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9 hours ago, luckydug said:

Have any of the fans travelling to London to watch the games in a pub, considered that the locals might be hostile ? 

If I had a ticket for the stadium I would consider going but not to sit in a pub. 

Why are people wanting to drink in pubs in enemy territory ? 🤔 

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6 hours ago, luckydug said:

Why does a group of sportsmen kneeling for a few seconds upset some people ? 

In what way does the above act affect your life ? 

Take a knee or don't take a knee I don't care as long as England lose. 

I say that in a non racist or nationalistic way as we have to share a media network with England and if they win we'll never hear the end of it. Although it might stop the media royal love in for a while. 

 

 

Wouldn't say it upsets me I just disagree with their reasoning and I oppose everything BLM stand for. 

 

Not sure why these millionnaire spoilt players can express their opinions but the paying average Joe in the stand can't.

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1 minute ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Wouldn't say it upsets me I just disagree with their reasoning and I oppose everything BLM stand for. 

 

Not sure why these millionnaire spoilt players can express their opinions but the paying average Joe in the stand can't.

Why not?

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6 hours ago, Des Lynam said:


You might want to do some research into Lewis’s upbringing….

 

 

No, I think you do. There are numerous videos about it on you tube. Look closely at what I said, "favourable chances" and look into how he was favoured by Mclaren due to his skin colour.

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Just now, Kiwidoug said:

Why not?

 

 

Why not what KD? 

 

Ideally I would rather the fans or the players never expressed political opinions at the game if truth be told but this taking a knee has been forced down our throats for over a year now. Enough already.

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8 hours ago, smiler said:

Oooooo Dougy

S&N, not S&M.  What have I done? The missus has read it and she was gone like a rocket.  I'm not even sure exactly what S&M is but I know it's certainly not cricket.

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7 hours ago, Morgan said:

Good for you, i8.  👍

 

I want Scotland to beat England in a game of football.  

 

That's it for me.

 

I have friends (and family) who are English and, let me tell you, they are bloody decent people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love England Morgan and I am a proud Brit.

 

Next Friday however is war and is a Scotland England thing, not British.

 

Come onnnnnn!

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1 minute ago, Kiwidoug said:

S&N, not S&M.  What have I done? The missus has read it and she was gone like a rocket.  I'm not even sure exactly what S&M is but I know it's certainly not cricket.

 

 

Is that not the household goods store at Meadowbank?

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6 hours ago, been here before said:

 

 

As opposed to the racing driver Lewis Hamilton who grew up in a broken home on a housing estate in Stevenage, living with his father after his parents split up when he was a toddler. The Lewis Hamilton whose dad had to take 3 different jobs to fund his karting career. The Lewis Hamilton who was racially abused as a child of 10 by others involved in go karting.

 

What Lewis Hamilton are you slavering about who had an "entire upbringing of privilege and favourable chances"?

 

More attention seeking slavering weapons grade gimpery from the perpetualy offended Ikkle Pwincess Hissy Fit.

If he paid tax in the UK he might be able to do something about other kids who aren't forced into a dead end career as a racing driver. Perhaps he would acknowledge that poverty as much as race, contributed to his terrible upbringing. Who would make the connection between poverty, race and social class? I'll present Marcus Rashford-no taking the knee from his mansion in a tax haven, no standing on his winners podium with a clenched fist. He just makes sure that kids, whatever their race, religion etc. etc., get a ****ing decent meal everyday. 

 

Shove your sanctimonious, fake rags to riches story up your middle class arse, and acknowledge whats staring you in the face. Its poverty stupid.

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Many on this forum probably grew up with financial struggles. It is certainly something I support but why is it always multi millionnaires who let us know about it. I wish these sanctimonious, virtue signalling ***** would just **** off.

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18 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

If he paid tax in the UK he might be able to do something about other kids who aren't forced into a dead end career as a racing driver. Perhaps he would acknowledge that poverty as much as race, contributed to his terrible upbringing. Who would make the connection between poverty, race and social class? I'll present Marcus Rashford-no taking the knee from his mansion in a tax haven, no standing on his winners podium with a clenched fist. He just makes sure that kids, whatever their race, religion etc. etc., get a ****ing decent meal everyday. 

 

Shove your sanctimonious, fake rags to riches story up your middle class arse, and acknowledge whats staring you in the face. Its poverty stupid.

 

Im not here to defend Hamilton, I think the mans a 24 carat, weapons class, grade A welt.

 

More pointing out the errors of the perma raging full time attention seeking constantly offended leech who made the claim.

 

Outstanding rant on your part though.

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2 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

Im not here to defend Hamilton, I think the mans a 24 carat, weapons class, grade A welt.

 

More pointing out the errors of the perma raging full time attention seeking constantly offended leech who made the claim.

 

Outstanding rant on your part though.

I was quite proud of my rant, but I know exactly what you mean.

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One last thing on Lewis Hamilton and hopefully this will register with the hard of thinking.

 

If you are a kid living in poverty and hardship then your hobbies would be pretty much anything that costs little to no money.

 

Your hobbies would not be go karting. Go karting would be a once in a childhood, family day out for you to remember all your years. Not spending hours at the 'track' every spare moment you have. It is expensive as ****. 

 

Only time I ever done it was with pals in Tenerife when I was 16. It was expensive as **** .

 

What is next? Sailing lessons for all?

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I'll be the only Scot in the village in my favourite Millwall pub for the game. I fully expect a Scotland win. 

 

I had booked tables at a couple of my locals, and the Edinboro Castle ( seems like a popular pub for Scots although I hate the place), but got invited to South London which is an adopted home for me. Personally I think that Friday the 18th will be a massive party in London so you might as well forget the Covid rules. My only concern would be the young England fans from Lewis Hamilton type slums who will be on the streets drinking beer in the Sun. I'm convinced Scotland will qualify for the knock out stages so there is a lot of fun to come. 

 

Have a great day out if you're coming to London. 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

No, I think you do. There are numerous videos about it on you tube. Look closely at what I said, "favourable chances" and look into how he was favoured by Mclaren due to his skin colour.


He was favoured because his karting record was so impressive. Despite it being a PR dream for McLaren they would have ditched him in a second if he’d faltered at that level. 
 

And if you’re angry at sanctimonious celebrities the list is endless…..

 

I like him because he’s nasty horrible winner. 

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Just now, Des Lynam said:


He was favoured because his karting record was so impressive. Despite it being a PR dream for McLaren they would have ditched him in a second if he’d faltered at that level. 
 

And if you’re angry at sanctimonious celebrities the list is endless…..

 

I like him because he’s nasty horrible winner. 

 

 

See I hate motor sport which probably adds to it. I do like winners though, especially nasty ones so I hear you there.

 

I just don't like winners who tell the planet they are all horrible racist, polluting ***** who in some way care a lot less than them about humanity.

 

He should marry Jennifer Lopez and they can wipe their arses with 24 carrat gold toilet paper made by orphans in Bangladesh and talk about how they are still from 'The Block'.

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28 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

One last thing on Lewis Hamilton and hopefully this will register with the hard of thinking.

 

If you are a kid living in poverty and hardship then your hobbies would be pretty much anything that costs little to no money.

 

Your hobbies would not be go karting. Go karting would be a once in a childhood, family day out for you to remember all your years. Not spending hours at the 'track' every spare moment you have. It is expensive as ****. 

 

Only time I ever done it was with pals in Tenerife when I was 16. It was expensive as **** .

 

What is next? Sailing lessons for all?

More shite

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6 minutes ago, ramrod said:

More shite

 

 

Great argument. I concede. You win.

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The poor kids in my school played kerbie, shit on a stick, football and caught bumble bees in old jam jars growing up. Can't say too many went go karting.

 

You could probably send your kid to Stewert Melvilles for the same as yearly Go Karting costs.

 

 

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5 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Not sure why these millionnaire spoilt players can express their opinions but the paying average Joe in the stand can't.

Hello there! I'm curious: in what way can't they? It seems like you can and do, quite a lot. If someone challenges your views, they haven't stopped you from offering them; if anything, they've asked you to talk further.

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4 minutes ago, strophic said:

Hello there! I'm curious: in what way can't they? It seems like you can and do, quite a lot. If someone challenges your views, they haven't stopped you from offering them; if anything, they've asked you to talk further.

He's posting on a forum to a few hundred. Top players are speaking to millions.  

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Just now, Forever Hearts said:

He's posting on a forum to a few hundred. Top players are speaking to millions.  

Oh ok thanks, perhaps the phrasing has thrown me! So it's not about whether or not the average Joe in the stand can express his opinions, but whether there is an equally receptive audience of millions to listen to it?

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9 minutes ago, strophic said:

Hello there! I'm curious: in what way can't they? It seems like you can and do, quite a lot. If someone challenges your views, they haven't stopped you from offering them; if anything, they've asked you to talk further.

 

 

I am talking about the taking of the knee. Because if they boo they are being demonised.  

 

We must sit there and see the world exactly through the eyes of these mega rich footballers.

 

Me, I see it differently.  I simply do not see the inequlaity that they see.  I also take offence to the whole BLM thing - I find it highly racist against white people, violent and greedy.

 

What a player does in their own private lives is of no concern to me, I just don't want to see it.  I am certain that the vast majority of people feel the same.

 

When there were no fans they got away with this charade but now fans are back, the real people, those who pay their wages and they are speaking.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I am talking about the taking of the knee. Because if they boo they are being demonised.  

 

We must sit there and see the world exactly through the eyes of these mega rich footballers.

 

Me, I see it differently.  I simply do not see the inequlaity that they see.  I also take offence to the whole BLM thing - I find it highly racist against white people, violent and greedy.

 

What a player does in their own private lives is of no concern to me, I just don't want to see it.  I am certain that the vast majority of people feel the same.

 

When there were no fans they got away with this charade but now fans are back, the real people, those who pay their wages and they are speaking.

 

 

 

Really? Who's forcing you?

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Just now, fancy a brew said:

 

Really? Who's forcing you?

 

 

Emotional blackmail.

 

Also, anyone speaking out is thrown the 'ist' card.

 

It is tiresome, really tiresome.

 

 

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Anyway, since I haven't helped with going off topic: I live in Hackney and will be watching at home, but I hope the folk going down enjoy themselves and keep themselves safe!

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Heading to Hyde Park during the day the friday then pub booked in Shoreditch for the game. Big crowd of us going and looking forward to spending time with some mates that haven’t seen in over 16 months.
 

It’s all within the rules travelling down, Sadiq Khan himself has said he wants Scots to go down and enjoy the city but make sure you have plans. 
 

Getting on a train/flight to London, staying in a hotel, walking about the city, pub bookings for watching the game - all within the current covid rules by the way.
 

Some folk seem hell bent on ensuring any marginal return to something that resembles ‘normal’ life is prevented. People deserve an opportunity to have a weekend enjoying themselves, and whether you like it or not, the current UK and Scottish government rules allow it.

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10 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Emotional blackmail.

 

Also, anyone speaking out is thrown the 'ist' card

 

If you go through life searching for things to be offended by, I could see that might be a problem for you.

 

11 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

It is tiresome, really tiresome.

 

Something we can all agree on. 😉

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4 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

I'll be the only Scot in the village in my favourite Millwall pub for the game. I fully expect a Scotland win. 

 

I had booked tables at a couple of my locals, and the Edinboro Castle ( seems like a popular pub for Scots although I hate the place), but got invited to South London which is an adopted home for me. Personally I think that Friday the 18th will be a massive party in London so you might as well forget the Covid rules. My only concern would be the young England fans from Lewis Hamilton type slums who will be on the streets drinking beer in the Sun. I'm convinced Scotland will qualify for the knock out stages so there is a lot of fun to come. 

 

Have a great day out if you're coming to London. 

 

 


Hope I’m wrong but there will be a few punch ups I reckon. There will be boys out for a dust up and will go looking for it. Especially in the parks. 
Enjoy your boozers, mate. Hope you have a good one. 

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Slowly but surely BLM  is being exposed for what it really is. Hopefully we wont have to put up with this pantomime much longer.

 

Notice no fan ever boos 'give racism the red card' this is because this is a simple non profit message that speaks to all.

 

Then they suddenly become racist when players take the knee. Give me a break.

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13 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

Slowly but surely BLM  is being exposed for what it really is. Hopefully we wont have to put up with this pantomime much longer.

 

Notice no fan ever boos 'give racism the red card' this is because this is a simple non profit message that speaks to all.

 

Then they suddenly become racist when players take the knee. Give me a break.

Excellent point and post. 👏

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13 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

Slowly but surely BLM  is being exposed for what it really is. Hopefully we wont have to put up with this pantomime much longer.

 

Notice no fan ever boos 'give racism the red card' this is because this is a simple non profit message that speaks to all.

 

Then they suddenly become racist when players take the knee. Give me a break.


 

I’ve read more about gareth southgates thoughts on taking the knee, crowd booing etc than I have about his team selection, tactics :lol:

 

It’s some world we live in now.

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29 minutes ago, Gorgie_Rules said:

Heading to Hyde Park during the day the friday then pub booked in Shoreditch for the game. Big crowd of us going and looking forward to spending time with some mates that haven’t seen in over 16 months.
 

It’s all within the rules travelling down, Sadiq Khan himself has said he wants Scots to go down and enjoy the city but make sure you have plans. 
 

Getting on a train/flight to London, staying in a hotel, walking about the city, pub bookings for watching the game - all within the current covid rules by the way.
 

Some folk seem hell bent on ensuring any marginal return to something that resembles ‘normal’ life is prevented. People deserve an opportunity to have a weekend enjoying themselves, and whether you like it or not, the current UK and Scottish government rules allow it.

That sounds like a good sensible plan.Have a great time. 

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