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5 hours ago, Wee Mikey said:

If you can't find either of your letters with the info required then simply phone the Covid 'hot-line'. They'll keep you right.

Thanks Mike - yes I did that for my daughter. I'm just a lazy s+d though and will wait and see if I have to!

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9 hours ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

Border control certainly haven't been checking every international arrivals vaccine status or covid tests in recent months, so maybe not the best analogy to iillustrate your point. 

 

They are however checking everyone's passport though...

 

It was a throwaway line, but I do believe if you think it's worth doing something, it's worth doing it right.

 

9 hours ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

 

As with the major events, border control know that the point of these measures isn't to elminate all risk, it is primarily to reduce risk by driving up compliance with guidelines on testing or vaccinating. Or to take another related example, customs don't stop and search everyone entering the country. They apply a spot check approach. That is enough to put most people off breaking the customs rules but doesn't stop all smuggling into the UK.

 

This measure for events will nudge some people to get the vaccine (or the second dose of the vaccine) and persuade some people who aren't vaccinated not to go and join large crowds. Both reduce overall health risk at minimal social or economic cost, which is the aim of public health policy.

 

 

Does is reduce the overall health risk vs keeping LFTs as a means of obtaining a passport as per the trial events? Or does it just save cost. I'm feeling it's the latter but happy to be shown otherwise.

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Just now, willie wallace said:

Spot checks only and under 18s exempt.

I would never have got in as a teenager if there were spot checks in those days. 😎

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19 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Passports currently being challenged in court. It is lunacy to introduce them months after stadiums have been open to fans. Plus obviously England have dumped the idea so it really is pointless wasting large sums of cash on a system that is not required, as if it was required they should have done it before opening things up.

System is already working.

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1 minute ago, davemclaren said:

I would never have got in as a teenager if there were spot checks in those days. 😎

Don't think many of us would have😥

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Going to be in Scotland next week and would love to attend. Have they worked out how they're processing non-NHS Scotland passports yet?

 

 

Just read the full release from Hearts and they don't mention it so I'm guessing they have got it sorted. Good news!! 

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davemclaren
1 minute ago, Taffin said:

Going to be in Scotland next week and would love to attend. Have they worked out how they're processing non-NHS Scotland passports yet?

My mate’s up from Manchester for the match as well. I did read somewhere that NHS England apps would be fine as well. 

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Just now, davemclaren said:

My mate’s up from Manchester for the match as well. I did read somewhere that NHS England apps would be fine as well. 

 

Fingers crossed Dave.

 

It was this on the Scot Gov website that makes me nervous:

 

'We are working with other UK jurisdictions to ensure inter-operability across the UK. Guidance will be issued on this, and on what evidence people vaccinated outside the UK will be required to provide, before implementation.'

 

That was updated yesterday so they've only 7 days to rectify it. The English 'passport' still says 'valid in England'...though that doesn't mean it's not valid elsewhere I guess.

 

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Absolute Scenes

what do they mean by spot checks? Spot checks of negative LF tests? Spot checks on Vaccines? Spot checks on high temperature?

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1 minute ago, Absolute Scenes said:

what do they mean by spot checks? Spot checks of negative LF tests? Spot checks on Vaccines? Spot checks on high temperature?

Vaccine status. 

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16 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

Vaccination proof and of lateral flow test. 

I don’t understand. Where does it work? 

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Just now, Rudolf said:

I don’t understand. Where does it work? 

TRNSMT and Let's Rock had it in place last week and 3 weeks ago. Worked perfectly well.

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21 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

TRNSMT and Let's Rock had it in place last week and 3 weeks ago. Worked perfectly well.

The new rules weren’t in place last week. 

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Sir Craig Gordon

Not due my second jag until the 10th November so will miss the Motherwell, Dundee & Dundee united game. £30 for the 3 games, section N lower. PM if anyone is interested.

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8 minutes ago, Rudolf said:

The new rules weren’t in place last week. 

No, but system worked well enough in both of those venues and for many more people. 😀

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Absolute Scenes

I'm a season ticket holder, what happens if i dont have a vaccine passport. Am i going to be refunded each game i'm denied access to?

 

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14 minutes ago, bairdy said:

Got my document this morning,re proof of double doses.

Very efficient, I only phoned them for it a few days ago.

👍well organised.

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9 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

22k at one over 50k at the other. Hope they use the same system for more venues. 

All arriving 15 mins before the start I presume? 

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1 hour ago, Rudolf said:

There will be people in the same boat as you mate and many others that have had both jabs but either  haven’t asked for one, don’t have the facility to print one off or don’t have a smart phone what happens with them? Whole is is completely political. Let’s do this because England aren’t  shambles. 

Ticket office have no clue about refunds, you've to email them and they will pass it on to however will deal with this situation.

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8 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

Do you think?

No. But at the football the vast majority arrive 15 minutes or less before causing massive queues as you’ve seen. 
 

the point is, you’re not comparing apples with apples. 
 

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2 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said:

I'm a season ticket holder, what happens if i dont have a vaccine passport. Am i going to be refunded each game i'm denied access to?

 

Possibly the same as last season. The SG says you can't go so the club provide you with a live stream.

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20 hours ago, 1953 said:

Possibly the same as last season. The SG says you can't go so the club provide you with a live stream.

The difference in experience from being at the game to watching it on a small screen is vast. I shouldn’t have to pay the same price to attend the games to watching it online. Not pleased but I supposed I still have a way of watching. It just grinds my gears I can’t be at the game because of personal choice 

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23 hours ago, Section N Rules said:

Not due my second jag until the 10th November so will miss the Motherwell, Dundee & Dundee united game. £30 for the 3 games, section N lower. PM if anyone is interested.

Go to vaccination drop in centre tomorrow and get 2nd jag.

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15 minutes ago, Biffa Bacon said:

Go to vaccination drop in centre tomorrow and get 2nd jag.

I've not long just had my first so need to wait the 8 weeks.

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jonnothejambo
2 hours ago, neilnunb said:

Got my reallocated seat ticket through this morning. Upper Q...getting closer to 'home' 😁

 

My move is to Upper P. Normally Lower Q. I can't wait to get back to my seat. 

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1 hour ago, Absolute Scenes said:

The difference in experience from being at the game to watching it on a small screen is vast. I shouldn’t have to pay the same price to attend the games to watching it online. Not pleased but I supposed I still have a way of watching. It just grinds my gears I can’t be at the game because of personal choice 

It grinds your gears you can't go because of a choice you have made?

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Biffa Bacon
1 hour ago, Section N Rules said:

I've not long just had my first so need to wait the 8 weeks.

The guidance was 3 weeks when the vaccines were introduced. 8 weeks is an arbitrary timescale to best disturbe the stick.

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28 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

It grinds your gears you can't go because of a choice you have made?

It grinds my gears that my personal choice to not have an experimental vaccine means I’m denied access to watch my team that I have paid in full for. I haven’t had the flu vaccine (still a killer, a big one at that) but I’m allowed access without this

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7 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

It grinds my gears that my personal choice to not have an experimental vaccine means I’m denied access to watch my team that I have paid in full for. I haven’t had the flu vaccine (still a killer, a big one at that) but I’m allowed access without this

I've never had a flu vaccine but this is on a different scale.

Personally I'm not bothered if folk choose not to have it, other than they're risking passing Covid on to the vulnerable. 

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28 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

It grinds my gears that my personal choice to not have an experimental vaccine means I’m denied access to watch my team that I have paid in full for. I haven’t had the flu vaccine (still a killer, a big one at that) but I’m allowed access without this

Your choice. You pay the consequences.

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30 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

It grinds my gears that my personal choice to not have an experimental vaccine means I’m denied access to watch my team that I have paid in full for. I haven’t had the flu vaccine (still a killer, a big one at that) but I’m allowed access without this


It is harsh but I suppose the line has to be drawn somewhere. 

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10 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

My move is to Upper P. Normally Lower Q. I can't wait to get back to my seat. 

 

 

I'm Lower Q too jonno 😁

 

Was Upper P today. 👍

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jonnothejambo
19 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

 

I'm Lower Q too jonno 😁

 

Was Upper P today. 👍

 

Upper S today. Decent view.

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Upper T here when we'd usually be in lower R today and v Motherwell.

Seats are a bit further along from the centre but not bad for overall today.

 

Sill miss our original seats however.

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32 minutes ago, ramrod said:

This will be close to a sell.out imo 

Depends how many have disqualified their self. 

They can always watch it on the live stream.

One thing for sure they won't be getting any money back because they can still watch the game. 

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3 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Depends how many have disqualified their self. 

They can always watch it on the live stream.

One thing for sure they won't be getting any money back because they can still watch the game. 

Yeah I'm.talking about tickets sold rather than actual bums on seats. 

Any gripes season ticket holders have with regards to getting into the Stadium should be directed at the Scottish govt and not the club .

For what its worth I'm double jagged and wouldn't miss the game for all the tea in China 😁

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10 hours ago, Absolute Scenes said:

It grinds my gears that my personal choice to not have an experimental vaccine means I’m denied access to watch my team that I have paid in full for. I haven’t had the flu vaccine (still a killer, a big one at that) but I’m allowed access without this

Experimental 😂

It's saved thousands of lives in the UK alone and without it we would still be in lockdown and would not have football to attend at all. 

 

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