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14 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

By the way I, and others are not policing. Making points with facts that you for some reason disagree with is not policing. The only people that can police here are the mods. Let me guess, it’s not the ‘policing’ but the disagreeing with your point of view you have a problem with, right? So I’m sure when you disagree with people posting on a forum you always, without exception, just scroll on and never reply. Right?

😂😂 Jesus Christ man take some time to yourself. Some people are going for a good time with their mates. I also don’t   see any facts being posted either. 
 

if the government were that worried about it they would ban travel to other areas of the country like they did during lockdown 1, 2 and 3. 
 

Khan has also said don’t come unless you have a “safe place” to watch it. Is a pub not safe? 

 

If anything, your issue seems to be with the government. Folk going aren’t breaking any laws. 

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1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Missing the point entirely I see. And where was the rioting exactly? From what I saw most wore masks. But the point is they knew the risks and thought the cause was important enough to march, because they see people getting actually killed simply for having a different colour of skin and the march highlighted to many what was an undercurrent of institutional racism - so the march raised awareness and highlighted issues that most of the population didn’t realise was going on or to that extent.

 

Going to London to watch TV and drink isn’t a cause. It’s a want. It’s realising what’s happening and just doing it anyway as it’s what you want. People didn’t WANT to march, it wasn’t a fun day out for them. They saw it as a necessity, in some cases literally life and death. I don’t care if you agree or not with the legitimacy of the protests, but to equate the two is either idiotic or purposely antagonistic.

I don't give a shit what their cause was. They shouldn't have been out on the streets in their thousands during a global pandemic when it was literally at its peak, deaths were through the roof, the NHS was on its knees and NOBODY had been vaccinated. 

 

As for where was the rioting? Open your eyes and do some research AWAY from the main street media. 

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19 minutes ago, speaker said:

😂😂 Jesus Christ man take some time to yourself. Some people are going for a good time with their mates. I also don’t   see any facts being posted either. 
 

if the government were that worried about it they would ban travel to other areas of the country like they did during lockdown 1, 2 and 3. 
 

Khan has also said don’t come unless you have a “safe place” to watch it. Is a pub not safe? 

 

If anything, your issue seems to be with the government. Folk going aren’t breaking any laws. 


The government advice is not to travel unless you have a ticket. Or did you just choose to ignore that bit? The government also said that although that travel is allowed they still don’t recommend travel unless essential and to avoid well populated areas. A pub in London will undoubtedly be a well populated area. Listen, go and knock yourself out, but when cases spike up again and the relaxed restrictions reverse then don’t act like it’s entirely the fault of the government.

 

12 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

I don't give a shit what their cause was. They shouldn't have been out on the streets in their thousands during a global pandemic when it was literally at its peak and NOBODY had been vaccinated. 

 

As for where was the rioting? Open your eyes and do some research AWAY from the main street media. 

 

Main street media? By that I assume you’re meaning mainstream media? Or have you just saw MSM and assumed that’s what it is? Anyway, from that comment it’s evident there’s no point continuing discussion. I’ll let you go and watch the new GB News when it comes on as they report ‘fake news’ and spend hours on national television talking about how they have been silenced and cancelled and complain about ‘lefties’ and how they’ve ruined Brexit before you sink into you ‘naw means naw’ bedsheets. Have a good one.

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1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said:


The government advice is not to travel unless you have a ticket. Or did you just choose to ignore that bit? The government also said that although that travel is allowed they still don’t recommend travel unless essential and to avoid well populated areas. A pub in London will undoubtedly be a well populated area. Listen, go and knock yourself out, but when cases spike up again and the relaxed restrictions reverse then don’t act like it’s entirely the fault of the government.

 

 

Main street media? By that I assume you’re meaning mainstream media? Or have you just saw MSM and assumed that’s what it is? Anyway, from that comment it’s evident there’s no point continuing discussion. I’ll let you go and watch the new GB News when it comes on as they report ‘fake news’ and spend hours on national television talking about how they have been silenced and cancelled and complain about ‘lefties’ and how they’ve ruined Brexit before you sink into you ‘naw means naw’ bedsheets. Have a good one.

It's amazing that you can justify thousands being on the streets during a pandemic because it suits your agenda. 

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8 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

It's amazing that you can justify thousands being on the streets during a pandemic because it suits your agenda. 


When did I justify it or even say I agreed with it? Find my post and quote where I’ve said that. (Hint: you can’t) I said that you can’t equate a mass protest and march sparked by a global movement and you wanting to go to London to get pished and watch the football, likely getting into fights with other punters. I don’t even understand the reasoning behind anyone wanting to travel to any other city to watch a football game in a pub. It’s weird behaviour to me anyway, but I’m not justifying anything, I’m not doing anything. I have no agenda here. (Wasn’t invited to the meeting as far as I’m aware) There are folk on the thread trying to justify things, but not me.

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2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


When did I justify it or even say I agreed with it? Find my post and quote where I’ve said that. (Hint: you can’t) I said that you can’t equate a mass protest and march sparked by a global movement and you wanting to go to London to get pished and watch the football, likely getting into fights with other punters. I don’t even understand the reasoning behind anyone wanting to travel to any other city to watch a football game in a pub. It’s weird behaviour to me anyway, but I’m not justifying anything, I’m not doing anything. I have no agenda here. (Wasn’t invited to the meeting as far as I’m aware) There are folk on the thread trying to justify things, but not me.

You justified it alright, or at least tried to and failed miserably. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said:

You justified it alright, or at least tried to and failed miserably. 

 

 


My word. You live in your own little world and just see and hear what you want, don’t you? A certain Mark Twain quote comes to mind so I think I’ll just leave it there.

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2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


When did I justify it or even say I agreed with it? Find my post and quote where I’ve said that. (Hint: you can’t) I said that you can equate a mass protest and march sparked by a global movement and you wanting to go to London to get pished and watch the football, likely getting into fights with other punters. I don’t even understand the reasoning behind anyone wanting to travel to any other city to watch a football game in a pub. It’s weird behaviour to me anyway, but I’m not justifying anything, I’m not doing anything. I have no agenda here. (Wasn’t invited to the meeting as far as I’m aware) There are folk on the thread trying to justify things, but not me.

The irony is, had there been no pandemic, there would have been no global movement as you call it.

I’m pretty sure of that going on previous instances in the States over the years.

Suppose we are veering wildly off track here so I’ll leave it at all mass gatherings have their risks. Demos, football, whatever.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


My word. You live in your own little world and just see and hear what you want, don’t you? A certain Mark Twain quote comes to mind so I think I’ll just leave it there.

I live in the real world. You saw no problem with BLM marching when the pandemic was its height and we were in a national lockdown, but wet your knickers at a few football fans travelling to England to watch football when we're over the worst of the pandemic, 50 million will have been vaccinated and we're not in a lockdown. 

 

Aye, we'll leave it there.

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6 of us going down Thursday return Saturday. cost less than. Pubs booked for when games are being played we want to watch.

 

Will do the touristy stuff when not in the pub. Canny wait. 

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Just now, Bluesy1874 said:

6 of us going down Thursday return Saturday. cost was reasonable as booked it as soon as the last pen was saved. Pubs booked for when games are being played we want to watch.

 

Will do the touristy stuff when not in the pub. Canny wait. 

 

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1 hour ago, Braminho said:

Wasn’t going to go but iv just booked my flights with a load of other boys,  got an apartment in Hackney 

Hope you have a stab proof vest.

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2 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

Carefully.....not stupidly!

 

More dangerous things out there than the blown out of proportion cold. 

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English dad, Scottish mum.

So a a foot in both camps

 

After the way the SFA SPFL treated Hearts I want England to be succesful and Scotland to have its usual disaster.

 

#FingerCrossed 

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Just now, Australis said:

English dad, Scottish mum.

So a a foot in both camps

 

After the way the SFA SPFL treated Hearts I want England to be succesful and Scotland to have its usual disaster.

 

#FingerCrossed 

Aye, because some fat blokes in blazers own the Scotland team.🙄

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6 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

It is obviously all that matters to you! Inferred all along!

Explain? Why shouldn't those who have been vaccinated travel? 

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1 minute ago, Jambo61 said:

Bore someone else or find a partner!

So you were talking mince. Away and hide back under the bed and let the rest of us get on with living our lives.  

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The blm weirdos are still having  protests,  so if they knobs  are allowed so should law abiding Scotsmen .

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1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said:

I don't give a shit what their cause was. They shouldn't have been out on the streets in their thousands during a global pandemic when it was literally at its peak, deaths were through the roof, the NHS was on its knees and NOBODY had been vaccinated. 

 

As for where was the rioting? Open your eyes and do some research AWAY from the main street media. 

 

the initial protests were peaceful though as someone who was locked down at home they made for uncomfortable viewing and were extremely polarizing (from a covid perspective). as things progressed to the statue toppling stage there was significant violence and territorial support was repeatedly deployed. 

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7 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

So you were talking mince. Away and hide back under the bed and let the rest of us get on with living our lives.  

Hahahahaha..........call that a life!

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14 minutes ago, Australis said:

English dad, Scottish mum.

So a a foot in both camps

 

After the way the SFA SPFL treated Hearts I want England to be succesful and Scotland to have its usual disaster.

 

#FingerCrossed 

 

What :lol:

 

I get the division based on parents but your reasoning based on the SFA and SPFL is mental 🤦‍♂️

 

It's about where you are from man, and supporting a side who qualify for ****all because in the main are shite, the underdog, and everyones wrote us off before we start. Get behind the side and enjoy it for what it is.

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2 hours ago, sassenach said:

Officially they are.  Only slightly, but the fall in the rate has stopped and there is now a small rise.

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


There are probably more people dying every day from most other illnesses and road deaths, suicides etc than Covid-19.

 

We aren’t going to get zero Covid - people

need to start dealing with and accepting that.

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Did it a few years ago, was a good day at Trafalgar for few hours but shops quickly ran out of booze and when game was on it was terrible, no bars letting in fans ended up watching in a hotel bar with tiny screen and no sound. 

In these covid times there's not 1 percent of me wishing I was heading down.

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13 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Yes, because marching for a cause due a strong held belief based on quite easily observational institutional racism is exactly the same as a bunch of people stopping going to pubs in Scotland to going to a pub in London to watch a game they could watch at home.

Did anyone inform Covid that it was for a good cause?

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11 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:


There are probably more people dying every day from most other illnesses and road deaths, suicides etc than Covid-19.

 

We aren’t going to get zero Covid - people

need to start dealing with and accepting that.

I agree.

 

But at the moment, there is a small increase in deaths.  We need deaths to be falling before we ease restrictions further, otherwise we risk having restrictions reimposed later.

 

We need to get this right, and wait for the vaccination programme to have a greater effect before proceeding.

 

We will get there, just a bit more patience is required.  Again, sorry to hijack thread with Shed material.

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2 hours ago, Candy said:

Did anyone inform Covid that it was for a good cause?


Which one are you? The idiot or the intentionally antagonistic? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve just missed the point entirely rather than see everything in context and be able to comprehend the point being made. Good grief.

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13 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:


The government advice is not to travel unless you have a ticket. Or did you just choose to ignore that bit? The government also said that although that travel is allowed they still don’t recommend travel unless essential and to avoid well populated areas. A pub in London will undoubtedly be a well populated area. Listen, go and knock yourself out, but when cases spike up again and the relaxed restrictions reverse then don’t act like it’s entirely the fault of the government.

Incorrect. The government advice is not travel unless you have a ticket OR a safe place to watch it. It’s like you are choosing to ignore the second part of their advice. I am going and have a space place to watch it so I don’t see what your getting your knickers in a twist about.

 

As other have said before, covid is never going away. Cases will continue to go up and down. 

 

if you don’t agree with the guidelines   then again I think your issue is with the government/khan. You should pen a very angry letter to your MP

 

2-1 Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 

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2 minutes ago, speaker said:

Incorrect. The government advice is not travel unless you have a ticket OR a safe place to watch it. It’s like you are choosing to ignore the second part of their advice. I am going and have a space place to watch it so I don’t see what your getting your knickers in a twist about.

 

As other have said before, covid is never going away. Cases will continue to go up and down. 

 

if you don’t agree with the guidelines   then again I think your issue is with the government/khan. You should pen a very angry letter to your MP

 

2-1 Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 

From the BBC website. 

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2 minutes ago, speaker said:

Incorrect. The government advice is not travel unless you have a ticket OR a safe place to watch it. It’s like you are choosing to ignore the second part of their advice. I am going and have a space place to watch it so I don’t see what your getting your knickers in a twist about.

 

As other have said before, covid is never going away. Cases will continue to go up and down. 

 

if you don’t agree with the guidelines   then again I think your issue is with the government/khan. You should pen a very angry letter to your MP

 

2-1 Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 


Why are you obsessed with knicker twisting? Why do people like you treat anyone who might have an opposing view as getting their knickers in a twist, a snowflake or some over reactionary “won’t someone think of the children” style character? As I’ve said in my post you’ve quoted, no one is stopping you, off you jog to London to watch a game in a pub. Strange behaviour to me to do such a thing, but each to their own.

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16 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Exactly. I'm going to London in July for a break. There will be thousands of tourists there.

No difference IMO.

The Covid police can GTF 

 

Not long back from London and it is relatively quiet pretty much everywhere.

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9 hours ago, benny said:

Never crossed my mind to go down to London but surely these fan zones up here are just as bad.

 

B

Was in Manchester for the Everton game and lack of covid enforcement and pubs open to 3am gave me the fear

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22 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Why are you obsessed with knicker twisting? Why do people like you treat anyone who might have an opposing view as getting their knickers in a twist, a snowflake or some over reactionary “won’t someone think of the children” style character? As I’ve said in my post you’ve quoted, no one is stopping you, off you jog to London to watch a game in a pub. Strange behaviour to me to do such a thing, but each to their own.

It's not because you have an opposing view, it's because you are factually wrong. 

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2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

It's not because you have an opposing view, it's because you are factually wrong. 

I am in the midway camp, understand that this has been a long time coming and that some are desperate to sample the atmosphere, for me I would rather watch with friends locally at this time, however accusing people of being pansies and continually abusing those with conflicting opinions just makes you  appear daft, some people have personal reasons for their opinions, maybe an idea to respect that 

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1 minute ago, lou said:

I am in the midway camp, understand that this has been a long time coming and that some are desperate to sample the atmosphere, for me I would rather watch with friends locally at this time, however accusing people of being pansies and continually abusing those with conflicting opinions just makes you  appear daft, some people have personal reasons for their opinions, maybe an idea to respect that 

I've got zero respect for anybody who wants to prolong this nonsense for one day more. There's people holidaying all over the UK (and beyond in some cases) so don't start having a go at football fans for wanting to have a bit of fun. 

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2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

I've got zero respect for anybody who wants to prolong this nonsense for one day more. There's people holidaying all over the UK (and beyond in some cases) so don't start having a go at football fans for wanting to have a bit of fun. 

Where did I do that? As someone who can only visits a family member from behind a wall of glass once a week, I want this to be over yesterday but I will put my trust in those with the appropriate knowledge as to when that will happen

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