Dazo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, milky_26 said: yep they are really weak. i would also add if the roles were reversed and labout were in power the current tory MPs would be just as weak The main if not sole reason Boris is currently still in the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Dazo said: Really ? Have you seen the labour front bench ? Who would vote for that lot ? Yep agree. Missed opportunity for them at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: Yep agree. Missed opportunity for them at the moment They have had years to get their act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Dazo said: They have had years to get their act together. MPs like Raynor and Abbott make them unelectable at the moment plus any of Corbyns pals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, milky_26 said: yep they are really weak. i would also add if the roles were reversed and labout were in power the current tory MPs would be just as weak Agreed. IMHO we have the poorest quality of Politician I can ever remember, right across the board. And the trend is continuing in a downward spiral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 What’s the breakdown of votes needed? I’ve had a look but can’t find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: MPs like Raynor and Abbott make them unelectable at the moment plus any of Corbyns pals i would say it goes all the way back to the unions getting ed milliband elected as leader over david milliband. IMO it seemed like the unions thought they could use him as a puppet but the one thing they did not account for was him not being the right person to be a party leader, yes have him as a miniter but not a party leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imaman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 19 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Remember you can only have 1 of these votes per year according to Tory rules. Tory rules are easily broken as we have witnessed lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i would say it goes all the way back to the unions getting ed milliband elected as leader over david milliband. IMO it seemed like the unions thought they could use him as a puppet but the one thing they did not account for was him not being the right person to be a party leader, yes have him as a miniter but not a party leader Genuinely thought when Starmer came along he would provide decent opposition. He's currently proving me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 14 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: MPs like Raynor and Abbott make them unelectable at the moment plus any of Corbyns pals Abbott’s a backbencher and well out the way. I agree about Raynor though. A complete embarrassment, lacking in decorum. Her scum comment was silly. Can’t say stuff like that in that sort of position. Corbyn’s pals are being weeded out or sent to the back-benches. But there’s always a danger of them coming back to the fore with a new leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 17 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said: Agreed. IMHO we have the poorest quality of Politician I can ever remember, right across the board. And the trend is continuing in a downward spiral. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i would say it goes all the way back to the unions getting ed milliband elected as leader over david milliband. IMO it seemed like the unions thought they could use him as a puppet but the one thing they did not account for was him not being the right person to be a party leader, yes have him as a miniter but not a party leader That was a big moment. I expect the Tories we’re delighted when Labour didn’t elect David Milliband. He’s not coming back any time soon either - happily settled in New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Good luck Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Looking forward to cabinet members claiming in the not too distant future that they didn't actually want Johnson to remain as PM but they had to support him as it just wasn't the right time to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 where's wee doogz and the governor general? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Get him out ffs. the way he’s clinging on is an embarrassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, RobboM said: This is a first for me but "I'm Backing Boris" 😂 Hoping the Eton Mess leads the Tories to at least a decade of opposition Opposition to who exactly? Sir Kneel Starmer? Unfortunately for the country the bar is at the lowest lever ever for politicians of ability and scruples. Regardless of the colour of the rosette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Get him out ffs. the way he’s clinging on is an embarrassment As there has been no official vote he's nothing to really "cling' onto as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 His letter 😂 Even the serial halfwits on here would have a job swallowing that utter balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Another letter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 54 minutes ago, Shanks said: What’s the breakdown of votes needed? I’ve had a look but can’t find anything. Straight majority needed for him to win the vote I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 21 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: where's wee doogz and the governor general? 😂 Mibbees aye, mibbees naw ! Don't think wee dug knows what way to go ! A snake ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Ben Wallace should run for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, dobmisterdobster said: Late 2023 or 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Nadine Dorries has chosen to attack Jeremy Hunt one possible successor to Boris. Going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I hope he stays and triggers a section 30 which would help the Tories win in rUk forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: Remember you can only have 1 of these votes per year according to Tory rules. That is something the tory MP's are going to have to consider very very carefully, because if he wins tonight and then somehow manages to cling on until this time next year, that then leaves a new leader probably only a year to turn the tories around. I think everyone accepts that BoJo will not lead the tories into the next GE, and that has to take place by January 2025, however I don't see another winter GE, therefore my guess would be autumn 2024, if so that then leaves a new leader a little over a year, to steady the ship, turn the tories fortunes around, put their own stamp on policies and fight a GE, just seems to be a bit of a tall order to me. That is why I think BoJo could be in trouble tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 25 minutes ago, graygo said: Straight majority needed for him to win the vote I think. 50% +1 vote, so they said on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 41 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Opposition to who exactly? Sir Kneel Starmer? Unfortunately for the country the bar is at the lowest lever ever for politicians of ability and scruples. Regardless of the colour of the rosette. I used to think the same but, I now think they've always been this bad, it's just that back in the day the got away with more with no social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Smithee said: In some ways that would be ideal but I fear the damage their staying in power with a majority would inevitably do in the short term. England don't care, he gave them Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 ....the country we love. Bring a tear to a glass eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: That is something the tory MP's are going to have to consider very very carefully, because if he wins tonight and then somehow manages to cling on until this time next year, that then leaves a new leader probably only a year to turn the tories around. I think everyone accepts that BoJo will not lead the tories into the next GE, and that has to take place by January 2025, however I don't see another winter GE, therefore my guess would be autumn 2024, if so that then leaves a new leader a little over a year, to steady the ship, turn the tories fortunes around, put their own stamp on policies and fight a GE, just seems to be a bit of a tall order to me. That is why I think BoJo could be in trouble tonight. A year is a lifetime in UK politics. I think electing literally any other Tory as leader would be enough for any doubters to vote them back into power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Why do folk think Rishi is toxic. Tories love the super Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Why do folk think Rishi is toxic. Tories love the super Rich. They need to draw a line under partygate, so whoever replaces Johnson, will have never been anywhere near any of the parties. If Sunak became leader he'd have to fight the next GE with questions of partygate and his fine being fired at him constantly, that would be too much of an unwanted distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 14 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Why do folk think Rishi is toxic. Tories love the super Rich. Tory members vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dobmisterdobster Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just discovered my MP will be voting in favour of Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Mogg reckons every party has 15% who are disgruntled and BJ should stay. He said the 15% that were against May showed that she should leave 🤔🤷🏾♂️😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithee Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 6 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: Just discovered my MP will be voting in favour of Boris. Probably heard about how much his constituents have been defending this government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 13 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: What a boy. 😂 Certainly knows how to climb the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Mogg reckons every party has 15% who are disgruntled and BJ should stay. He said the 15% that were against May showed that she should leave 🤔🤷🏾♂️😂. A twat's a twat, even if does speak in RP and drop in Latin phrases from time to time. All that education and privilege, and ultimately, all he's doing with it is lining his own pockets and behaving like any greasy politician the world over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Shanks said: What’s the breakdown of votes needed? I’ve had a look but can’t find anything. 180 votes would force him out. As someone said, 50% plus one. 2 hours ago, Imaman said: Tory rules are easily broken as we have witnessed lately. When it happened to Teresa May, she was nowhere near the 50% (200 v 117) but it was enough of a doing to convince her the game was up. ****s like Gove, Mogg, Johnson & co circling and conspiring against her; I never blamed her for bugging out, except for the fact that it left the field clear for Johnson. 21 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Mogg reckons every party has 15% who are disgruntled and BJ should stay. He said the 15% that were against May showed that she should leave 🤔🤷🏾♂️😂. Apparently he's gone on record today to say that even if Johnson survives by one vote it will be enough. When his previous comment (that a third of the MPs voting against her meant that May should go) was brought up, he said that he'd reflected on that and realised he'd been wrong. I strongly doubt, despite his strong Catholic beliefs, he made an apology to May for this error which helped to see her on her way. Effing nasty piece of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Nadine Dorries has chosen to attack Jeremy Hunt one possible successor to Boris. Going for it. If you are wanting a laugh, Nadine Dorries is having a very public meltdown and appears to have confirmed that not only did the government not prepare for the pandemic but she actively ignored a plan that could have saved thousands of lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: 50% +1 vote, so they said on the news. Which was a straight majority when I went to school, admittedly a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 15 minutes ago, Bozi said: If you are wanting a laugh, Nadine Dorries is having a very public meltdown and appears to have confirmed that not only did the government not prepare for the pandemic but she actively ignored a plan that could have saved thousands of lives Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Big dog to win is 1/5 on bet365. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Isn't it a wee bit strange just how much Nadine Dorries is attacking her colleague Jeremy Hunt on the very day the party are voting on Boris ? A cynic might wonder if Boris's sexual penchant for vacuous blonde bimbos extended further then we previously thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 6 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Isn't it a wee bit strange just how much Nadine Dorries is attacking her colleague Jeremy Hunt on the very day the party are voting on Boris ? A cynic might wonder if Boris's sexual penchant for vacuous blonde bimbos extended further then we previously thought. 100% she's been hanging off the end of the custard pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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