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Is anyone going to London for the England game? If so, where are you all drinking if not actually at the game? Il be travelling from Plymouth as Im based there with work but keen to find out where other jambos are gonna be! 

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27 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said:

Not to sound like too much of a wet blanket but I’d follow the advice and not travel. 

 

:spoton:

 

However people will travel, mix and then go back home with the inevitable consequences. 

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I'd stay in Plymouth if I were you, unless you have a ticket for the game.

 

Advice is not to travel unnecessarily, so I wouldn't travel unnecessarily.

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Mental!

 

Imagine making a 400+ mile round trip to watch a football match on a screen during a pandemic, when all the public health advice urges you not to travel unless it's essential.

Yet I suspect there will be many hundreds, if not thousands, who will do exactly this and will be moaning like hell in a couple of months if their holiday plans have to be cancelled due to a spike in cases.

Sometimes I despair for the human race

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6 minutes ago, Musemic said:

Mental!

 

Imagine making a 400+ mile round trip to watch a football match on a screen during a pandemic, when all the public health advice urges you not to travel unless it's essential.

Yet I suspect there will be many hundreds, if not thousands, who will do exactly this and will be moaning like hell in a couple of months if their holiday plans have to be cancelled due to a spike in cases.

Sometimes I despair for the human race

 

Agree, I just don't get it.

 

Every pub in the UK with a tele will be showing the game, I don't get the need to travel to London just to watch it in a pub. Just ****ing stay local.

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27 minutes ago, Musemic said:

Mental!

 

Imagine making a 400+ mile round trip to watch a football match on a screen during a pandemic, when all the public health advice urges you not to travel unless it's essential.

Yet I suspect there will be many hundreds, if not thousands, who will do exactly this and will be moaning like hell in a couple of months if their holiday plans have to be cancelled due to a spike in cases.

Sometimes I despair for the human race

Im already in England. 

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My wife reckons the only reason Portugal was turned green was to facilitate the Champions League Final. 

 

Or in her words "It's well seeing there's a stupid game of football on."

 

Women think in mysterious ways.

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Anyone who travels to London to watch the match in a pub or wherever is utterly selfish.

 

Sadly the country is riddled with this type of person. 

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1 minute ago, jonnothejambo said:

Anyone who travels to London to watch the match in a pub or wherever is utterly selfish.

 

Sadly the country is riddled with this type of person. 

 

True on both counts.

 

I can understand why 2 million Celtic fans went for a holiday in the sun to Seville with little or no hope of a ticket, but London, during covid?

 

Daft.

 

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For the record I'm not going down and will just be watching at somebody's flat in Dunfermline with 3 or 4 mates. 

 

That said u can see why people are tempted. I was 9 during France 98 so obviously not old enough to go abroad or on the sesh for it 😂 This'll be the first tournament Scotland have qualified for in a lot of people's lifetimes and throw in the fact London is so close, it's a Derby...

 

Not saying it isn't selfish or that they should go but I get it tbh. Especially given there's finally something to look forward to after pushing 18 months of shite and restrictions. 

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Why are people saying it’s selfish if they have a safe place today and pubs booked? What’s the difference going on holiday in England which we are encouraged to do 

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48 million people vaccinated. All vulnerable and those at high risk with 2 doses. And the advice is not to travel. It does kind of beg the question.....what is the ****ing point in the vaccine?

 

Hope we go down in high numbers and you all have a blast, oh ..... and we beat them.

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26 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

If you've had two jabs then I don't see the problem. If you haven't, then stay at home.  

Because it's not just about protecting the individual. With two vaccinations you can still catch, carry and transmit the virus. That could be to someone more vulnerable, and there are people in hospital with Covid who have had two jags. The Delta variant is up to 40% more transmissible. The more people move about, the more it will move about with them and we will see local spikes. Like investments, protection levels can go up as well as down and I don't think we are on a clear run to 'freedom day' as some are calling the 21st of June. 

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1 minute ago, Daktari said:

Because it's not just about protecting the individual. With two vaccinations you can still catch, carry and transmit the virus. That could be to someone more vulnerable, and there are people in hospital with Covid who have had two jags. The Delta variant is up to 40% more transmissible. The more people move about, the more it will move about with them and we will see local spikes. Like investments, protection levels can go up as well as down and I don't think we are on a clear run to 'freedom day' as some are calling the 21st of June. 

So what's the point in getting two jabs if you can't go anywhere? 🤔

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3 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said:

Why are people saying it’s selfish if they have a safe place today and pubs booked? What’s the difference going on holiday in England which we are encouraged to do 

Imagine when a goal goes in and there has been loads of alcohol consumed.

 

Social distancing will soon disappear when that happens and folk are leaping all over each other.

 

Wee bit different from a holiday down south imo.

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7 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Imagine when a goal goes in and there has been loads of alcohol consumed.

 

Social distancing will soon disappear when that happens and folk are leaping all over each other.

 

Wee bit different from a holiday down south imo.

Have you kept to the rules 100% this whole time? 

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8 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Imagine when a goal goes in and there has been loads of alcohol consumed.

 

Social distancing will soon disappear when that happens and folk are leaping all over each other.

 

Wee bit different from a holiday down south imo.

Carnage will ensue.

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2 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

:spoton:

 

However people will travel, mix and then go back home with the inevitable consequences. 

 

Then moan about further Lockdowns or restrictions. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Daktari said:

Because it's not just about protecting the individual. With two vaccinations you can still catch, carry and transmit the virus. That could be to someone more vulnerable, and there are people in hospital with Covid who have had two jags. The Delta variant is up to 40% more transmissible. The more people move about, the more it will move about with them and we will see local spikes. Like investments, protection levels can go up as well as down and I don't think we are on a clear run to 'freedom day' as some are calling the 21st of June. 

 

Good post, Daktari. 

 

It's staggering the number of people who do not understand, or simply choose to ignore, the fact that the virus can still be caught and transmitted even if you have been vaccinated.

 

I have had both jabs and feel more confident now with regards to going out for a drink/meal but I am aware of what is going on around me. 

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16 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Imagine when a goal goes in and there has been loads of alcohol consumed.

 

Social distancing will soon disappear when that happens and folk are leaping all over each other.

 

Wee bit different from a holiday down south imo.

 

 

Wait until the 3rd goes in on 60 minutes to complete the humiliation of Engerlund! 

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4 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Good post, Daktari. 

 

It's staggering the number of people who do not understand, or simply choose to ignore, the fact that the virus can still be caught and transmitted even if you have been vaccinated.

 

I have had both jabs and feel more confident now with regards to going out for a drink/meal but I am aware of what is going on around me. 

So what's the point of being vaccinated if we can't go anywhere? 🤔

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I'm going down. Hyde Park and Cavendish Square is where most Scots are congregating. 

 

For all those who think it's 'selfish'. U aren't actually breaking any laws by travelling there or if u have booked in to places to eat/drink. There have been mass gatherings all over the UK, including Hampden next week.

 

Not getting into politics on here. I hope u enjoy the game wherever u end up.

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Was going to go but group of us going to my mates garden now instead. 

 

Cheaper, less effort and probably safer. 

 

Too much faffing about that we can't be arsed with. 

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1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

Anyone who travels to London to watch the match in a pub or wherever is utterly selfish.

 

Sadly the country is riddled with this type of person. 

By that rationale, anyone holidaying in the UK is utterly selfish? 

 

A few days away for a city break is perfectly acceptable. I even heard an advert on the radio last week advertising London as a destination 

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1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said:

So what's the point of being vaccinated if we can't go anywhere? 🤔

 

Who said anything about not going anywhere ? We go to plenty of places but we adhere to the guidelines. Living in a small town in Central Scotland is easier than living in a big city but we are out and about a lot, but we don't go to crowded places these days. Our lifestyle is quieter now that we no longer work. 

 

I do feel for those who used to have a busy social life for sure. 

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1 minute ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Who said anything about not going anywhere ? We go to plenty of places but we adhere to the guidelines. Living in a small town in Central Scotland is easier than living in a big city but we are out and about a lot, but we don't go to crowded places these days. Our lifestyle is quieter now that we no longer work. 

 

I do feel for those who used to have a busy social life for sure. 

Well we're being advised not to travel to London. I'm asking you what the problem is if you've had two jabs and adhere to the rules whilst there? 

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9 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

So what's the point of being vaccinated if we can't go anywhere? 🤔

It is unlikely YOU die or are Hospitalised, but YOU could take someone innocent down!

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1 minute ago, Candy said:

By that rationale, anyone holidaying in the UK is utterly selfish? 

 

A few days away for a city break is perfectly acceptable. I even heard an advert on the radio last week advertising London as a destination 

 

Not the case. I am talking about people going to London to congregate in large numbers. We both know that will happen, as it will in the fans zones. There will be further spikes, for sure. 

 

I would love it if it was safe for thousands to travel and have a great time; I did it myself on many football trips both home and abroad and had a great time. 

 

It's just not safe to congregate at this time. That's my main point really.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Not the case. I am talking about people going to London to congregate in large numbers. We both know that will happen, as it will in the fans zones. There will be further spikes, for sure. 

 

I would love it if it was safe for thousands to travel and have a great time; I did it myself on many football trips both home and abroad and had a great time. 

 

It's just not safe to congregate at this time. That's my main point really.

 

 

We're going down Thursday to Sunday and booked into pubs every day.  

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5 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

Well we're being advised not to travel to London. I'm asking you what the problem is if you've had two jabs and adhere to the rules whilst there? 

 

Don't be so naiive, FH. You know as well as I do that many going will not adhere to the rules. 

 

Get a few beers in, the game starts, Scotland score and hugs all round with total strangers.

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14 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said:

Was going to go but group of us going to my mates garden now instead. 

 

Cheaper, less effort and probably safer. 

 

Too much faffing about that we can't be arsed with. 

 

Sounds like the correct answer to me.  :icon14:

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11 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

It is unlikely YOU die or are Hospitalised, but YOU could take someone innocent down!

Well the person who I COULD take down SHOULDN'T be out and mingling in crowds if they HAVEN'T been VACCINATED. 

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9 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Don't be so naiive, FH. You know as well as I do that many going will not adhere to the rules. 

 

Get a few beers in, the game starts, Scotland score and hugs all round with total strangers.

No, sorry. I'm sick of all this over cautious nonsense. If you've been jabbed twice there is no reason whatsoever that you shouldn't be able to go down and enjoy yourself. That was the whole point of the vaccination programme, to get the country/industries/hospitality up and running again.  

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17 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

It is unlikely YOU die or are Hospitalised, but YOU could take someone innocent down!

 

But if you have been vaccinated how can you take someone else down?

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52 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Imagine when a goal goes in and there has been loads of alcohol consumed.

 

Social distancing will soon disappear when that happens and folk are leaping all over each other.

 

Wee bit different from a holiday down south imo.

Football and social distancing doesn’t work. When Leicester scored the other week, there were guys all over the shop ! That’s in the ground !

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Enjoy yourselves, it’s about time we did. 
 

The only reason I’m not travelling is that I’ve never done so unless I have a ticket (bar one time in Amsterdam but I was 75/25 sure I was getting a ticket, which I did).

 

Selfishness? The jags seem to be working and Covid has probably been relegated to the Lowland League Second Division in terms of deaths over the last few months, it’s about time the public got out there and started living again. 

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18 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

But if you have been vaccinated how can you take someone else down?

Do you seriously not know, that even after both vaccinations you can still transmit the virus to someone else?

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2 hours ago, Negan said:

Im already in England. 

You said in your opening post you were in Plymouth. Plymouth to London is 200 miles+ so it's a 400+ mile round trip (or do you think that doesn't matter cos you're not leaving England?)

 

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10 minutes ago, lou said:

Do you seriously not know, that even after both vaccinations you can still transmit the virus to someone else?

 

 

Not going to use this thread for yet another covid discusison.  I see it very differently to you, as many hundreds of millions also do.

 

All I will say is we need to as a people draw a line and start living.  There are just simply FAR more serious shit out there than this very bad flu that just under 100% survive and most of them do not even know they have it.

 

It has been 16 months now - enough already.  There will be close to 50M vaccinated in this country by the time of the England Scotland game - now is the time to start living with it.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Musemic said:

You said in your opening post you were in Plymouth. Plymouth to London is 200 miles+ so it's a 400+ mile round trip (or do you think that doesn't matter cos you're not leaving England?)

 

It doesnt matter because im not breaking any laws. Fully vaccinated.

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11 hours ago, Negan said:

Is anyone going to London for the England game? If so, where are you all drinking if not actually at the game? Il be travelling from Plymouth as Im based there with work but keen to find out where other jambos are gonna be! 

 

I pre-booked a hotel with a few lads from the work, but because we missed out on tickets we decided to cancel and just make a day/weekend of it here. Fanzones etc are going to be strict and with so many restrictions still in place, it'll not be much fun.

 

Shame because in normal circumstances it would've been outstanding down there.

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Also, may I add, if people are getting vaccinated but still cant travel, then whats the point in being vaccinated at all? We wont be progressing would we?

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