Jeffros Furios Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Are you, a politician? No just a slavering erse 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 A fair guess would be……..this will cost the west billions…..the Taliban will sell the airport back to the Americans or charge a huge landing fee per aircraft, they do realise that aid will be needed (free aid) to support Afghanistan soon via the airport. Any starvation/humanitarian issues will be blamed on the west bailing out…..the west need to win back some sort of credibility and will continue to support Afghanistan…….. Billions…..absolute billions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 To the victor belong the spoils. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On one hand, the Taliban are banning girls from attending high school. On the other hand, the USA admits that the drone strike on a car at the airport killed nobody but civilians. 3 adults and 7 children. Nobody can do anything right in that shitehole. Edited September 17, 2021 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 15/09/2021 at 20:33, Savage Vince said: To the victor belong the spoils. 😁 Thought that was the Afghan equivalent of the abandoned supercars at Dubai Airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cade said: On one hand, the Taliban are banning girls from attending high school. On the other hand, the USA admits that the drone strike on a car at the airport killed nobody but civilians. 3 adults and 7 children. Nobody can do anything right in that shitehole. Except the arms industry. They’ve done alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Except the arms industry. They’ve done alright. True. Plenty amputees in that region I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Not like the yanks to airstrike the wrong people It's never ending with them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, gjcc said: True. Plenty amputees in that region I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Mehdi Hasan is a proper journalist. He's made some very powerful people squirm over the years. It's actually surprising he's not been murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Except the arms industry. They’ve done alright. Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said: Not like the yanks to airstrike the wrong people It's never ending with them . The more you see of it, the worse it gets. The car owner worked for a American aid agency. How has their "intelligence" got it so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Killing civilians has been a common event. The other thing that happened in Afghanistan and helped the Taliban is that Afghan warlords who the US paid to take control in some areas called in US air strikes on their opponents with the easy justification of calling them 'terrorists'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Our Governments really are a shower of *****. The Taliban or any other group don't really need a recruiting plan. We do it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 the taliban get their navy ready for action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Angel eyes said: the taliban get their navy ready for action. I recon they could take our navy. They already beat our land forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Herbert said: I recon they could take our navy. They already beat our land forces. But but Britannia rules the waves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: But but Britannia rules the waves. There's no waves in that photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Herbert said: There's no waves in that photo. There isn't even a sea, Afghanistan is a landlocked country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Herbert said: There's no waves in that photo. If you look closer see you'll see someone waving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: There isn't even a sea, Afghanistan is a landlocked country. Our navy is at a even bigger disadvantage then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 18/09/2021 at 13:08, Tommy Brown said: The more you see of it, the worse it gets. The car owner worked for a American aid agency. How has their "intelligence" got it so wrong. Not the intelligence wrong, but the calibre of the American service personnel, I will repeat ad nauseum, they are imho poorly trained and poorly disciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Not the intelligence wrong, but the calibre of the American service personnel, I will repeat ad nauseum, they are imho poorly trained and poorly disciplined. You saying they have hit the wrong target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Herbert said: Our navy is at a even bigger disadvantage then. Yip we've got to drag our boats overland first to reach the Taliban Navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said: You saying they have hit the wrong target? That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. They do have a habit of doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: Not the intelligence wrong, but the calibre of the American service personnel, I will repeat ad nauseum, they are imho poorly trained and poorly disciplined. Over the years, they haven’t been particularly noted for their subtlety bringing them success. It has tended to be strength of numbers and better equipment that has given them the edge. They have had spectacular failures even with those advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Feck sake . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58629592.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 21 hours ago, Herbert said: I recon they could take our navy. They already beat our land forces. In a fight…..No they didn’t ……. They won the political battle, they beat our politicians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: In a fight…..No they didn’t ……. They won the political battle, they beat our politicians It sure doesn't look like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: In a fight…..No they didn’t ……. They won the political battle, they beat our politicians We never exactly beat them in a fight though. Truth is our highly trained military with all its technology and funding struggled to deal with a bunch of farmers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Herbert said: We never exactly beat them in a fight though. Truth is our highly trained military with all its technology and funding struggled to deal with a bunch of farmers. Only because they are fighting with both hands tied behinds back. If they were allowed to fight full on, it would be different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Herbert said: We never exactly beat them in a fight though. Truth is our highly trained military with all its technology and funding struggled to deal with a bunch of farmers. 14 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Only because they are fighting with both hands tied behinds back. If they were allowed to fight full on, it would be different story. Are we talking about political agenda or full on ground fight when the bullets are flying? In truth there were many instances of not being able to return fire after being shot at cos the guy shooting is wearing civilian clothes and has thrown away his AK47, that’s typically called “rules of engagement” however, every instance of a full on “square go” we booted the sh*t out of them…..seems we took a pasting cos the media only ever reported our casualties, you could multiply their casualties x10 at least so, when the taliban squared up (which was often) they were smashed. They were tough adversaries and not afraid to die for their cause that’s why our casualties were high. Yes we withdrew out of the fight but we did not loose the battle, we (government) lost the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Taliban wanted it more and had enough support in the country and crucially by Pakistan to establish and rebuild. British army could have killed all the people they wanted and still would have been defeated eventually. Public wouldn't have stood the casualty figures to fight someone else's war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Only because they are fighting with both hands tied behinds back. If they were allowed to fight full on, it would be different story. As I've just said that wouldn't stop British soldiers being killed. How many British deaths would have been acceptable to fight so Afghan women could go to secondary school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: As I've just said that wouldn't stop British soldiers being killed. How many British deaths would have been acceptable to fight so Afghan women could go to secondary school. When you put it like that, it does seem a strange cause to be fighting for, especially when the Afghan army couldn't give a shot if their women are educated or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 11 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said: In a fight…..No they didn’t ……. They won the political battle, they beat our politicians Don't feed the trolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Not sure the Taliban are doing enough to get the international aid needed back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 20/09/2021 at 17:09, John Findlay said: Not the intelligence wrong, but the calibre of the American service personnel, I will repeat ad nauseum, they are imho poorly trained and poorly disciplined. Take it the Brits just made honest mistakes. £873 compensation paid for a damaged crane though lowest payment of £104.17 for a death AND property damaged. UK forces paid compensation for deaths of 203 adults and 86 children between 2006 and 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Take it the Brits just made honest mistakes. £873 compensation paid for a damaged crane though lowest payment of £104.17 for a death AND property damaged. UK forces paid compensation for deaths of 203 adults and 86 children between 2006 and 2014. No.we are getting as bad as the yanks, as we cut down on training, and allow a lower calibre of candidate into the armed forces( especially the Army), not a popular view, but a honest view as far as I am concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: No.we are getting as bad as the yanks, as we cut down on training, and allow a lower calibre of candidate into the armed forces( especially the Army), not a popular view, but a honest view as far as I am concerned. At the time reading the reports from Helmand, you wonder about how well the forces were properly supported. How good was their intelligence on missions where perhaps many civilian deaths were simply unfortunate mistakes or worse. And how much they were political pawns just supporting US public opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: At the time reading the reports from Helmand, you wonder about how well the forces were properly supported. How good was their intelligence on missions where perhaps many civilian deaths were simply unfortunate mistakes or worse. And how much they were political pawns just supporting US public opinion. We have always been political pawns. UK forces would have been nowhere near Afghanistan if Uncle Sam hadn't been paying a large proportion of the bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So here it is as predicted. Thousands of people seeking entry to Britain face going back to Afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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