Stu_HMFC Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, gorgieheart said: Come on.... that's way too sensible ... Join the moan mob, its the way forward..! I normally do 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: Do you want them to sign anyone just for the sake of it? Do you want them paying over the odds just for the sake of signing someone? After the last few seasons we’ve all seen how that works. I’d rather they sign no new players if all it does is lead to more “wage thief” and “$#!te” game day threads. Dont think I could handle another season of that on here. This is what we did in the past. Hopefully those days are well behind us. I would rather play some of the young guys than just sign someone for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Have to agree here go onto transfermarkt and the list of free agents is staggering. Some top quality players too. wages would be a stumbler but a free agent, 28,29 years on the way out would likely take a cut. Or Anne just coughs up extra for the wages There's literally hundreds. I've filtered this down to ages 23-30 and guys around the market value of our top players, but this is the sort of calibre I would expect us to be aiming for in a first team player: Jota Peleteiro Right Winger 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Hernán de la Fuente Right-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Yuri Ribeiro Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Saîf-Eddine Khaoui Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Florian Miguel Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Davide Mariani Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.53m Idriz Voca Defensive Midfield 24 Jun 25, 2021 £1.53m Massimo Bruno Right Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jozo Simunovic Centre-Back 26 Jul 1, 2020 £1.35m Eugenio Isnaldo Left Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jack Hunt Right-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Benjamin Stambouli Defensive Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Vukasin Jovanovic Centre-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ali Adnan Left-Back 27 Jul 3, 2021 £1.35m Noah Loosli Centre-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marco Stiepermann Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Yesús Cabrera Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Dani Calvo Centre-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Filipe Augusto Defensive Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valeriane Gvilia Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Muhamed Besic Defensive Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valentin Eysseric Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Wajdi Kechrida Right-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Kadeem Harris Right Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Gustav Wikheim Left Winger 28 Feb 1, 2021 £1.35m Jessy Benet Central Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Axel Werner Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Max Meyer Attacking Midfield 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jamie Paterson Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marvin Johnson Left Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Roderick Miranda Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Loïck Landre Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ventura Alvarado Centre-Back 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Mariano Peralta Bauer Centre-Forward 23 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Jérôme Prior Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Yaya Sanogo Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Wilder Cartagena Defensive Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Luka Djordjevic Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Fede Vico Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Jeffrey Bruma Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Vladyslav Kulach Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Josh Sims Right Winger 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Ghayas Zahid Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Haitam Aleesami Left-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Campi Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Diego Polenta Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Silva Left-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Mohammed Osman Central Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £990Th. Roman Murtazaev Left Winger 27 Jul 16, 2021 £900Th. Cephas Malele Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £900Th. Pinning all of my hopes on this "playing at the top level" rumour, here are some possibilities: - Josh Sims (Winger): Never quite cut it at Southampton despite some early promise. Wasn't on massive money, maybe £15k p/w. (Possible connection to our new guy?). Would put him in the same sort of bracket ability-wise at this Mueller lad. Wages should be in our ball park. - Max Meyer (Attacking Mid/Winger): Was at Crystal Palace the first half of last season, they let him go to FC Koln where he didn't do too well, and they've released him. Ability levels as above. Wages should be affordable. - Conor Wickham (Striker): Another Palace release-ee. Probably slightly better than Boyce. Wages again though around £15-20k... - Muhamad Besic (Playmaker CM/DM): Always a bit strange he was at Everton for me. Never an EPL player but would suit us nicely. Will have been on decent money at Everton though (possible connection to SN?) - would love to get him as he's one of those skilful midfielders with a bit of flair. - Kyle Edwards (Attacking Mid): Released by West Brom. Quick wee lad, good dribbler, quick feet. Reading apparently interested. - James McCarty (CM/DM): Well al know him. Connections to JS and SN through Hamilton and Everton. - Marco Stierpermann (Attacking Mid): Released by Norwich and apparently on very low wages by PL standards - rumoured to be on as little as £10k p/w. - Henri Saivet (CM): Left Newcastle last month. 30 y/o now but had loads of promise early on. Would be good for us I think. Wages with Newcaslte about £25k though. - Jerome Sinclair (Striker): Watford thought they had a real coup on their hands when they snapped him up from Liverpool a few years ago as "the next Michael Owen"... Various loans later they've released him aged 24. Might be a shout for us with his pace. *Disclaimer before anyone starts* again, I'm not saying we are in any way going to sign any of these boys, just showing some examples of what's out there. Edited July 22, 2021 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I’m seriously concerned about this season. Our team wasn’t good enough last season and an academy player from down south is not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: I’m not making excuses. I’m being selfish. I dont want to read post after post on game threads from negative “I just don’t believe it” fans like you. Why wouldn’t you want them signing the right player for the right money, rather than the wrong player for crazy money? If Hearts offer the right player 4000 a week and he insists on 5000 are Hearts in the wrong to say BOLT? Right now with “fans” like you Hearts are on a hiding to nothing. They can’t win for losing. Can you show me where i said I didn’t want the club to sign the best players for the right money? Savage himself said last week if a player doesn’t accept our offer we move onto the next one so your completely wrong with your analogy. Fans like me, thar pump thousands in every year that demand the best from every aspect of the club? Or folk that accept any old crap that saw us back in the championship under this failed regime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: A handful 🙈, hundreds I would say. Go and have a look at transfer market and see. Depends entirely on what quality we want and what we can afford though surely? Two unknowns. If we'd wanted someone like Andros Townsend and had £4k per week to spend on wages, there certainly wouldn't be hundreds. There probably wouldn't be any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Am I the only one happy we aren’t signing anyone? I don’t want us bringing anyone in whilst Neilson has a say in it. This season for me is get rid of a lot of the dross, hopefully finish about 9/10th, get rid of neilson and the rest of the dross. Then move forward with a new manager and some signings next season. No point bringing in yet another raft of shite players on big deals that our new manager will be lumbered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Playing the 3-4-3 a striker really isn’t a priority now. Boyce plays, Nando for backup and Henderson pushing for game time. A centre back and a real player of quality in centre mid would be nice … Yeah they are definitely more pressing. Maybe even another winger given Ginnellys injury troubles. I don't doubt things are going on in the background, I was just hoping we would be looking more like the finished article by this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Orlando look decent, a nice backheel goal in Mueller's highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 We only sign the right players for the right money is generally what clubs say when they’re getting nowhere in the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 A season lasts 38 games and a 2 year contract 60+ appearances so one game against Celtic, IN CONTEXT, is not worth hurriedly making mistakes AGAIN. Have faith, stay calm, breathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shanks said: Am I the only one happy we aren’t signing anyone? I don’t want us bringing anyone in whilst Neilson has a say in it. This season for me is get rid of a lot of the dross, hopefully finish about 9/10th, get rid of neilson and the rest of the dross. Then move forward with a new manager and some signings next season. No point bringing in yet another raft of shite players on big deals that our new manager will be lumbered with. Jesus Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: There's literally hundreds. I've filtered this down to ages 23-30 and guys around the market value of our top players, but this is the sort of calibre I would expect us to be aiming for in a first team player: Jota Peleteiro Right Winger 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Hernán de la Fuente Right-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Yuri Ribeiro Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Saîf-Eddine Khaoui Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Florian Miguel Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Davide Mariani Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.53m Idriz Voca Defensive Midfield 24 Jun 25, 2021 £1.53m Massimo Bruno Right Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jozo Simunovic Centre-Back 26 Jul 1, 2020 £1.35m Eugenio Isnaldo Left Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jack Hunt Right-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Benjamin Stambouli Defensive Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Vukasin Jovanovic Centre-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ali Adnan Left-Back 27 Jul 3, 2021 £1.35m Noah Loosli Centre-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marco Stiepermann Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Yesús Cabrera Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Dani Calvo Centre-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Filipe Augusto Defensive Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valeriane Gvilia Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Muhamed Besic Defensive Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valentin Eysseric Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Wajdi Kechrida Right-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Kadeem Harris Right Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Gustav Wikheim Left Winger 28 Feb 1, 2021 £1.35m Jessy Benet Central Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Axel Werner Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Max Meyer Attacking Midfield 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jamie Paterson Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marvin Johnson Left Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Roderick Miranda Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Loïck Landre Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ventura Alvarado Centre-Back 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Mariano Peralta Bauer Centre-Forward 23 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Jérôme Prior Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Yaya Sanogo Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Wilder Cartagena Defensive Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Luka Djordjevic Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Fede Vico Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Jeffrey Bruma Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Vladyslav Kulach Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Josh Sims Right Winger 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Ghayas Zahid Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Haitam Aleesami Left-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Campi Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Diego Polenta Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Silva Left-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Mohammed Osman Central Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £990Th. Roman Murtazaev Left Winger 27 Jul 16, 2021 £900Th. Cephas Malele Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £900Th. Pinning all of my hopes on this "playing at the top level" rumour, here are some possibilities: - Josh Sims (Winger): Never quite cut it at Southampton despite some early promise. Wasn't on massive money, maybe £15k p/w. (Possible connection to our new guy?). Would put him in the same sort of bracket ability-wise at this Mueller lad. Wages should be in our ball park. - Max Meyer (Attacking Mid/Winger): Was at Crystal Palace the first half of last season, they let him go to FC Koln where he didn't do too well, and they've released him. Ability levels as above. Wages should be affordable. - Conor Wickham (Striker): Another Palace release-ee. Probably slightly better than Boyce. Wages again though around £15-20k... - Muhamad Besic (Playmaker CM/DM): Always a bit strange he was at Everton for me. Never an EPL player but would suit us nicely. Will have been on decent money at Everton though (possible connection to SN?) - would love to get him as he's one of those skilful midfielders with a bit of flair. - Kyle Edwards (Attacking Mid): Released by West Brom. Quick wee lad, good dribbler, quick feet. Reading apparently interested. - James McCarty (CM/DM): Well al know him. Connections to JS and SN through Hamilton and Everton. - Marco Stierpermann (Attacking Mid): Released by Norwich and apparently on very low wages by PL standards - rumoured to be on as little as £10k p/w. - Henri Saivet (CM): Left Newcastle last month. 30 y/o now but had loads of promise early on. Would be good for us I think. Wages with Newcaslte about £25k though. - Jerome Sinclair (Striker): Watford thought they had a real coup on their hands when they snapped him up from Liverpool a few years ago as "the next Michael Owen"... Various loans later they've released him aged 24. Might be a shout for us with his pace. Before anyone starts again, I'm not saying we are in any way going to sign any of these boys, just showing some examples of what's out there. The thing is, anyone in League One would most likely be interested in those calibre of players too. And unfortunately, most League One clubs have more money than we do. I think we need to lower our expectations of players who were earning 5 figure weekly wages unless it's on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shanks said: Am I the only one happy we aren’t signing anyone? I don’t want us bringing anyone in whilst Neilson has a say in it. This season for me is get rid of a lot of the dross, hopefully finish about 9/10th, get rid of neilson and the rest of the dross. Then move forward with a new manager and some signings next season. No point bringing in yet another raft of shite players on big deals that our new manager will be lumbered with. I’m sort of hoping we sign some decent players through Savage and whenever Robbie leaves the new guy will inherit some decent players. Whoever replaces him will be backed in the transfer market anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: There'll be protests and even less fans will renew next season if we don't compete this year. Eventually the only thing we'll be consolidating is safety in the SPL, that'll be our level if more of the same abject failure we've seen for 5 or so seasons continues this year. More than likely true but protests over a top 6 finish won’t be enough to get Neilson punted and neither will a drop in season tickets. Failing to achieve top 6 is the only thing that will see Neilson lose his job. He kept his job after Brora due to achieving what was expected in the league. It’ll be the same this season. We are the third biggest club in the country but our level is anywhere between 3rd and 7th. That’s certainly the average placings we have finished in my 30 years of supporting the club, including going down twice. I’ll certainly not be demanding we do better than 6th this season but your correct that a lot of fans will demand 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: There's literally hundreds. I've filtered this down to ages 23-30 and guys around the market value of our top players, but this is the sort of calibre I would expect us to be aiming for in a first team player: Jota Peleteiro Right Winger 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Hernán de la Fuente Right-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Yuri Ribeiro Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Saîf-Eddine Khaoui Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Florian Miguel Left-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.62m Davide Mariani Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.53m Idriz Voca Defensive Midfield 24 Jun 25, 2021 £1.53m Massimo Bruno Right Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jozo Simunovic Centre-Back 26 Jul 1, 2020 £1.35m Eugenio Isnaldo Left Winger 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jack Hunt Right-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Benjamin Stambouli Defensive Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Vukasin Jovanovic Centre-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ali Adnan Left-Back 27 Jul 3, 2021 £1.35m Noah Loosli Centre-Back 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marco Stiepermann Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Yesús Cabrera Attacking Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Dani Calvo Centre-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Filipe Augusto Defensive Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valeriane Gvilia Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Muhamed Besic Defensive Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Valentin Eysseric Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Wajdi Kechrida Right-Back 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Kadeem Harris Right Midfield 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Gustav Wikheim Left Winger 28 Feb 1, 2021 £1.35m Jessy Benet Central Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Axel Werner Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Max Meyer Attacking Midfield 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Jamie Paterson Attacking Midfield 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Marvin Johnson Left Midfield 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Roderick Miranda Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Loïck Landre Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Ventura Alvarado Centre-Back 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.35m Mariano Peralta Bauer Centre-Forward 23 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Jérôme Prior Goalkeeper 25 Jul 1, 2021 £1.17m Yaya Sanogo Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Wilder Cartagena Defensive Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Luka Djordjevic Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Fede Vico Attacking Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Jeffrey Bruma Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Vladyslav Kulach Centre-Forward 28 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Josh Sims Right Winger 24 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Ghayas Zahid Attacking Midfield 26 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Haitam Aleesami Left-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Campi Centre-Back 30 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Diego Polenta Centre-Back 29 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Gastón Silva Left-Back 27 Jul 1, 2021 £1.08m Mohammed Osman Central Midfield 27 Jul 1, 2021 £990Th. Roman Murtazaev Left Winger 27 Jul 16, 2021 £900Th. Cephas Malele Centre-Forward 27 Jul 1, 2021 £900Th. Pinning all of my hopes on this "playing at the top level" rumour, here are some possibilities: - Josh Sims (Winger): Never quite cut it at Southampton despite some early promise. Wasn't on massive money, maybe £15k p/w. (Possible connection to our new guy?). Would put him in the same sort of bracket ability-wise at this Mueller lad. Wages should be in our ball park. - Max Meyer (Attacking Mid/Winger): Was at Crystal Palace the first half of last season, they let him go to FC Koln where he didn't do too well, and they've released him. Ability levels as above. Wages should be affordable. - Conor Wickham (Striker): Another Palace release-ee. Probably slightly better than Boyce. Wages again though around £15-20k... - Muhamad Besic (Playmaker CM/DM): Always a bit strange he was at Everton for me. Never an EPL player but would suit us nicely. Will have been on decent money at Everton though (possible connection to SN?) - would love to get him as he's one of those skilful midfielders with a bit of flair. - Kyle Edwards (Attacking Mid): Released by West Brom. Quick wee lad, good dribbler, quick feet. Reading apparently interested. - James McCarty (CM/DM): Well al know him. Connections to JS and SN through Hamilton and Everton. - Marco Stierpermann (Attacking Mid): Released by Norwich and apparently on very low wages by PL standards - rumoured to be on as little as £10k p/w. - Henri Saivet (CM): Left Newcastle last month. 30 y/o now but had loads of promise early on. Would be good for us I think. Wages with Newcaslte about £25k though. - Jerome Sinclair (Striker): Watford thought they had a real coup on their hands when they snapped him up from Liverpool a few years ago as "the next Michael Owen"... Various loans later they've released him aged 24. Might be a shout for us with his pace. *Disclaimer before anyone starts* again, I'm not saying we are in any way going to sign any of these boys, just showing some examples of what's out there. What maximum weekly wage do you think Hearts pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Can you show me where i said I didn’t want the club to sign the best players for the right money? Savage himself said last week if a player doesn’t accept our offer we move onto the next one so your completely wrong with your analogy. Fans like me, thar pump thousands in every year that demand the best from every aspect of the club? Or folk that accept any old crap that saw us back in the championship under this failed regime? How is my analogy wrong? My analogy was Savage offering X, player wants XX. Player told to bolt. We move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Orlando look decent, a nice backheel goal in Mueller's highlights Improved since I watched them. Kaka was okay was his last game, keeper was good too rest were honking, 4 years by now though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Agree. I am trying to be patient but I want us to have the best possible chance of getting off to a good start next Saturday. For me, we need a better centre back in there next to Souttar, a better central midfield player and a decent striker (even if just to bring off the bench). We probably need another centre back too tbh. Even if that happens in the next 9 days its not ideal prep time. That's kind of the point I was trying to make in previous post. Exactly, Celtic are there for the taking. We are only playing three at the back because “It suits the players we have”, no partner for Souttar who we have to hope plays a full season. We are a bit light on decent options off the bench also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Orlando look decent, a nice backheel goal in Mueller's highlights we should go after that Nani . Looks decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Blah blah blah, more excuses, they’ve had months to organise signings, look at January for example where GMS was signed right away. Everyone else is signing players. Savage said we wouldn’t wait on players and would move onto the next one, but apparently we have had two on hold for some reason for weeks. What I want them to do is their ****ing job and get players in that are ready to go by the difficult start to the season, if we don’t we will be looking for a manager in September. Your nappy needs changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: Depends entirely on what quality we want and what we can afford though surely? Two unknowns. If we'd wanted someone like Andros Townsend and had £4k per week to spend on wages, there certainly wouldn't be hundreds. There probably wouldn't be any. If they are trying to get guys we can’t afford then that’s just crazy when there’s plenty of players we can pay a decent wage to who would improve us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Vlad Magic said: Your nappy needs changed. Good addition to the discussion, pish as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: we should go after that Nani . Looks decent Could opare him up with Boyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Stendelnator said: I’m seriously concerned about this season. Our team wasn’t good enough last season and an academy player from down south is not enough. Agreed, a few bog standard wins against lowly opposition seems to have wiped folks memories of some of last seasons struggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: How is my analogy wrong? My analogy was Savage offering X, player wants XX. Player told to bolt. We move on. They’re not the right players if they want more money than we can pay? They’ve have had months to find the right guys at the right price from those that are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I don’t think any of us thought we’d be starting this season’s league campaign against Celtic with the same squad we had last season apart from Cochrane on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Who have you identified as top targets from this list of ‘hundreds’ ? My contributions help pay the £500k salaries of all those involved in sourcing new players for the club we own, it’s not my job to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Agreed, a few bog standard wins against lowly opposition seems to have wiped folks memories of some of last seasons struggles. Alternatively, the change to 3-4-3 and the return of Souttar, have negated a lot of the issues experienced last season … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Your nappy needs changed. Good rebuttal of his point👍 was it even worth making the post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Shanks said: Am I the only one happy we aren’t signing anyone? I don’t want us bringing anyone in whilst Neilson has a say in it. This season for me is get rid of a lot of the dross, hopefully finish about 9/10th, get rid of neilson and the rest of the dross. Then move forward with a new manager and some signings next season. No point bringing in yet another raft of shite players on big deals that our new manager will be lumbered with. Take your point. But, as a few of his supporters often suggest, Neilson's going nowhere. That being the case I'd rather we strengthened with him in charge rather than not at all. Not my way forward, but the stark reality, I'm afraid. 2 year deals max, though, would, at least, make a mess easier to clean after the axe inevitably falls. We still haven't cleaned up the hoarded squalor Levien left behind and he was away before Covid 19 was ever mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: I don’t think any of us thought we’d be starting this season’s league campaign against Celtic with the same squad we had last season apart from Cochrane on loan. We have to hope we get someone in by then 🤞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On one hand I am concerned, as I don’t want last season’s squad (which is in effect still is) trying to compete in a league above. Also, teams that finished high up the league last season have either kept their squad intact or have added to it, like Hibs, Aberdeen, St. Johnstone or Livingston. On the other hand watching Motherwell last night against Airdrie, we should have enough to get by some of the dross near the bottom. But we don’t want a mid table finish and I suppose those of us desperate to see signings is because we want top half not to even be a question and to immediately compete for the best of the rest at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Alternatively, the change to 3-4-3 and the return of Souttar, have negated a lot of the issues experienced last season … That can’t be ascertained until we play a decent side, he can’t cover for every Halkett mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: It’ll cut the mustard for budge and Neilson. Top 6 is the aim. Fans demanding more and expecting to compete for 3rd won’t bother the club. Only way Neilson gets the sack in my opinion is if we look like we are struggling to make top 6. Other than that he’s on easy street. Yup. The club has already shown, certainly during the pandemic they don’t really listen to the grumbling. Different when Tyney is full but who knows when that’s gonna be? I’d expect top 6 will be enough for those in charge regardless of performance/style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, martoon said: Take your point. But, as a few of his supporters often suggest, Neilson's going nowhere. That being the case I'd rather we strengthened with him in charge rather than not at all. Not my way forward, but the stark reality, I'm afraid. 2 year deals max, though, would, at least, make a mess easier to clean after the axe inevitably falls. We still haven't cleaned up the hoarded squalor Levien left behind and he was away before Covid 19 was ever mentioned. Good post in response to another good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: What maximum weekly wage do you think Hearts pay? Honestly not a clue mate but considering our average wage is north of £100k p/a I would say at a wild guess that for the right first team calibre player we could probably do around £4-6k p/w, which is likely what we'll be paying or will have paid to the likes of Gordon, Naismith, Berra, Boyce, Damour. Halliday, GMS, Gino, Walker etc won't be miles behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sertse said: Good rebuttal of his point👍 was it even worth making the post? Point what point? His dummy is on the floor and has a shitey arse because transfers are taking longer than he wants. Act like a bairn expect to be called out for acting like a bairn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: I don’t think any of us thought we’d be starting this season’s league campaign against Celtic with the same squad we had last season apart from Cochrane on loan. Don't think even the happiest of happy clappers could argue that. Of course it could all change in the next 9 days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hibs Twitter have confirmed the signing of an American. Unbelievable they have pulled that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That can’t be ascertained until we play a decent side, he can’t cover for every Halkett mistake. We’ve gone from losing to Alloa and Brora Rangers to winning game after game without conceding a single goal. A clear improvement. A new centre back is essential but I’d rather we get it right than rush in and end up with a poor signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, SuperstarSteve said: Hibs Twitter have confirmed the signing of an American. Unbelievable they have pulled that off. Meanwhile we have a special deal on hospitality for the Inverness game on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: Hibs Twitter have confirmed the signing of an American. Unbelievable they have pulled that off. Credit where its due, that is a cracking signing. Can't believe I just said that. Edited July 22, 2021 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said: Hibs Twitter have confirmed the signing of an American. Unbelievable they have pulled that off. Seems a very good signing but then so did Perry Kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: We’ve gone from losing to Alloa and Brora Rangers to winning game after game without conceding a single goal. A clear improvement. A new centre back is essential but I’d rather we get it right than rush in and end up with a poor signing. That’s not all down to Souttar though, we were awful in Greenock. As I’ve said there’s been months to find a player, no rush was required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Batistuta87 said: Credit where its due, that is a cracking signing. Can't believe I just said that. ***** are signing players for January and we can’t get guys for now 🙈🤬. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Meanwhile we have a special deal on hospitality for the Inverness game on Sunday. I thought you would’ve focused on the wonderful restaurant “chef” 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Could be another Jamie Maclaren might be a quality signing..... But who gives a ****... Hearts need to get the finger out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: ***** are signing players for January and we can’t get guys for now 🙈🤬. Its ruined my day mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: I thought you would’ve focused on the wonderful restaurant “chef” 😜. 😂😂 I have been actually. Thought it was fairly decent but didn't blow me away. No idea how it was number 1 on trip advisor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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