Victorian Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cade said: None of this sad and tragic saga has been doing anybody any good. Not Archie, not his family, not the medical staff. Everybody involved has been badly affected by what's been going on. The longer it's been dragged on, the more lasting harm it's done to everyone involved. I hope his family get proper support after he's gone. And I hope someone keeps the vultures off their backs. I fear that those groups with vested interests or other agendas will be convincing them to keep fighting in the courts after he's passed, launching all sorts of frivolous suits against the medical staff, the hospital and anybody else they can think of. Yeah the hearse chasing vermin will be lurking. One thing pretty clear is that this family have not had the benefit of having someone advising them with the best intentions at the front of the agenda. They've been strung along quite badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, Victorian said: Yeah the hearse chasing vermin will be lurking. One thing pretty clear is that this family have not had the benefit of having someone advising them with the best intentions at the front of the agenda. They've been strung along quite badly. Christian Concern have said that the family have applied to the ECHR claiming that Archie's human rights have been infringed, namely article's 6 and 8. These religious nutters are using this family for their own warped agenda and are going to string this out as much as they can. Christian Concern said later that Archie's family had applied to the ECHR, arguing there was a violation of articles six and eight of the European Convention on Human Rights. Article six is the right to a fair trial and article eight is the right to respect for private and family life. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62424659 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said: Christian Concern have said that the family have applied to the ECHR claiming that Archie's human rights have been infringed, namely article's 6 and 8. These religious nutters are using this family for their own warped agenda and are going to string this out as much as they can. Christian Concern said later that Archie's family had applied to the ECHR, arguing there was a violation of articles six and eight of the European Convention on Human Rights. Article six is the right to a fair trial and article eight is the right to respect for private and family life. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62424659 They must have plenty money though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Christian Concern have said that the family have applied to the ECHR claiming that Archie's human rights have been infringed, namely article's 6 and 8. These religious nutters are using this family for their own warped agenda and are going to string this out as much as they can. Christian Concern said later that Archie's family had applied to the ECHR, arguing there was a violation of articles six and eight of the European Convention on Human Rights. Article six is the right to a fair trial and article eight is the right to respect for private and family life. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62424659 They needed a trusted cool head in their support circle to shield them from this crusade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 ECHR has just said that it will not intervene in this case (Sky News). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Having been in an unfortunate similar situation all I can really say is It's truly a very sad story but Doctors would never offer you anything but honesty. If they're saying he's brain dead then thats what the wee lad is. My daughter was just a day old but the Doctors broke it to us that she was going to die and it was only a matter of time. When the ventilator was switched off for my wee yin it was our decision and on our terms and we got to spend her last moments with her. I dont think I could have coped if she had passed while I was asleep, or at the toilet, or getting something to eat if we had said to keep her on it indefinitely. It feels like his parents have dragged out the inevitable so long that letting go has been made much harder. And sadly now it's a decision that's been made without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Weakened Offender said: They're his parents. Can you imagine their position. Any hope is better than no hope. It is a horrible story. There is no hope, he's brain dead. Its not like he's going to pull through. If there were some miracle the boy will live his life as a vegetable. I wouldn't want that for my kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Herbert. said: There is no hope, he's brain dead. Its not like he's going to pull through. If there were some miracle the boy will live his life as a vegetable. I wouldn't want that for my kids. You should speak to them. I imagine that would do it, they'd see things more clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Der Kaiser said: Having been in an unfortunate similar situation all I can really say is It's truly a very sad story but Doctors would never offer you anything but honesty. If they're saying he's brain dead then thats what the wee lad is. My daughter was just a day old but the Doctors broke it to us that she was going to die and it was only a matter of time. When the ventilator was switched off for my wee yin it was our decision and on our terms and we got to spend her last moments with her. I dont think I could have coped if she had passed while I was asleep, or at the toilet, or getting something to eat if we had said to keep her on it indefinitely. It feels like his parents have dragged out the inevitable so long that letting go has been made much harder. And sadly now it's a decision that's been made without them. Sorry for your loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Weakened Offender said: You should speak to them. I imagine that would do it, they'd see things more clearly. Why don't they keep him on a machine unconscious for the next 50years just to make it easy for them? The boys dead time for them to come to terms with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 52 minutes ago, Herbert. said: Why don't they keep him on a machine unconscious for the next 50years just to make it easy for them? The boys dead time for them to come to terms with it. Classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Christian Concern have said that the family have applied to the ECHR claiming that Archie's human rights have been infringed, namely article's 6 and 8. These religious nutters are using this family for their own warped agenda and are going to string this out as much as they can. Christian Concern said later that Archie's family had applied to the ECHR, arguing there was a violation of articles six and eight of the European Convention on Human Rights. Article six is the right to a fair trial and article eight is the right to respect for private and family life. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62424659 Thats religion for you. Any religion actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Der Kaiser said: Having been in an unfortunate similar situation all I can really say is It's truly a very sad story but Doctors would never offer you anything but honesty. If they're saying he's brain dead then thats what the wee lad is. My daughter was just a day old but the Doctors broke it to us that she was going to die and it was only a matter of time. When the ventilator was switched off for my wee yin it was our decision and on our terms and we got to spend her last moments with her. I dont think I could have coped if she had passed while I was asleep, or at the toilet, or getting something to eat if we had said to keep her on it indefinitely. It feels like his parents have dragged out the inevitable so long that letting go has been made much harder. And sadly now it's a decision that's been made without them. Very sorry to read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Thats religion for you. Any religion actually. The sad fact here is that in cases such as this, the ones where there are multiple court cases/challenges, you'll usually find some religious group involved somewhere in it all, either by funding or advising the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Sadly passed away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Very sorry to read this. 4 hours ago, Spitonastranger said: Sorry for your loss Cheers. Sad the wee lad has passed but the right decision IMHO. Hope the family can grieve in peace now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Der Kaiser said: Having been in an unfortunate similar situation all I can really say is It's truly a very sad story but Doctors would never offer you anything but honesty. If they're saying he's brain dead then thats what the wee lad is. My daughter was just a day old but the Doctors broke it to us that she was going to die and it was only a matter of time. When the ventilator was switched off for my wee yin it was our decision and on our terms and we got to spend her last moments with her. I dont think I could have coped if she had passed while I was asleep, or at the toilet, or getting something to eat if we had said to keep her on it indefinitely. It feels like his parents have dragged out the inevitable so long that letting go has been made much harder. And sadly now it's a decision that's been made without them. Sorry to hear that DK. I know all too well the pain of losing a child at birth. RIP Archie 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 RIP young man. Such a tragic story and needless loss of a young life. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 What a sad case this has been all round. Rest in peace young laddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Let's hope that this tragic case remains in private now. I do not want the media circus to continue. Give the family some space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cade said: Let's hope that this tragic case remains in private now. I do not want the media circus to continue. Give the family some space. Going forwards is this something which needs looked at, perhaps making these kind of cases private. As soon as they go to court it's a media circus, then the religious lot get involved and then the polarisation of the public begins. This case has had around about a dozen court hearings & appeals, I wonder if there would have been as many if there had been no publicity, and surely having all these court cases and the subsequent media circus which follows them, are in nobody's best interests. Anyway that's all for future discussion, the most important thing right now is that the laddie is finally at peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Going forwards is this something which needs looked at, perhaps making these kind of cases private. As soon as they go to court it's a media circus, then the religious lot get involved and then the polarisation of the public begins. This case has had around about a dozen court hearings & appeals, I wonder if there would have been as many if there had been no publicity, and surely having all these court cases and the subsequent media circus which follows them, are in nobody's best interests. Anyway that's all for future discussion, the most important thing right now is that the laddie is finally at peace. Most are kept private. If the court decisions are publicised they are anonymised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Herbert. said: Why don't they keep him on a machine unconscious for the next 50years just to make it easy for them? The boys dead time for them to come to terms with it. His other organs would have deteriorated and he would died but it would have been slowly and drawn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 RIP Archie. I’m not sure where this is going* but, I don’t think we’ve seen the end of this tragic story. One thing that stands out today (for me anyway) that questions the advice she’s been given, if any, behind the scenes by someone (i’m not ITK by the way) but, why would you take the last pictures of your dying child and have them posted on national news a few hours after? this would have been a very special moment for the family to cherish the memory of Archie in his last living moments. *. Will we have a media blackout for the funeral, I don’t think so……….will we have a rag front page special on the whole episode, likely possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Cade said: Let's hope that this tragic case remains in private now. I do not want the media circus to continue. Give the family some space. Wasn't the "media circus" largely driven by the parents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 This is the group that has been supporting their legal challenges. https://christianconcern.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Wasn't the "media circus" largely driven by the parents? That’s the point I made in the post above……the mum has not been shy in fronting up to the cameras, I mean your child has just died in hospital any you've given his last living pictures to the media and jumped in front of the TV cameras within hours………….I believe there’s more to come from this imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 A tragic story and I don't agree with the actions of the parents at all. Easy to see logic from the outside though and I'm not going to criticise the acts of desperate people who wanted to cling onto the last bit of hope that their kid would somehow survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Cade said: Let's hope that this tragic case remains in private now. I do not want the media circus to continue. Give the family some space. They don’t seem to want the ‘space’ though, Cade. This story is reminiscent, although very different, of the parents in the Madeleine story. We’ve not heard the last of this by a long chalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Having dealt with end of life cases,some involving infants and childrens hospices etc I'm actually disgusted the family dragged things out for as long as possible. In no way was their primary concern for their child. Absolute tragic case. RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Might need to retract my earlier comments. Yes mate because I’m sure shanko has independently fact-checked all that - and in no way passed on that pile of poison just on the off-chance that it might be true (even if it actually is) for what it’s worth I particularly liked your original post where you disagreed with the actions of the parents but recognised that desperate people can do desperate things - probably in part fuelled by the (false) hope that their son could make a miracle recovery like the young boy(now back playing football) who was just about to get operated on to donate his organs as he was given no-hope zero 0% chance of recovery by the team of experts looking after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) Sorry I didn’t want to say this (I’ve had a glass of wine*) but, I would suggest there is an element of kerching 💰💰💰 involved in this sad episode, hope I’m wrong though but, the mum looks like she’d be happy with a full blown front page red rag about her injustice’s. * Edited August 6, 2022 by highlandjambo3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 8 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said: Sorry I didn’t want to say this (I’ve had a glass of wine*) but, I would suggest there is an element of kerching 💰💰💰 involved in this sad episode, hope I’m wrong though but, the mum looks like she’d be happy with a full blown front page red rag about her injustice’s. * It has slight ‘Captain Tom’ feels about it. Desperately sad, but for the life of me I cannot understand the thought process of putting pictures of your dead child out to the press. The picture of the cuddly toy balanced on the poor boys head is crass. The mum will be on Loose Women in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I haven't read through the whole of this thread so don't know if it's been covered, but - and here I hope I don't come across as tasteless or crass. Two things - first, what was the wee lad watching online at the time of whatever happened to him? What was the `challenge`. It's been alluded to in the media but no details. Is it dangerous to other young people? is it being investigated? Secondly, why was the young lad home alone? Probably not appropriate to pursue that in the circumstances, but a lesson for other parents surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 55 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: It has slight ‘Captain Tom’ feels about it. Desperately sad, but for the life of me I cannot understand the thought process of putting pictures of your dead child out to the press. The picture of the cuddly toy balanced on the poor boys head is crass. The mum will be on Loose Women in no time. Agreed, this very sad story is going to become the mother’s income and comparing to Captain Tom is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: I haven't read through the whole of this thread so don't know if it's been covered, but - and here I hope I don't come across as tasteless or crass. Two things - first, what was the wee lad watching online at the time of whatever happened to him? What was the `challenge`. It's been alluded to in the media but no details. Is it dangerous to other young people? is it being investigated? Secondly, why was the young lad home alone? Probably not appropriate to pursue that in the circumstances, but a lesson for other parents surely. Several children have died in various countries while "playing" an online game of dare where they are challenged by others to asphyxiate themselves to the point of unconciousness. This may not be what happened to Archie and there may be other internet games that cause brain death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I can only speak for myself, that if I found myself in a similar situation, I'd want to know whether my child was alive or dead. Which is why I am puzzled why Archie's parents had refused to allow such testing as a brain stem cell test to determine whether Archie was alive or dead, I know I would have allowed it, simply because I'd want to know, one way or another, but for whatever reason Archie's parents refused and thereby didn't get confirmation whether he was still alive or indeed dead. Perhaps, maybe they didn't want to know, didn't want to know the truth, that their child was in fact dead. This is how this case ended up in court, it wasn't about the removal of Archie's life support, that came about later, it was intially about the hospital seeking permission from the high court to carry out vital testing, such as brain stem cell testing, which the family had refused permission for the hospital to carry out. When Archie's mother stood on the steps of the high court telling the media, that it was the first time in history that someone had been declared dead via an MRI scan, and that no other tests had been carried out, whilst failing to mention that it was the family who'd refused permission for those other tests, that's when alarm bells started to ring in my head, because as usual we only ever hear one side of the story, usually the family's or those representing them's version of events. As others have said, I don't think we've heard the last of this case, as I do think there is more to come out about the circumstances of how Archie ended up in hospital in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I just read up about the mum Holly she's a ****ing roaster. She even accused the hospital of killing Archie for his organs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Horatio Caine said: I haven't read through the whole of this thread so don't know if it's been covered, but - and here I hope I don't come across as tasteless or crass. Two things - first, what was the wee lad watching online at the time of whatever happened to him? What was the `challenge`. It's been alluded to in the media but no details. Is it dangerous to other young people? is it being investigated? Secondly, why was the young lad home alone? Probably not appropriate to pursue that in the circumstances, but a lesson for other parents surely. Most of what I've read or heard would suggest that the tiktok thing is not a factor. 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I can only speak for myself, that if I found myself in a similar situation, I'd want to know whether my child was alive or dead. Which is why I am puzzled why Archie's parents had refused to allow such testing as a brain stem cell test to determine whether Archie was alive or dead, I know I would have allowed it, simply because I'd want to know, one way or another, but for whatever reason Archie's parents refused and thereby didn't get confirmation whether he was still alive or indeed dead. Perhaps, maybe they didn't want to know, didn't want to know the truth, that their child was in fact dead. This is how this case ended up in court, it wasn't about the removal of Archie's life support, that came about later, it was intially about the hospital seeking permission from the high court to carry out vital testing, such as brain stem cell testing, which the family had refused permission for the hospital to carry out. When Archie's mother stood on the steps of the high court telling the media, that it was the first time in history that someone had been declared dead via an MRI scan, and that no other tests had been carried out, whilst failing to mention that it was the family who'd refused permission for those other tests, that's when alarm bells started to ring in my head, because as usual we only ever hear one side of the story, usually the family's or those representing them's version of events. As others have said, I don't think we've heard the last of this case, as I do think there is more to come out about the circumstances of how Archie ended up in hospital in the first place. My understanding is that the medics went to do an MRI but that in a pre-test they found that his brain was not sufficiently responsive for that to be worthwhile. The mother has been desperately clutching at straws and listening to whatever advice or false hope sounds the most positive. She's not the best educated and this makes her easy prey for some shysters. Unfortunately, I fear that the "more to come" will not paint her in the best light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 We should fill hospitals with mothers and sack all the doctors. Mother's instinct outweighs medical qualifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Parents now want a public inquiry into the role of the NHS & the High Court Family Division in end of life cases, and have claimed that they were "stripped of all our rights". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62455467 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Parents now want a public inquiry into the role of the NHS & the High Court Family Division in end of life cases, and have claimed that they were "stripped of all our rights". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62455467 Tossers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Parents now want a public inquiry into the role of the NHS & the High Court Family Division in end of life cases, and have claimed that they were "stripped of all our rights". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62455467 Ffs can they not just get on with mourning their son. Maybe they feel responsible in some way and are lashing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Parents now want a public inquiry into the role of the NHS & the High Court Family Division in end of life cases, and have claimed that they were "stripped of all our rights". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62455467 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Horatio Caine said: I haven't read through the whole of this thread so don't know if it's been covered, but - and here I hope I don't come across as tasteless or crass. Two things - first, what was the wee lad watching online at the time of whatever happened to him? What was the `challenge`. It's been alluded to in the media but no details. Is it dangerous to other young people? is it being investigated? Secondly, why was the young lad home alone? Probably not appropriate to pursue that in the circumstances, but a lesson for other parents surely. 4 hours ago, I P Knightley said: Most of what I've read or heard would suggest that the tiktok thing is not a factor. Tiktok have released a statement stating that the alleged challenge wasn't on their platform. I assume we shall find out what happened in the coming weeks. https://propermanchester.com/trending/calls-to-ban-kids-from-dangerous-tiktok-after-archie-battersbee-tragedy/ Quote However, TikTok has denied ever having this trend on its platform, saying it ‘removes any contact that promotes dangerous behaviour that could cause harm’. A spokesperson said: “Nothing is more important to us than the safety and wellbeing of our community, especially our younger community members. Our community guidelines make clear that we do not tolerate content that promotes dangerous acts that may lead to harm. “We have taken a series of proactive steps to protect our users and to educate them on the potential dangers of online challenges, including an in-app guide, developed with leading youth safety experts.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dazo said: Ffs can they not just get on with mourning their son. Maybe they feel responsible in some way and are lashing out. There certainly appears to be an element of this plus a morbid enjoyment of the attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: There certainly appears to be an element of this plus a morbid enjoyment of the attention. Yep, it just seems so unhealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 The family are off to Thailand in September, The older brother was bragging on Facebook about his 12k holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, Dazo said: Ffs can they not just get on with mourning their son. Maybe they feel responsible in some way and are lashing out. I think most parents would feel some responsibility and even guilt in the circumstances. These seem to be an exception in that they blame every one else but that may be a symptom of grief I suppose. I find it a bit strange that none of their anger seems to be directed at the players and platforms of the internet game that they have said they suspect killed their son. Parents of victims in the States took court action against the web sites supporting the "game" rather than the doctors treating the victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Francis Albert said: I think most parents would feel some responsibility and even guilt in the circumstances. These seem to be an exception in that they blame every one else but that may be a symptom of grief I suppose. I find it a bit strange that none of their anger seems to be directed at the players and platforms of the internet game that they have said they suspect killed their son. Parents of victims in the States took court action against the web sites supporting the "game" rather than the doctors treating the victims. Yeah I agree. I think guilt/responsibility is definitely part of grieving but there seems more to this. Talk of stripped of their rights or inquiries into the nhs doesn’t sit right. I mean surely for a start it’s Archie’s rights they should be concerned about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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