BackOfTheNet Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Would love for the next Velicka to sign! Not quite goal of the day. But I’m bored so I’m going to take a punt on away kit reveal. Muted whelms to commence shortly after. Edited July 19, 2021 by BackOfTheNet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory78 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Would love for the next Velicka to sign! Not quite goal of the day. But I’m bored so I’m going to take a punt on away kit reveal. Muted whelms to commence shortly after. I can't remember this game at all must've been on holiday or something at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccjambo1874 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Andy Carroll?!?! Think a few folk have spent too much time in the sun this weekend. Delusional 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Simo said: Andy Carroll was on 90k a week at West Ham... Yes. Was. That was 2yrs ago. He's been at Newcastle since, on a rumoured £30k p/w. Steven Naismith was on £55k p/w at Norwich before he joined us. Some players know when their stock has dropped and when to take a step down. I mean its no happening, he can probably still cut it at a level above us, so we've no chance. Edited July 19, 2021 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Yes. Was. That was 2yrs ago. He's been at Newcastle since, on a rumoured £30k p/w. Steven Naismith was on £55k p/w at Norwich before he joined us. Some players know when their stock has dropped and when to take a step down. Andy Carroll will not sign for Hearts on £4k a week. Its mental its even being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: You would agree though, that signing players maybe 8 or 9 games into the competitive season isn’t ideal though yes ? Then we get a period when they need to reach full fitness, then another period where they have to ‘settle’(10 games total it was for GMS) and before you know it you’ve gone through 10-12 league games, a third of the season nearly, and your flawed signing strategy has had an impact it’s hard to recover from. Deadline day is 4 games into our league season, not 10-12.Fact is, the vast majority, (I don't know, 90% or so?) of players out there, are under contract with clubs. Those small % of players that are free agents, are likely just mostly not players we want, or their wanting more money than we'll pay. We are maybe wanting a couple more Liam Boyce type of signings. £150k for a guy with time left on his deal, but his club wants to change the squad so happy to do a wheel and deal, and the player is keen for the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Yes. Was. That was 2yrs ago. He's been at Newcastle since, on a rumoured £30k p/w. Steven Naismith was on £55k p/w at Norwich before he joined us. Some players know when their stock has dropped and when to take a step down. I mean its no happening, he can probably still cut it at a level above us, so we've no chance. To be fair even if we managed it I’m sure referees up here would have a field day with him. Unless he played for one of the uglies. Unplayable on his day Sadly you’re lucky if you get a day out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: To be fair even if we managed it I’m sure referees up here would have a field day with him. Unless he played for one of the uglies. Unplayable on his day Sadly you’re lucky if you get a day out of him Yeah probably. He would smash it up here I think, but considering the wages he's been on over his career, the only hope we'd have of signing him would be if he just fancied it lol, and didn't want to move away too far. Having been on £90k+ p/w contracts previously, he can afford to just go somewhere enjoyable for a year. Edited July 19, 2021 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Almost 100 pages since we signed Cochrane. Time to update the thread title 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: Andy Carroll will not sign for Hearts on £4k a week. Its mental its even being discussed. He might do. Who's going to pay him the big bucks like? Guys made his money. Made an absolute fortune out of football. Will only care about being somewhere where he'll play every week something he has not done enough of. I reckon he'll probably sign for Gateshead or something. Edited July 19, 2021 by A_A wehatethehibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: To be fair even if we managed it I’m sure referees up here would have a field day with him. Unless he played for one of the uglies. Unplayable on his day Sadly you’re lucky if you get a day out of him Is the kind of signing one of them might go for, in fact. Gerrard will know him well from his time at Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: To be fair even if we managed it I’m sure referees up here would have a field day with him. Unless he played for one of the uglies. Unplayable on his day Sadly you’re lucky if you get a day out of him All very true . Vague suspicion its not a goer but when his name first appeared my immediate thought was Scottish refs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: We’d all love to see something, but with a game tomorrow I’m still saying nothing will be announced until Wednesday at the earliest. Personally I just have a feeling nothing will happen until after ICT. Debatable if anyone before Celtic either. In other words you have absolutely no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: He might do. Who's going to pay him the big bucks like? Guys made his money. Made an absolute fortune out of football. I reckon he'll probably sign for Gateshead or something. We were all saying "We'll never get him permanent - he's on £55k p/w..." about Naismith. Yes he is a massively unrealistic target for a club like Hearts financially speaking, but if we sold the idea of Hearts to him, he might just fancy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Batistuta87 said: We were all saying "We'll never get him permanent - he's on £55k p/w..." about Naismith. Yes he is a massively unrealistic target for a club like Hearts financially speaking, but if we sold the idea of Hearts to him, he might just fancy it. Just need to sell Hearts to him 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: We’d all love to see something, but with a game tomorrow I’m still saying nothing will be announced until Wednesday at the earliest. Personally I just have a feeling nothing will happen until after ICT. Debatable if anyone before Celtic either. So...probably someone in before the transfer window closes 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: Andy Carroll will not sign for Hearts on £4k a week. Its mental its even being discussed. Probably not, but **** it, who cares, its something to chat about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: He might do. Who's going to pay him the big bucks like? Guys made his money. Made an absolute fortune out of football. Will only care about being somewhere where he'll play every week something he has not done enough of. I reckon he'll probably sign for Gateshead or something. He's clearly not physically capable of playing week in week out. There will be a team out there that'll take a chance on him that can pay more than us. We got Naismith because he wanted to come back up the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Batistuta87 said: We were all saying "We'll never get him permanent - he's on £55k p/w..." about Naismith. Yes he is a massively unrealistic target for a club like Hearts financially speaking, but if we sold the idea of Hearts to him, he might just fancy it. Yeah, you never know. These things often depend on where his old mates are as well. He'll have old team mates and people he knows from various clubs. Money will likely be secondary to just getting out somewhere he'll be in the starting 11. Issue we've got is, the crowds and big game atmospheres are often the big draw for players. But we are still without any guarantees when we will see packed Tynecastle again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, droid said: In other words you have absolutely no idea. Yes. I thought that was clear. NO ONE has any clue. If you think I was trying to be ITK then you’ve not been paying attention at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I think this July payment which held up the Naismith deal could well be what's holding things up again this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, BackOfTheNet said: Yes. I thought that was clear. NO ONE has any clue. If you think I was trying to be ITK then you’ve not been paying attention at all. Oh I've been paying attention, paying attention to your negative drivel for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: So...probably someone in before the transfer window closes 👍 Can’t expect miracles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Signing big names, with previous injury problems, has certainly worked well for us in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, droid said: Oh I've been paying attention, paying attention to your negative drivel for a while now. O…kay… I’ll take it from your beacon of positivity you know what you’re talking about. Let me ask you this though, are you aware of the measurement of whelms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Andy Carroll has about 16 kids. No way he signs for 4k a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 It's a bit of a myth that players get to a certain age then don't care what wage they earn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Can’t expect miracles Don't worry, my expectations are very low! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Deadline day is 4 games into our league season, not 10-12.Fact is, the vast majority, (I don't know, 90% or so?) of players out there, are under contract with clubs. Those small % of players that are free agents, are likely just mostly not players we want, or their wanting more money than we'll pay. We are maybe wanting a couple more Liam Boyce type of signings. £150k for a guy with time left on his deal, but his club wants to change the squad so happy to do a wheel and deal, and the player is keen for the move. We’ll have played 9 competitive matches before the window closes. Getting on for 20% of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ari Gold said: He's clearly not physically capable of playing week in week out. There will be a team out there that'll take a chance on him that can pay more than us. We got Naismith because he wanted to come back up the road. He will feel he is perfectly capable of playing week in week out, just probably not at the top top level now. He'll be looking at lower level, somewhere to go and play, and enjoy his last years on the pitch rather than the bench. It won't be about money for a guy that must have made upwards of £50m in wages over the career. Maybe Hartlepool would be a good shout, just got promoted back to the league. Nobody, absolutely nobody, is punting 10 or 20 grand a week on a 32 year old Andy Carrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Barack said: Haven't even read the last page or so. But is that the new wow "rumour"? Sick Note? Love it. Andy Carroll. Who's sick note lol? Wilshere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Yeah, you never know. These things often depend on where his old mates are as well. He'll have old team mates and people he knows from various clubs. Money will likely be secondary to just getting out somewhere he'll be in the starting 11. Issue we've got is, the crowds and big game atmospheres are often the big draw for players. But we are still without any guarantees when we will see packed Tynecastle again. All spot on 👍 Money is usually everything, but sometimes its not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Frustrating isn’t it, our fans knowing we lack players in certain positions and yet we have to believe that Joe Savage and his new recruitment & scouting team will deliver what is needed. Savage’s interview was confidence lifting but the time has come to deliver. He has to deliver for all our sakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Andy Carroll has only managed to play more than 30 league games a season twice in his 18 year career. And has scored once in his last 60 appearances. Edited July 19, 2021 by King prawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I’ve rubbed my eyes a few times, and I’m still not sure I’m reading it correctly. Are folk genuinely suggesting Andy Carroll signs for us? Better yet, do folk actually want him, who I could count on two hands the number of games he’s played in 5 years!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I’ve rubbed my eyes a few times, and I’m still not sure I’m reading it correctly. Are folk genuinely suggesting Andy Carroll signs for us? Better yet, do folk actually want him, who I could count on two hands the number of games he’s played in 5 years!!! You from Chernobyl to have enough fingers? He played 18 games last season alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: We’ll have played 9 competitive matches before the window closes. Getting on for 20% of the season. And they *******s kicked us out with 20% to play for before ! Just had to mention that relevant or no .....😡😡😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Townsend going to Everton. Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Heard we've looked at/looking at a guy from Wigan,Wyke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Herbert said: Heard we've looked at/looking at a guy from Wigan,Wyke. just signed for them from Sunderland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Herbert said: Heard we've looked at/looking at a guy from Wigan,Wyke. The same Wyke that only signed for them just over 2 weeks ago Hearing is impaired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I wonder if we have looked at David Bates. He only has a year left on his contract and Hamburg have been loaning him out the last couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 360 pages and signed about 3 players 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: 360 pages and signed about 3 players 😂 Nearly 18k posts, 2 players we had last season and a loan. Cant be many clubs that have released as many players and signed so few replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbaws Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, King prawn said: Andy Carroll has only managed to play more than 30 league games a season twice in his 18 year career. And has scored once in his last 60 appearances. Ominous post. As good as ITK. Welcome to the club Andy Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Longbaws said: Ominous post. As good as ITK. Welcome to the club Andy Carroll. in hindsight I shouldn’t have looked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramagio87 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: 360 pages and signed about 3 players 😂 Plenty of realistic canditates suggested as well though 😆 Lets be honest we are looking at either young Scottish players from smaller clubs than us or lads from the lower English leagues, think the days of the more 'random' signings like Djoum, Johnsen, Sow etc are a thing of the past as you can't trust they will adapt to the physicality/style of Scottish football. My issue is we keep missing players right under our nose that surely we would be a good platform for? The lad below is a prime example as is the likes of Nisbet at HIbs. https://fulham.fandom.com/wiki/Kieron_Bowie When was the last time we signed a genuinely exciting Scottish prospect from another club? Souttar is the only one i can think of but wasn't that as a result of a failed project to convert him to a CM? There are a few names below that would be good project signings but we aren't even linked with players like that anymore.... Edited July 19, 2021 by Ramagio87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 If I’ve heard of any player mentioned I, immediately discount them. That’s my rule of thumb. NB this is in now way a hint that our favourite racist, shoplifting, deviant superdaddy is coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: If I’ve heard of any player mentioned I, immediately discount them. That’s my rule of thumb. NB this is in now way a hint that our favourite racist, shoplifting, deviant superdaddy is coming Who's NB? Is he signing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Andy Carrol? Oh ma sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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