it gets called out above the good things you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Like Toby but that was a terrible mistake at exactly the wrong time. decent today but 2 absolutely abysmal goals to concede Edited May 24, 2023 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Absolute Scenes said: When the mistake costs you a win, and the chance to win third next week then it gets called out above the good things you do That's ridiculously unrealistic to have an expectation that players can't make mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, iantjambo said: You don’t want to slate him…But you’ll start a thread to slate him? Calling out mistakes isn’t slating, it’s holding him accountable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Made a mistake but they had more than enough chances to win the game. Second half was dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 In Scottish football you need a big no nonsense dominant centre back. We don’t have one and it’s cost us lots of goals and 3rd place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 You can add Devlin to that. All the composure of a junkie on a come down. I'm also going to add the absolute mouth breathing frauds in our football department. We pay an awful lot of money to so called "football people" who are supposed to know more than your average fan, and we all knew our defence was soft as shite and needing experience, so we sign... James Hill a 20 year old with virtually no experience. Had we brought in an experienced "Heid the baw" type defender, we'd have had a good enough partner for Rowles and we'd have picked up enough points to finish 3rd. I'm so pissed off at how much of a ****ing let down the folk running the football team actually are. You need experienced defenders, because experience usually buys you composure which means less mistakes in crucial moments and as we've seen time, and time and time again this season, we love a mistake in a crucial moment because we have no experience in key areas at the back. Yes, we can blame Toby, but if our squad was being managed correctly we'd have had an experienced defender brought in which would have relegated Toby to either the bench, or midfield (where his ball playing ability could be better utilised). We've taken two soft defenders and paired them up with each other. What did we expect to happen? Does anyone in our football department actually have any common sense? They are too alike to get the best out of each other, and neither is the clear leader. You build teams from the back, and our defence is like a ****ing tea cake - soft in the middle. You can't build a successful team that leaks totally avoidable goals every ****ing week. We should have beat Hibs, we should have beat St Mirren, we should have won tonight (I don't care if Rangers at Ibrox, they were not at the races today and still we couldn't get it over the line). Losing 3rd is entirely a failure of our own making and totally self inflicted by the idiots we trust to run our football department. They should not be taking a wage if the average fan in the stand can point out glaring gaps in their squad building with common ****ing sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Lambo85 said: In Scottish football you need a big no nonsense dominant centre back. We don’t have one and it’s cost us lots of goals and 3rd place! It has aye. That and the players downing tools for 10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Atkinson hill Rowles Cochrane is your back 4 for Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Absolute Scenes said: Calling out mistakes isn’t slating, it’s holding him accountable Starting a thread, to make him personally responsible for us not winning tonight, is slating him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 The mistake wasn’t long after his head knock so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, heisenberg86 said: This. The fact we never signed an experienced CB in January has cost us big time The signing strategy has been a total failure. The buck stops with savage. Personally I want rid of savage, I think he is to blame for a raft of useless signings. Anyway this season has been a waste of time, with a lot of duds signed. There needs to be a clean sweep from top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 He has flaws that show up fairly regularly at centre back. Push him forward into the role Peter Haring is playing. I'm not going to sit here and slaughter him. He's likeable and he is a player who has something to offer Hearts. He's had a nightmare moment tonight but these things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Get him tae feck. Sadly, im in this camp now. “Theres a player in there” Well let another club find it!!! Edited May 24, 2023 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Starting a thread, to make him personally responsible for us not winning tonight, is slating him. He is personally responsible, fact. That mistake cost us, show me where I’ve slated him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Aye that was a bridge too far for me tonight. Still think he can become a really good player but he needs carried by better around him to develop and we haven't got that option. It wasn't just him though. The whole back 4 were a complete and utter embarrassment at the first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, stotty said: Get him in midfield I’ve been saying that for weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 We all like him but if we go through the season it is a lot of errors. A lot. Even in last ten games responsible or partly responsible for maybe 6 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Newton51 said: The mistake wasn’t long after his head knock so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt Does he get one every week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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