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2 minutes ago, lou said:

Where did I do that? As someone who can only visits a family member from behind a wall of glass once a week, I want this to be over yesterday but I will put my trust in those with the appropriate knowledge as to when that will happen

Not you personally.  

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36 minutes ago, lou said:

Where did I do that? As someone who can only visits a family member from behind a wall of glass once a week, I want this to be over yesterday but I will put my trust in those with the appropriate knowledge as to when that will happen


Honestly mate, don’t bother. It’ll be a waste of time and he’ll get on the defensive like a scorned balding divorcee harping about how she’s turned they weans against him, no matter how reasonable your posts. I learned this the hard way.

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Can we please stop with the BLM and covid patter and get back on topic. For those that are going, lets hear what your plans are. Prawn sandwich brigade move along!

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2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Which one are you? The idiot or the intentionally antagonistic? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve just missed the point entirely rather than see everything in context and be able to comprehend the point being made. Good grief.

You can only be at the wind up here.  You are ok with crowds previously breaking covid rules,  but having a go at people for something thats not even happened yet.

 

Good grief indeed

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9 minutes ago, Candy said:

You can only be at the wind up here.  You are ok with crowds previously breaking covid rules,  but having a go at people for something thats not even happened yet.

 

Good grief indeed

He's tied himself in a million knots. Fair play to him though for keeping going.😃

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34 minutes ago, Negan said:

Can we please stop with the BLM and covid patter and get back on topic. For those that are going, lets hear what your plans are. Prawn sandwich brigade move along!

Thursday: Pub Booked

Friday:  Pub Booked

Saturday: Pub Booked

 

Starting at 13.30 on game day...how very Scottish 🙂

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11 minutes ago, Candy said:

Thursday: Pub Booked

Friday:  Pub Booked

Saturday: Pub Booked

 

Starting at 13.30 on game day...how very Scottish 🙂

I hope you and everybody else going down has a wonderful time.👍🍺 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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1 hour ago, Candy said:

You can only be at the wind up here.  You are ok with crowds previously breaking covid rules,  but having a go at people for something thats not even happened yet.

 

Good grief indeed


Like the other one you’ve just went and assumed. Go and point to anywhere in any of my posts where I said I was ok with the protests? (Hint like I hinted before: you can’t because I didn’t) My point was that to equate the protests that took place due to a global movement and cause with travelling hundreds of miles to a pub in another city to watch a game of football is idiotic. They are nowhere near the same thing. People resorting to whatabouttery when they’re being questioned is just a sign that their argument is weak. If we want to go down the whatabouttery route why not mention the recent Rangers celebrations in Glasgow city centre, for example? It would at least be loosely on topic rather than an avoidance/ignorance of the points being made.

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1 hour ago, Candy said:

Thursday: Pub Booked

Friday:  Pub Booked

Saturday: Pub Booked

 

Starting at 13.30 on game day...how very Scottish 🙂

Where did u get booked for pubs

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59 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Like the other one you’ve just went and assumed. Go and point to anywhere in any of my posts where I said I was ok with the protests? (Hint like I hinted before: you can’t because I didn’t) My point was that to equate the protests that took place due to a global movement and cause with travelling hundreds of miles to a pub in another city to watch a game of football is idiotic. They are nowhere near the same thing. People resorting to whatabouttery when they’re being questioned is just a sign that their argument is weak. If we want to go down the whatabouttery route why not mention the recent Rangers celebrations in Glasgow city centre, for example? It would at least be loosely on topic rather than an avoidance/ignorance of the points being made.

Are you being intentionally stupid? When BLM were marching/rioting nobody had been vaccinated, we were in a lockdown, the NHS was on its knees and the death rate was through the roof. 

 

This time almost 50 million will have been vaccinated, we're not in a lockdown, hospital admissions have dropped through the floor and we're being told we are good to travel in the UK as long as we adhere to the rules. 

 

What part of that are you struggling with? 

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26 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

Are you being intentionally stupid? When BLM were marching/rioting nobody had been vaccinated, we were in a lockdown, the NHS was on its knees and the death rate was through the roof. 

 

This time almost 50 million will have been vaccinated, we're not in a lockdown, hospital admissions have dropped through the floor and we're being told we are good to travel in the UK as long as we adhere to the rules. 

 

What part of that are you struggling with? 


I ain't stupid mate. You’re the one that brought BLM into this, which has nothing to do with what we’re currently talking about. No one is encouraging travel, they’ve said it’s not banned but the government still advise against travel and going to well populated places if it can’t be helped. They’ve also advised people don’t travel without a ticket - even if they say “unless you have a safe place to watch the game” that is still in contradiction to their overall guidance of not travelling or being in well populated places. What others have pointed out to you and others on this thread is that being vaccinated yourself might reduce the risk for you, but doesn’t reduce the risk for others that may get the virus directly from you or from someone who has got it through a cluster or mutated variant formed by unnecessary gathering. And travelling to London to go watch a game in a pub (and yes, sorry everyone that is pretty much as pathetic as it sounds) coming into contact with various people along the way and potentially  transporting back and forth the virus and transmitting it to people who have not got gotten the vaccine yet due to their age but have to be out and about because of their job (for example) is selfish behaviour. Which was the initial claim in this thread, that going down to watch a game in a pub, potentially transporting and transmitting while others aren’t as safe as you is a selfish thing to do. It may not be illegal, no one will stop you from doing it, and undoubtedly you’ll still do it guilt free as that’s your mindset. But that doesn’t stop that act of what you’re doing in the current climate as selfish. There’s your facts bud.

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11 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


I ain't stupid mate. You’re the one that brought BLM into this, which has nothing to do with what we’re currently talking about. No one is encouraging travel, they’ve said it’s not banned but the government still advise against travel and going to well populated places if it can’t be helped. They’ve also advised people don’t travel without a ticket - even if they say “unless you have a safe place to watch the game” that is still in contradiction to their overall guidance of not travelling or being in well populated places. What others have pointed out to you and others on this thread is that being vaccinated yourself might reduce the risk for you, but doesn’t reduce the risk for others that may get the virus directly from you or from someone who has got it through a cluster or mutated variant formed by unnecessary gathering. And travelling to London to go watch a game in a pub (and yes, sorry everyone that is pretty much as pathetic as it sounds) coming into contact with various people along the way and potentially  transporting back and forth the virus and transmitting it to people who have not got gotten the vaccine yet due to their age but have to be out and about because of their job (for example) is selfish behaviour. Which was the initial claim in this thread, that going down to watch a game in a pub, potentially transporting and transmitting while others aren’t as safe as you is a selfish thing to do. It may not be illegal, no one will stop you from doing it, and undoubtedly you’ll still do it guilt free as that’s your mindset. But that doesn’t stop that act of what you’re doing in the current climate as selfish. There’s your facts bud.

Who cares who brought BLM into it? You unbelievably tried to compare the two when there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. One group of people were breaking the law, the other won't be. 

 

THERE'S your facts, bud.

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Just now, Forever Hearts said:

Who cares who brought BLM into it? You unbelievably tried to compare the two when there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. One group of people were breaking the law, the other won't be. 

 

THERE'S your facts, bud.


You outright liar. The first time I brought it up was in response to YOU bringing it up. Keep up with your own conspiracy theories and outbursts and you don’t have to have a good memory. Go check the thread, it’s there for all to see. Jesus.

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23 hours ago, Forever Hearts said:

Nobody gave a toss 12 months ago when the BLM group were marching/rioting every other week and not one of them had been vaccinated. 

 

21 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Yes, because marching for a cause due a strong held belief based on quite easily observational institutional racism is exactly the same as a bunch of people stopping going to pubs in Scotland to going to a pub in London to watch a game they could watch at home.


There you go. Some strange “facts” you have. YOU brought it up and YOU compared the two by doing so.

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1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said:

 


There you go. Some strange “facts” you have. YOU brought it up and YOU compared the two by doing so.

 

There is something wrong with someone telling us we have to believe them when there is glairing contradictios in what they say.

 

When you attempted to gloss over the contradiction being pointed out to you by saying one is a just cause and the other is not therefore he is wrong, you lost all credibility. If you had said both are wrong or both are right then ok, but you did not.

 

     

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20 minutes ago, niblick1874 said:

 

There is something wrong with someone telling us we have to believe them when there is glairing contradictios in what they say.

 

When you attempted to gloss over the contradiction being pointed out to you by saying one is a just cause and the other is not therefore he is wrong, you lost all credibility. If you had said both are wrong or both are right then ok, but you did not.

 

     

Well said .

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We’ve got the edinboro castle pub in Camden booked for the game itself. Playing everything else by ear. Really canny wait. This has been the longest working week of my life so far!

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26 minutes ago, mellors1874 said:

Kings cross for me and my lad 

Should be interesting 

I’m not down for the Scotland game but I’m in London when the semis are on. 
Would like to catch one of them and wanted to go to Boxpark, Shoredich but they don’t appear to be releasing tickets until it’s known who’s in semi (sensible). Waiting for this would mean no Plan B. 
anyone any recommendations for 3 adults, 3 17 year olds?  Fanzone etc over 18.  

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8 minutes ago, speaker said:

We’ve got the edinboro castle pub in Camden booked for the game itself. Playing everything else by ear. Really canny wait. This has been the longest working week of my life so far!

 

 

cracking boozer, enjoy 👍

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1 hour ago, niblick1874 said:

 

There is something wrong with someone telling us we have to believe them when there is glairing contradictios in what they say.

 

When you attempted to gloss over the contradiction being pointed out to you by saying one is a just cause and the other is not therefore he is wrong, you lost all credibility. If you had said both are wrong or both are right then ok, but you did not.

 

     


Oh for crying out loud. You’re the 3rd one I’ll ask and who I guarantee cannot answer - where did I say the protests were justified or a just cause? 3rd hint: you also can’t, because (and a little louder for those in the back) I NEVER said any such thing! I said that the protesters were taking to the streets for A cause that THEY believed in due to a GLOBAL movement. I, not once, said whether or not they were right or wrong. I said that the whatabouttery by using BLM in this context was ridiculous, which it undoubtedly is. As you cannot equate the two scenarios whatsoever.
 

Incidentally, I’ve also never said people going to London is right or wrong, what I have said though is people travelling hundreds of miles to sit in a pub in London to watch a game on TV - when they could do that in a pub up here or at home - is a selfish act given that the country is not yet out of the woods with the pandemic as not everyone has been able to get their vaccine. Now, you could say that the “BLM group”, as it was put, were wrong to gather during a pandemic before a vaccine - as a basic without context I wholly agree and wasn’t one of them. BUT, would I call the protests a “selfish” act? Absolutely not. As protesting for a cause, whether it’s a justifiable one or not in anyone’s opinion, is doing so with an aim to have society bettered. Whether it be BLM, environment, gay pride etc these aren’t “selfish” as the individuals attending aren’t doing so so for THEIR OWN benefit, but that of society in general. Or at least that’s the aim of whichever group of people are protesting in these circumstances. But anyone going to London to watch a game of football on TV when they could easily do it in a pub up here or at home, is doing so because it’s something that individual wants to do so that they can enjoy themselves. The act of doing so only benefits that individual. Normal circumstances, do whatever floats your boat, but if it’s doing something for your own benefit - knowing that by doing it it can potentially impact on others - but doing it anyway as you want to enjoy yourself, then it’s a selfish act. And people have a right to point that out if that’s how they see it.

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7 minutes ago, Sid said:

I’m not down for the Scotland game but I’m in London when the semis are on. 
Would like to catch one of them and wanted to go to Boxpark, Shoredich but they don’t appear to be releasing tickets until it’s known who’s in semi (sensible). Waiting for this would mean no Plan B. 
anyone any recommendations for 3 adults, 3 17 year olds?  Fanzone etc over 18.  


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57433999

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3 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:

 


There you go. Some strange “facts” you have. YOU brought it up and YOU compared the two by doing so.

I never said I didn't bring it up? Settle down and read what I posted. I clearly said "who cares who brought BLM into it?" 

 

And you can backtrack all you like. You were quite clearly trying to justify BLM marching/rioting because of their "cause" and everybody reading the thread knows it. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

I never said I didn't bring it up? Settle down and read what I posted. I clearly said "who cares who brought BLM into it?" 

 

And you can backtrack all you like. You were quite clearly trying to justify BLM marching/rioting because of their "cause" and everybody reading the thread knows it. 

 

 


No backtracking. Not my fault you can’t read or infer the difference. One is a selfish act, one isn’t. It’s that simple. So bringing it up in this context was at best to be antagonistic. My point before you brought it into it was that travelling to London to watch a game in a pub during a pandemic is strange and selfish behaviour. You can “look, a squirrel” all you like but that’s the point that was made and no one has countered it properly yet. Just avoidance.

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32 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


No backtracking. Not my fault you can’t read or infer the difference. One is a selfish act, one isn’t. It’s that simple. So bringing it up in this context was at best to be antagonistic. My point before you brought it into it was that travelling to London to watch a game in a pub during a pandemic is strange and selfish behaviour. You can “look, a squirrel” all you like but that’s the point that was made and no one has countered it properly yet. Just avoidance.

But you didn't call the BLM rioting/marching "strange and selfish" when we were in a lockdown, the pandemic was at its peak and it was actually ILLEGAL. 

 

Funny that.🙄

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Have any of the fans travelling to London to watch the games in a pub, considered that the locals might be hostile ? 

If I had a ticket for the stadium I would consider going but not to sit in a pub. 

Why are people wanting to drink in pubs in enemy territory ? 🤔 

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3 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Have any of the fans travelling to London to watch the games in a pub, considered that the locals might be hostile ? 

If I had a ticket for the stadium I would consider going but not to sit in a pub. 

Why are people wanting to drink in pubs in enemy territory ? 🤔 

To get a trip away with their pals after being in lockdown for the best part of 16 months? 

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31 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

But you didn't call the BLM rioting/marching "strange and selfish" when we were in a lockdown, the pandemic was at its peak and it was actually ILLEGAL. 

 

Funny that.🙄


I’ve already explained why it wasn’t selfish. Like, literally a few posts up in this thread. You’re being selective - again. Protesting for a cause isn’t doing something for yourself so it can’t be deemed selfish. It can be deemed wrong, illegal or not right but it can’t be deemed selfish. It also wasn’t strange as there were protests in every major city across the world, particularly in America. So for something to happen in London as well is not strange.

 

But you’ve done it again, brought something completely unrelated to the topic so you can point score about it. Again, strange behaviour. Strange behaviour, to me at least, is queuing outside an Apple store for the latest iPhone. Strange to me is folk gathering in the meadows to play a fictional sport from the Harry Potter books. Can’t see the appeal or sense in either of those things - just like I can’t see the sense of travelling to London to watch a game in a pub that you can already watch in a local pub or at home or a friend’s house. But I would normally say each to their own, you wanna buy the new iPhone on day of release, it’s your money. You wanna hop about on a fake broomstick thinking you’re a wizard? Knock yourself out. You wanna travel hundreds of miles to sit in an overcrowded and overpriced pub in London to watch game on a TV in the corner when you could do that already locally or home? Up to you, it’s not harming anyone - normally - but the point is doing that CAN harm someone at this time. Depending on travel, are you going by plane or bus or by car? Are you mingling with crowds in and outside of the pub? Well if so by doing that you could be catching and spreading the virus without knowing it to those not able to be vaccinated yet. That is selfish. You can do it all you want, but you can’t deny it’s selfish. Bringing up a completely unrelated global movement from over a year ago that you don’t agree with does not prove or disprove anything, it just distracts the discussion away from where it should be. It also doesn’t change the fact that going to London to watch a game in a pub is selfish in the current state of the pandemic. May not be strange to everyone, but it is selfish.

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For the benefit of the OP, I was a bit of a regular in a S&N pub in London back in the early '70s.  Can't remember exactly where it was or what it was called but it was pretty good.

 

Hope that helps.

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2 hours ago, mellors1874 said:

Kings cross for me and my lad 

Should be interesting 

 

As a last resort the bar in the Pullman might be worth a bash

Nice big screen

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23 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


I’ve already explained why it wasn’t selfish. Like, literally a few posts up in this thread. You’re being selective - again. Protesting for a cause isn’t doing something for yourself so it can’t be deemed selfish. It can be deemed wrong, illegal or not right but it can’t be deemed selfish. It also wasn’t strange as there were protests in every major city across the world, particularly in America. So for something to happen in London as well is not strange.

 

But you’ve done it again, brought something completely unrelated to the topic so you can point score about it. Again, strange behaviour. Strange behaviour, to me at least, is queuing outside an Apple store for the latest iPhone. Strange to me is folk gathering in the meadows to play a fictional sport from the Harry Potter books. Can’t see the appeal or sense in either of those things - just like I can’t see the sense of travelling to London to watch a game in a pub that you can already watch in a local pub or at home or a friend’s house. But I would normally say each to their own, you wanna buy the new iPhone on day of release, it’s your money. You wanna hop about on a fake broomstick thinking you’re a wizard? Knock yourself out. You wanna travel hundreds of miles to sit in an overcrowded and overpriced pub in London to watch game on a TV in the corner when you could do that already locally or home? Up to you, it’s not harming anyone - normally - but the point is doing that CAN harm someone at this time. Depending on travel, are you going by plane or bus or by car? Are you mingling with crowds in and outside of the pub? Well if so by doing that you could be catching and spreading the virus without knowing it to those not able to be vaccinated yet. That is selfish. You can do it all you want, but you can’t deny it’s selfish. Bringing up a completely unrelated global movement from over a year ago that you don’t agree with does not prove or disprove anything, it just distracts the discussion away from where it should be. It also doesn’t change the fact that going to London to watch a game in a pub is selfish in the current state of the pandemic. May not be strange to everyone, but it is selfish.

Best that we leave it there. 

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17 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

For the benefit of the OP, I was a bit of a regular in a S&M pub in London back in the early '70s.  Can't remember exactly where it was or what it was called but it was pretty good.

 

Hope that helps.

Oooooo Dougy

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I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

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6 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

 

Edgy as ****.

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16 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

:yas:

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1 hour ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.


Don’t forget booing them using the British national anthem. 

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1 hour ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

:wow:  You’ve got a feather sticking out of your hat, haven’t you?

 

 

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Just now, Fozzyonthefence said:


Don’t forget booing them using the British national anthem. 

 

 

Not a big fan of booing anthems when being sung. I remember how pathetic it made the tartan army seem v Liechtenstein a few years back. 

 

Booing a bunch of self entitled over rated multi millionnaires telling us how awful white people are, well I have no issue with that.

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Just now, Morgan said:

:wow:  You’ve got a feather sticking out of your hat, haven’t you?

 

 

 

 

I will do on the 18th

 

:yas:

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1 hour ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

For ultimate shits and giggles, the Scotland fans in the stadium should 'take a knee' during GSTQ. Cameras would cut away quicker than a sound engineer hitting 'mute' when Celtic fans are asked to observe a certain minute's silence each November.

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All we need next is Lewis Hamilton who is in the top 100 richest people in the UK with an entire upbringing of privilege and favourable chances and a carbon footprint larger than a small country to tell us how much of a bunch of ***** we all are

 

:fonzie:

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14 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I will do on the 18th

 

:yas:

Good for you, i8.  👍

 

I want Scotland to beat England in a game of football.  

 

That's it for me.

 

I have friends (and family) who are English and, let me tell you, they are bloody decent people.

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

All we need next is Lewis Hamilton who is in the top 100 richest people in the UK with an entire upbringing of privilege and favourable chances and a carbon footprint larger than a small country to tell us how much of a bunch of ***** we all are

 

:fonzie:


You might want to do some research into Lewis’s upbringing….

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42 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

All we need next is Lewis Hamilton who is in the top 100 richest people in the UK with an entire upbringing of privilege and favourable chances and a carbon footprint larger than a small country to tell us how much of a bunch of ***** we all are

 

:fonzie:

 

 

As opposed to the racing driver Lewis Hamilton who grew up in a broken home on a housing estate in Stevenage, living with his father after his parents split up when he was a toddler. The Lewis Hamilton whose dad had to take 3 different jobs to fund his karting career. The Lewis Hamilton who was racially abused as a child of 10 by others involved in go karting.

 

What Lewis Hamilton are you slavering about who had an "entire upbringing of privilege and favourable chances"?

 

More attention seeking slavering weapons grade gimpery from the perpetualy offended Ikkle Pwincess Hissy Fit.

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Anybody had their train cancelled and managed to find any alternative methods to get down? Will be a fair few now scunnered on Tbursday and Friday thanks to strikes.

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2 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

I really hope we boo the England team, boo their fans singing and boo their ******* players taking the knee.

Why does a group of sportsmen kneeling for a few seconds upset some people ? 

In what way does the above act affect your life ? 

Take a knee or don't take a knee I don't care as long as England lose. 

I say that in a non racist or nationalistic way as we have to share a media network with England and if they win we'll never hear the end of it. Although it might stop the media royal love in for a while. 

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