JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 THAT sam is dead scruffy looking really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 Feck all about music this year, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: THAT sam is dead scruffy looking really I thought you liked them rough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 UK 466? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, FWJ said: Feck all about music this year, then. If it was, half of the failed semi finalists would be here and most of the dross on offer tonight wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: THAT sam is dead scruffy looking really Hair an afghan hound would be proud of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, FWJ said: Feck all about music this year, then. Never is apart from " making your mind up" or " waterloo" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 slava ukraini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: UK 466? Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, FWJ said: Feck all about music this year, then. Not been about music in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Well done boys. 2nd. Well done Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 The difference between the Jury and the Public really exposes the political stuff (which is all the Jury votes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, redjambo said: I thought you liked them rough? I meant rough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Well the UK voted for the Ukraine so only ourselves to blame. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 This year second is first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Barack said: Shouldn't the Ukrainian lads be conscripted anyway?🤔 They were given permission to travel for Eurovision by the President himself. One of the band chose to stay behind and fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 We hold the record for the most second places - now at 16 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 wish he would take the tea caddy towel off his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Coming on top of Spain is a win as far as I’m concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Mon the Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, FWJ said: We hold the record for the most second places - now at 16 times always the bridesmaid you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, FWJ said: We hold the record for the most second places - now at 16 times u get nowt for second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Virtue signalling arseholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Irish and UK public votes give 12 votes to Ukraine. If my sums are right, Ukraine averaged 11.5 votes per national public vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Ukraine would like to thank, Vladimir Putin, for their victory in the 2022 European song contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cade said: slava ukraini Absolutely. 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cade said: The difference between the Jury and the Public really exposes the political stuff (which is all the Jury votes). Sorry Cade, but in a year when all of Europe voted for an average song just to vote for Ukraine you're not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Hair an afghan hound would be proud of. Or Austin McPhee 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Coming on top of Spain is a win as far as I’m concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Irish and UK public votes give 12 votes to Ukraine. If my sums are right, Ukraine averaged 11.5 votes per national public vote. 40 x 12 is 480. How many did they get? 436? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Aside from the obvious, I think Ukraine deserved to win anyway. Their song was ace. Got a real early to mid 90s feel to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Ulysses said: Sorry Cade, but in a year when all of Europe voted for an average song just to vote for Ukraine you're not right. So this year's complaint is that 200million members of the public chose to vote for Ukraine for political reasons. And the Jury votes (which are usually the politically scored votes) should be all that mattered, just because they put the UK at the top? At least you're not bitter 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: That's the very gif I thought of when I read that post. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: Or Austin McPhee 😄 Or Jennifer Aniston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, FWJ said: 40 x 12 is 480. How many did they get? 436? Sorry, 439, not 459. So just about 11 per national vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 We won the singing. That's the main thing 🙂 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: Sorry, 439, not 459. So just about 11 per national vote. (Sorry I didn’t mean my post to sound so hostile! I’m a bit Linda Martin right now….) I remember seeing a TV show she was on - it was a chat show or something and she took a dislike to someone in the audience. Tell you what, you’d want her in your side in a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: Or Jennifer Aniston. Nailed it 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 I wonder if Russia will even report it? Other middle-eastern countries pull the plug if Israel win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Pleased for Ukraine. look forward to Russia hosting it next year. 👀 Well done to Sam too. Just shows what choosing a viral (for singing ability) social media personality can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Barack said: Eastern Bloc 17. 👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, redjambo said: I thought you liked them rough? THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, FWJ said: I wonder if Russia will even report it? Other middle-eastern countries pull the plug if Israel win. Eurovision launches attack on Russia will be the take on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Well done Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just realised it’s 12 x 39 (because they can’t vote for themselves) 468 So they got 439 out of a possible 468… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Putin must be shitting himself after that result. Edited May 15, 2022 by jackal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_fae_Gillie Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Get the feeling Putin invaded UKR just to screw UK out of winning Eurovision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 UK every other year: "The Jury votes are overly political and rigged! Eurovision is a sham!" UK this year: "The Public vote is overly political! Eurovision is a sham! We should have stuck with the result from those lovely impartial Juries!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Cade said: So this year's complaint is that 200million members of the public chose to vote for Ukraine for political reasons. And the Jury votes (which are usually the politically scored votes) should be all that mattered, just because they put the UK at the top? At least you're not bitter 🙄 You said that: 1 hour ago, Cade said: The difference between the Jury and the Public really exposes the political stuff (which is all the Jury votes). The public votes were clearly political. Massively so, almost 100% so. They were a public response to the Russian invasion. So regardless of how political the jury votes are, the notion that the public vote "exposes the political stuff (which is all the Jury votes)" doesn't stack up. Politics will always come into play in jury and public votes, with neighbours voting for neighbours and all that stuff, but the fact that national juries are made up of performers, writers and critics means that some recognition of the quality of songwriting and performance has a chance of coming into play. But regardless of how political the two lots of votes are, the main difference between the jury and public votes isn't that one is more political than the other - it's simply that the political dynamics are different. Apologies, but your original assertion really doesn't hold up. The political stuff doesn't get exposed by one vote or the other - they are both political, in their own different ways. By the way, can you explain this line? "At least you're not bitter 🙄 " Given that I had no dog in this particular fight, I'm not sure what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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