7PNJ4 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Really hope he gets a consistent chance this season. Did what you're supposed to do as a striker out on loan last season and scored goals. Key players may find themselves rested more frequently in the upcoming campaign and I think this will give players on the fringes of the squad more motivation. Motivation isn't something he's lacked though, rather the opportunity. If he gets consistent game time I think he gets at least 10 goals this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, 7PNJ4 said: Really hope he gets a consistent chance this season. Did what you're supposed to do as a striker out on loan last season and scored goals. Key players may find themselves rested more frequently in the upcoming campaign and I think this will give players on the fringes of the squad more motivation. Motivation isn't something he's lacked though, rather the opportunity. If he gets consistent game time I think he gets at least 10 goals this season. I agree entirely. He deserves his chance, despite what many on here feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7PNJ4 Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, chrystaf said: I agree entirely. He deserves his chance, despite what many on here feel. Just think he's a bit different. That run against Dundee in the championship is not something many players can do. Yes, it's the championship and it was almost a pointless game at that point but you still have to have the skill to make those things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Hope he's bulked up then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadyAcres Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, 7PNJ4 said: Just think he's a bit different. That run against Dundee in the championship is not something many players can do. Yes, it's the championship and it was almost a pointless game at that point but you still have to have the skill to make those things happen. I know what your saying but "a run" that someone made 2 years ago isn't much to go on. He will be given a fair crack in preseason I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. The ball is in his court though and he has youth on his side and all he can do is work harder than anyone else and keep improving and hope his chance comes, when it does, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAndrew Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 If he scores and plays well in the minutes he is given, then great. If not, move on and let him go to another club where he can build up minutes and goals. He hasn't shown me he's the standard we need. But there have been flashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. you know better than everyone else, no matter what they think - PMSL. You sound like Boris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 This season is probably his last chance here so he has to take it when presented. Good luck to him, would love to see our own lads succeed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, 7PNJ4 said: Really hope he gets a consistent chance this season. Did what you're supposed to do as a striker out on loan last season and scored goals. Key players may find themselves rested more frequently in the upcoming campaign and I think this will give players on the fringes of the squad more motivation. Motivation isn't something he's lacked though, rather the opportunity. If he gets consistent game time I think he gets at least 10 goals this season. Euan really needs us to sign only 1 striker to have a decent amount of game time. If we bring in Shankland and Simms he's going to struggle. If we only sign 1 of the 2 he's got a chance to stake a claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchill Barrier Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, 7PNJ4 said: Really hope he gets a consistent chance this season. Did what you're supposed to do as a striker out on loan last season and scored goals. Key players may find themselves rested more frequently in the upcoming campaign and I think this will give players on the fringes of the squad more motivation. Motivation isn't something he's lacked though, rather the opportunity. If he gets consistent game time I think he gets at least 10 goals this season. If he was given the game time boyce has been given, he would score more goals, far better finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Euan really needs us to sign only 1 striker to have a decent amount of game time. If we bring in Shankland and Simms he's going to struggle. If we only sign 1 of the 2 he's got a chance to stake a claim. That just translates as if we sign a good goalscorer he won't get a chance because he isn't good enough. If he is good enough he'll play irrespective of who we sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Hope he's bulked up then. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bauld said: That just translates as if we sign a good goalscorer he won't get a chance because he isn't good enough. If he is good enough he'll play irrespective of who we sign. Em .... no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7PNJ4 Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, ShadyAcres said: I know what your saying but "a run" that someone made 2 years ago isn't much to go on. He will be given a fair crack in preseason I'm sure. The run was an example to show that despite limited opportunities he can do something that most can't when given the chance. Apply consistent game time and a strike partner that will allow him the space to run in behind defences and I think he scores goals. If he plays 33 games (15 starts) for Hearts this season and doesn't score ten I'll put £100 into the FOH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 He pretends to close players down and isnt really that effetive. Would love to be proved wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Euan will continue his career away from Hearts. Nothing against the lad, I just don't think he has the required ability to succeed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgieshed Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I don't buy if ur face doesn't fit cliche. At the end of the day, if ur good enough and professional then u will make it. If Henderson is good enough then he will play a part next season. From what I've seen, he isn't, for Hearts level anyway. That's not to say he hasn't progressed and could/hopefully prove me wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Bottom line if he is good enough he will play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 My eyes may have been deceiving me but in the highlights of the goals earlier it did look like he had bulked up a bit and so all for giving him a chance. I think he might surprise some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Think he should be around the 1st team, see if he has improved but I wouldn't want him to play just for the sake of it l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 He scored in two of his last three starts (at the end of the Championship season I admit). Didn't do much in 33 minutes of substitute appearances last season then went on loan and clocked up a 17 goals in 29 appearances on loan. He's now started in a pre-season friendly and notched up a goal and an assist. You can't really accuse him of not taking his chances on the pitch. Would like to see him given a few more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, number-16 said: He scored in two of his last three starts (at the end of the Championship season I admit). Didn't do much in 33 minutes of substitute appearances last season then went on loan and clocked up a 17 goals in 29 appearances on loan. He's now started in a pre-season friendly and notched up a goal and an assist. You can't really accuse him of not taking his chances on the pitch. Would like to see him given a few more of them. As I said in the transfer thread. We are due to produce a Hearts developed striker. Why not Henderson. He scored yesterday and provided the pass for GMS’s goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. The ball is in his court though and he has youth on his side and all he can do is work harder than anyone else and keep improving and hope his chance comes, when it does, we'll see. You can only score in games you're in, and he's scored bushels in the games he's been in. He needs to show it on the training pitch with the first team players but to imply that he hasn't done what he needs to do in his loans and bounce game appearances is just blinkered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. The ball is in his court though and he has youth on his side and all he can do is work harder than anyone else and keep improving and hope his chance comes, when it does, we'll see. Bit harsh but probably about right. Strikers thrive on confidence though and his success last season may give him the wee boost he needs to kick on. As you say, he’s still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 He's not the best striker we'll ever have but he's certainly nowhere near the worst. I really hope he takes his chance this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, stuart500 said: He's not the best striker we'll ever have but he's certainly nowhere near the worst. I really hope he takes his chance this season. True Gnando got plenty game time and produced he haw lad deserves a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Ffs, every season the same old pish. Why must we always do this. Do people live in Narnia? Or perhaps someone may come along and sprinkle magic dust on him? The boy is nowhere near SPL standard. Ffs, ***** on here a few seasons back saying Craig Wighton's time would come. Wighton struggles to hold down a place for Arbroath. The Scottish Championship is littered with young (ish) ex Hearts players. Most of these players, if not all have had one of these threads about him here on JKB. Henderson will NEVER and I mean NEVER make it at Hearts. Unless, of course we mean Kelty Hearts. I get no pleasure in saying all this, I wanted him to be the real deal and get signed by Man City for 50 million quid but the reality is it simply will not happen. He is simply not good enough for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Woke up and the first thread I go into, I agree with an i8 rant .. back to bed But fwiw, and I’ve said it for 3 seasons now - Henderson won’t make it at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Henderson got his goal yesterday but he missed 2 absolute sitters,the 1st one an open goal from 5 yards. He is short of the quality we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Finger in the air, I am going to guestimate that in the past 10 seasons there have been 50 of these type of threads. I am without any doubt that in the case of 99% of them, the player did not 'come good'. I even doubt the 1% success story but I am willing to admit that I may be wrong, for the life of me however I can't think of who the player could have been. I mean Craig Wighton ffs It was so very clear from day one that the boy was dug meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Never been convinced by his demeanour. Always felt he lacked guts as a game wore on. He’d start a game brightly then fade quickly. 22 now, not old but not young. At 22 you expect to see players starting to mature and look like they are capable of taking responsibility as a dependable first team player, but that ground work should’ve been well down the line by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 He done well in the championship season with limited chances and has had a standout loan spell. Its up to him now to impress in preseason. If he does he'll be about the squad. No one is suggesting he become our main striker, but as a squad rotation option or someone to look at from the bench we could do worse. In fact we did last season at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I can’t believe he’s still on the books tbh. Hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. The ball is in his court though and he has youth on his side and all he can do is work harder than anyone else and keep improving and hope his chance comes, when it does, we'll see. Geez did he pump your Mrs??! he’s done more than enough to deserve a shot, loan spells show that enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Bang average over his 50 appearances for Hearts So it’s up to him to step up. Osman Sow, Kyle Lafferty, Steven Naismith, Liam Boyce, Ellis Simms. That’s been the standard set for Hearts CFs in the last 5-6-7 years. We are looking for that level and better. Not up to the management team to “give him a chance” if he’s not up to that standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Poseidon said: My eyes may have been deceiving me but in the highlights of the goals earlier it did look like he had bulked up a bit and so all for giving him a chance. I think he might surprise some. These comments are puzzling . Whatever his qualities , or lack of them , he certainly didn't need to 'bulk up' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, john thomas said: These comments are puzzling . Whatever his qualities , or lack of them , he certainly didn't need to 'bulk up' Too easily brushed off the ball . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Its not so much a case of getting a chance, everyone gets a go pre season, its taking the chance and putting in the work to make yourself better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Euan really needs us to sign only 1 striker to have a decent amount of game time. If we bring in Shankland and Simms he's going to struggle. If we only sign 1 of the 2 he's got a chance to stake a claim. I like Euan and i believe he can do a job for us in a Wayne Foster impact style way but if we go into the season with him as even our 3rd striker then it kind of undoes all the good recruitment we have done in defence and midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Ffs, every season the same old pish. Why must we always do this. Do people live in Narnia? Or perhaps someone may come along and sprinkle magic dust on him? The boy is nowhere near SPL standard. Ffs, ***** on here a few seasons back saying Craig Wighton's time would come. Wighton struggles to hold down a place for Arbroath. The Scottish Championship is littered with young (ish) ex Hearts players. Most of these players, if not all have had one of these threads about him here on JKB. Henderson will NEVER and I mean NEVER make it at Hearts. Unless, of course we mean Kelty Hearts. I get no pleasure in saying all this, I wanted him to be the real deal and get signed by Man City for 50 million quid but the reality is it simply will not happen. He is simply not good enough for us. Nailed on now to score 20 min this season, and secure a $5m move to the English Championship at the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 If he is on more than 400 a week we are being robbed. He might have a small role this season due to the Euro games and the pressure it puts on the squad though so prob worth him hanging around,otherwise he should be released as never gonna start regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFHearts Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. He's done the square root of Jack Shit to deserve a chance no matter what punters on here think. The ball is in his court though and he has youth on his side and all he can do is work harder than anyone else and keep improving and hope his chance comes, when it does, we'll see. Hope Hendos looking thinking thank f vc i checked KB for advice Edited July 1, 2022 by SCFHearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 11 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: He's nowhere near good enough to maintain a 1st team place, miles away from it in fact. Can I ask when the last time you saw him play? Almost as ridiculous as me saying he might be the new Gareth Bale who was regarded as guff when he signed for Spurs then blossomed into a 5 Champions league medal winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Few frillies in a twist on here from the experts. Let's see how many times he plays for the big boys team, I'll just go with appearances, because I doubt he'll get many, never mind goals. Also never realised pre-season friendlies was where all the world's top scouts hang out for spotting talent. The new Gareth Bale ? Every day's a school day on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, jr ewing said: Too easily brushed off the ball . That may be true at times but think he just has to learn to use his strength better . Not unusual in young guys . Certainly doesn't need to bulk up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Churchill Barrier said: If he was given the game time boyce has been given, he would score more goals, far better finisher. Sums it up perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Churchill Barrier said: If he was given the game time boyce has been given, he would score more goals, far better finisher. If he was as good an all round player as Boyce he would have been given that game time. I really do hope he grabs his chance this year, though. Edited July 1, 2022 by Dick Dastardly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 No issues him get a chance where needed but my feeling is he isn't good enough for where we are going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) The fact is he was recalled last season after looking good for Alloa and Robbie still didn't give him a chance when we were short of strikers. To me that suggests he doesn't cut it in training. Hopefully he will work hard to get a proper chance again. Edited July 1, 2022 by All roads lead to Gorgie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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