davemclaren Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I would have been happy with him staying on from last season but it’s hard to see how he would get any/many games due to our style and performances. I doubt Joe is being tasked to find an Irving like player. His ship has sailed imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Sooks said: Who would you replace in the team to put him in He would be a squad option which we will need, as playing more football next season. 433 with a midfield of Irving, Beni, Devlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, King prawn said: Irving getting into our current side do we want to compete with the old firm next season or what? Challenge the old firm with Robbie in charge 🙄. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bannon Flick Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He’ll end up at Hibs. Guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He could maybe end up at Hibs and be given a massive price tag and some fabricated title about being the best young midfielder in the country or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I was a big fan of Irving but I don't think he would be a regular starter for us now and maybe not even a regular on the bench, however if he is available at the right price, and given that we know he has qualities, then he might be worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Andy Irving does not improve our squad in any aspect. League 2 or National League bound, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: He would be a squad option which we will need, as playing more football next season. 433 with a midfield of Irving, Beni, Devlin. I hate to say this about a young Hearts supporter trying to make his way with his career but I think we will be aiming for better even as squad options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Challenge the old firm with Robbie in charge 🙄. Who do you think could challenge the bad guys with our budget? And please don't say Stendl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Who do you think could challenge the bad guys with our budget? And please don't say Stendl. Why not Stendel he has a better promotion to his name than Robbie does 😂 but seriously that's upto the board to decide mate. Wouldn't mind Kjetil Knutsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sooks said: I hate to say this about a young Hearts supporter trying to make his way with his career but I think we will be aiming for better even as squad options Doesn't surprise me we don't have a lot of faith in our youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Doesn't surprise me we don't have a lot of faith in our youth. They have to be good enough though or at the very least they have to fit in to a system that is successful and I would have serious doubts whether Irving is or can do either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Why would Andy sign a contract with us now? He turned down our offer of a contract while a championship player because he didn’t believe we were offering what he thought he was worth. We can’t afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I’d sooner take Damour back. That’s the level. These guys were absolute pish for us. Good luck to Irving at Raith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Bongo wants Hearts to be better and get closer to the OF yet also wants Andy Irving back……… Can someone order a straight jacket immediately please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sooks said: They have to be good enough though or at the very least they have to fit in to a system that is successful and I would have serious doubts whether Irving is or can do either We took a chance of Beni we didn't know if he would be good enough after poor spells in English championship, I watched him in a behind closed doors friendly against hibs, he had an immediate presence on the pitch that day. Devlin we didn't know if he would suit Scottish football. Trust is a big thing in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, DH1986 said: Bongo wants Hearts to be better and get closer to the OF yet also wants Andy Irving back……… Can someone order a straight jacket immediately please. I don't think Andy Irving is a bad player yes no need for the insults 😂but if that's how you get a buzz crack on. I believe under the correct coaching and manager Andy has a place in Scottish football. And with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: We took a chance of Beni we didn't know if he would be good enough after poor spells in English championship, I watched him in a behind closed doors friendly against hibs, he had an immediate presence on the pitch that day. Devlin we didn't know if he would suit Scottish football. Trust is a big thing in football. Baningime was an absolute coupe and he was very highly rated by Everton and the fans down there Devlin I totally agree with you on as he was signed mainly on his numbers rather than watching him play the metrics guy at Hearts really proved his worth there The difference is though we played Irving a lot and we knew what he was like first hand we showed a lot of trust in him as sad as it may be he is not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: I don't think Andy Irving is a bad player yes no need for the insults 😂but if that's how you get a buzz crack on. I believe under the correct coaching and manager Andy has a place in Scottish football. And with us. Now if we are talking young lads that I would love to see back at the club under the current management and with the current team mates then it is the Japanese lad in that thumbnail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sooks said: Now if we are talking young lads that I would love to see back at the club under the current management and with the current team mates then it is the Japanese lad in that thumbnail Yeah good player very intelligent didn't get enough credit tbh. Yet some say he's shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Yeah good player very intelligent didn't get enough credit tbh. Yet some say he's shite. Definitely not shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: I don't think Andy Irving is a bad player yes no need for the insults 😂but if that's how you get a buzz crack on. I believe under the correct coaching and manager Andy has a place in Scottish football. And with us. @Bazzas right boot be along in a min to tell us Sean tried to play the ball there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Not good enough for where we are now. Not even close tbh considering we should be looking to improve constantly on what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Not good enough for where we are now. Not even close tbh considering we should be looking to improve constantly on what we have. Indeed, I'd rather see the likes of young Smith get a shot. Andy wouldn't improve the squad for me so I don't think he should be blocking a youngster's potential progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Do feel for him (I know I may be the only one on here.) He wanted to try something different, but it has fallen apart when things were getting better for him. I am sure he will get plenty offers in Scotland if he comes back (lower Premiership or upper Championship clubs.) But I hope he gets some offers in Germany. The ship has sailed for him coming back to Hearts though, the level of player has gone up in recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He's absolute shite. He'll end up at Kilmarnock or some other diddy club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He struggled to get into the team when we were pish. He’d be nowhere near our team now. He’s Falkirk etc standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Folk wanting Irving back, Brandon on a new deal and Euan Henderson up top...all whilst demanding 3rd place and a cup run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 No thanks , We've moved on to better quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Folk wanting Irving back, Brandon on a new deal and Euan Henderson up top...all whilst demanding 3rd place and a cup run. Realistically I believe we need a squad to play European football. We have already shown weakness when key player's like Gordon, Halkett, Souttar, who is leaving at end of season and Boyce etc are out. make no mistake either Robbie will sign 8/10 player's in summer or will give some of the youth a chance. Which I believe they deserve and aren't as bad as some make out feck have a bit of faith in them. Pollock looks alright, Mcgill, Smith, logan have all shown in glimpses they have quality. If Ann and James are feeling flush, to sign multi million pound player's then go for it. Edited March 24, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Smithee said: Indeed, I'd rather see the likes of young Smith get a shot. Andy wouldn't improve the squad for me so I don't think he should be blocking a youngster's potential progression. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Staggered that there's quite a few on here who would take Irving back. Wouldn't improve us whatsoever. Would struggle to get a game for the likes of Kelty and Edinburgh City, and I'm not taking the p***. One of the most overrated youngsters we've had. That being said, fair play to him for giving it go in a foreign league. Unfortunately didn't work out and good luck to him wherever he ends up. Edited March 24, 2022 by Chimp wrong wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: I would have been happy with him staying on from last season but it’s hard to see how he would get any/many games due to our style and performances. I doubt Joe is being tasked to find an Irving like player. His ship has sailed imo. I have a feeling we may be receiving fees for the likes of Beni and Devlin in summer, like bodo this is what genuinely happens to clubs on the up. Anything like a £5mil offer or above and I reckon the club would seriously consider it. If they do hopefully they can leave with a Scottish cup win to there achievements. All speculation don't take this as I'm saying they are definitely going, just have a feeling that clubs will have seen the progress we have made and be in for them. They are good enough to play English championship football / lower level Premier league. Even if a squad player for a prem team they are still very young. Hopefully we can keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Unlike Sevco we don’t bring back players that do walking away end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: I have a feeling we may be receiving fees for the likes of Beni and Devlin in summer, like bodo this is what genuinely happens to clubs on the up. Anything like a £5mil offer or above and I reckon the club would seriously consider it. If they do hopefully they can leave with a Scottish cup win to there achievements. All speculation don't take this as I'm saying they are definitely going, just have a feeling that clubs will have seen the progress we have made and be in for them. They are good enough to play English championship football / lower level Premier league. Even if a squad player for a prem team they are still very young. Hopefully we can keep them. Probably not Beni now if he's long term injured, poor lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Smithee said: Probably not Beni now if he's long term injured, poor lad Yeah I think coming to us has certainly given them a platform that they are now expressing themselves on the pitch which they didn't have at other clubs, though not Robbies biggest fan he deserves huge amounts of credit for that along with management and savage. They have done really well under Neilson, and he's the one who's got them playing like that. Edited March 24, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DH1986 said: Irving wouldn’t even make our bench imo, Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said: Unlike Sevco we don’t bring back players that do walking away end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: @Bazzas right boot be along in a min to tell us Sean tried to play the ball there... What do you mean tried? He did. Not even a foul, diving sheep shagging *******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: I have a feeling we may be receiving fees for the likes of Beni and Devlin in summer, like bodo this is what genuinely happens to clubs on the up. Anything like a £5mil offer or above and I reckon the club would seriously consider it. If they do hopefully they can leave with a Scottish cup win to there achievements. All speculation don't take this as I'm saying they are definitely going, just have a feeling that clubs will have seen the progress we have made and be in for them. They are good enough to play English championship football / lower level Premier league. Even if a squad player for a prem team they are still very young. Hopefully we can keep them. So we’ll have money to bring in someone better than Andy Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: What do you mean tried? He did. Not even a foul, diving sheep shagging *******. Hee hee! In actual fact, the highlights are terrible. The foul Abdn were given was nothing like it from Halkett, never a foul in a million years and then the ref lets them take a quicky fully 10 yards away from the incident. It was complete incompetence that entire passage. We'd absolutely owned them until that point too and my feeling was always we win that game we don't end up bottom. Weirdly the whole demotion thing etc, you could easily argue helped us over all!! So get it round everybody!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, boag1874 said: So we’ll have money to bring in someone better than Andy Irving Yes but you still need squad player's. Not everyone is happy to be a bit part player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Don’t wish the lad any harm but don’t want him back. Ridiculously left footed, slow and just not dynamic enough. Great left foot.. but not enough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyp1874 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, buzzbomb1958 said: Unlike Sevco we don’t bring back players that do walking away end of He’s not good enough anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I’d sooner take Damour back. That’s the level. These guys were absolute pish for us. Good luck to Irving at Raith That’s about the size of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: I don't think Andy Irving is a bad player yes no need for the insults 😂but if that's how you get a buzz crack on. I believe under the correct coaching and manager Andy has a place in Scottish football. And with us. mmm, liked him, wanted to stay with the correct coaching I too feel he would of progressed. However the club and he were poles apart on his worth and his bubble has very much popped. Can't forget easily the way he rushed out the door and am just not sure he is worth the upheaval his return would cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, DH1986 said: Bongo wants Hearts to be better and get closer to the OF yet also wants Andy Irving back……… Can someone order a straight jacket immediately please. He obviously thinks our only way of getting closer to them is to head back down the leagues towards the lowland league so we can be right beside their B teams! It's the only explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Irving would not work as one of the two CMs in our recent formations and style of play, which was probably why we were willing to give him a new contract but not a top one. If he's a free agent someone here might take a chance on him until the end of the season. Maybe even a desperate relegation-threatened team like Aberdeen or Hibs. He'll almost certainly be abler to get a Scottish Championship team to give him a go, and could end up rebuilding his career like Robinson and McGhee did. Edited March 24, 2022 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Irufushi said: Andy Irving is pish. If we signed him and players like him we’d go back to being pish like when he last played for us. Pish is harsh, he’s got an excellent left foot but I don’t think he’s as dynamic as we need. Weird ****ing move though 😂 His agent needs sacked. Complete waste of his time and energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Realistically I believe we need a squad to play European football. We have already shown weakness when key player's like Gordon, Halkett, Souttar, who is leaving at end of season and Boyce etc are out. make no mistake either Robbie will sign 8/10 player's in summer or will give some of the youth a chance. Which I believe they deserve and aren't as bad as some make out feck have a bit of faith in them. Pollock looks alright, Mcgill, Smith, logan have all shown in glimpses they have quality. If Ann and James are feeling flush, to sign multi million pound player's then go for it. Robbie likes a fairly small first team squad, there has already been talk that he will increase that by a couple for Europe. So it should mean that young players can be used to add further depth. Though this is where we need a reserve league or B team to keep those players ticking over till they are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.