JamboAl Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Unionists are nationalists, they’re just British nationalists. But that’s by the by... I simply made a wee (albeit admittedly crude) joke aimed at an element of the support that is a little too enamoured for Lafferty for non-footballing reasons (not saying this is you). As for the 2 cheeks of the same arse, I would say I find myself somewhere in the middle but on second thought, that would make me an... And if anyone had made a similar crack, but the other way, all hell would be let loose. Quote
tokyowalnut Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Scoring a stunning free kick and he couldn’t bring himself to celebrate so not to offend them. Great goal, but it really annoyed me. Clearly still does 😆 We don’t need Lafferty to get out of the Championship. As said above, shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Robbo, I can think of a handful (which is measly) of strikers since Robbo that I would have ahead of Lafferty. Quote
Weakened Offender Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: only it’s not. Technically Janny was better but more effective no. ..neither he or bednar got the goals and both played in a FAR stronger team . Cheers best since Robbo is a stone cold fact. absolutely loved a goal in big games as well did laff.. an absolute hero He was an absolute hero to a number of chronic sad acts. To most other Hearts fans he was a good signing and a decent striker, who loved playing against Celtic. Quote
Weakened Offender Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: Scoring a stunning free kick and he couldn’t bring himself to celebrate so not to offend them. Great goal, but it really annoyed me. Clearly still does 😆 Annoys me too. **** him. Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, JamboAl said: And if anyone had made a similar crack, but the other way, all hell would be let loose. The other way? As in people only enamoured with Lafferty for footballing reasons or people just not that enamoured with him? 🤔 Quote
pointon Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Where’s a new player when you need one 😁 Quote
DC_92 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: only it’s not. Technically Janny was better but more effective no. ..neither he or bednar got the goals and both played in a FAR stronger team . Cheers best since Robbo is a stone cold fact. absolutely loved a goal in big games as well did laff.. an absolute hero Isma was slightly more prolific in the same team. 13 goals in 35 league appearances compared to 13 in 37 for Lafferty. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he was better. Which is also why Lafferty is not our best striker since Robbo. Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: He was an absolute hero to a number of chronic sad acts. To most other Hearts fans he was a good signing and a decent striker, who loved playing against Celtic. Great signing, most prolific since Robbo (fact), some unbelievable goals, loved a goal against hibs and the the hooped demons winning us several points and playing his part in some historic results. If he doesn’t qualify as a hearts hero then who does 🤷♂️ Let’s cut to the chase - the majority people who DONT think he’s a hero are chronic sad acts who let THEIR politics and intolerance influence their view of Kyle. They can’t see it but they are are themselves in fact the bigots they moan so loudly about. watch these highlights. I’d love anyone on here to point out a player (with maybe the exception) of Rudi with a better collection of absolute peaches for hearts. All of this in 1 season 1. Quote
John Findlay Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: I cannot think of seeing a better Hearts goal direct from free kick. Turned to my brother as he was shaping up , saying "no chance from there". A ****ing cracker. I doubt he has scored better and then doesn't celebrate. Eammon Bannon against Morton at Tynecastle in a 3-0 victory. Paul Hartley against Hibernian in that semi final. Paul Hartley against Celtic at the School end. Edited January 14, 2021 by John Findlay Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, DC_92 said: Isma was slightly more prolific in the same team. 13 goals in 35 league appearances compared to 13 in 37 for Lafferty. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he was better. Which is also why Lafferty is not our best striker since Robbo. big laff scored 21 goals for hearts in all comps 👍🏻 And don’t make me laugh - ISMA, though not as bad as he was made out to be is not on the same ****ing planet as lafferty 😂 Quote
JamboAl Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: The other way? As in people only enamoured with Lafferty for footballing reasons or people just not that enamoured with him? 🤔 Aye, what else could it possibly be? Quote
Bongo 1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Lafferty or Wighton hmm 🤔 Lafferty or Wighton being backup to Boyce 🤔. No offence to Wighton, but I know who I would rather have 👍. Edited January 14, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Lafferty or Wighton hmm 🤔 lafferty or Wighton being backup to Boyce 🤔. No offence to Wighton, but I know who I would rather have 👍. 👏 it shouldn’t even be a discussion. Folk are falling over themselves to downplay how good laff was. Someone scored a better free kick in 1972 though 😂 need to ****ing behave themselves Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: big laff scored 21 goals for hearts in all comps 👍🏻 And don’t make me laugh - ISMA, though not as bad as he was made out to be is not on the same ****ing planet as lafferty 😂 Well he has a point. In the same timeframe at the club Isma actually has a better goals per game ratio than Lafferty. And he actually assisted, which Lafferty failed to do. Isma like Lafferty should not be uttered in the same breath as Robbo, but to say Lafferty is miles ahead of Isma isn’t really backed up by the facts (stats). Quote
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Are we even linked to Lafferty? This comes up every window Quote
bajthejambo Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 There's a case for Lafferty being the best signing we've made in the Budge era. With that being said, I'm not sure he's the right profile for what we need now? Quote
DC_92 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: big laff scored 21 goals for hearts in all comps 👍🏻 And don’t make me laugh - ISMA, though not as bad as he was made out to be is not on the same ****ing planet as lafferty 😂 I chose league goals because it makes the stats comparable. All competitions goals aren't comparable because they're skewed by goals against Elgin, East Fife and Peterhead. I agree that Isma isn't a better player than Lafferty, despite being more prolific. By the same token, we've had other strikers who were better than Lafferty, if not as prolific. Quote
BigStein Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Laff was a decent player, big game sort of guy and good scoring rate, wouldn't expect him to put in much effort at the likes of Alloa away though. Probably better finding someone a bit more hungry to succeed Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Annoys me too. **** him. Yet you’d be perfectly happy if Craig Gordon celebrated like **** for Celtic against hearts? or What did you think when Rudi Skacel didn’t try a leg against hearts and refused to take a pen against us.. which from a neutral perspective was far worse wasn’t it. Just be honest. It’s got nowt to do with that Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Aye, what else could it possibly be? Listen, I know what you are inferring. But my original wee joke was also inferring, but inferring a particular type of person. You may think it was inferring unionists, but I’m telling you (as the person who made the joke) it was inferring people specifically who sing certain types of songs and love Lafferty more for his salutes than his goals. I would hope that anyone who isn’t like that would want those people ridiculed too, surely. Quote
John Findlay Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: 👏 it shouldn’t even be a discussion. Folk are falling over themselves to downplay how good laff was. Someone scored a better free kick in 1972 though 😂 need to ****ing behave themselves Lafferty is not coming back so dry yet eyes oot. Quote
heatonjambo Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Great signing, most prolific since Robbo (fact), some unbelievable goals, loved a goal against hibs and the the hooped demons winning us several points and playing his part in some historic results. If he doesn’t qualify as a hearts hero then who does 🤷♂️ Let’s cut to the chase - the majority people who DONT think he’s a hero are chronic sad acts who let THEIR politics and intolerance influence their view of Kyle. They can’t see it but they are are themselves in fact the bigots they moan so loudly about. watch these highlights. I’d love anyone on here to point out a player (with maybe the exception) of Rudi with a better collection of absolute peaches for hearts. All of this in 1 season 1. in response to the highlighted bit, perhaps those who do it for more than 1 season and who also don’t send boaby pics over their phone 🤷🏻♂️ Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, DC_92 said: I chose league goals because it makes the stats comparable. All competitions goals aren't comparable because they're skewed by goals against Elgin, East Fife and Peterhead. I agree that Isma isn't a better player than Lafferty, despite being more prolific. By the same token, we've had other strikers who were better than Lafferty, if not as prolific. With the exception of janny - who was technically better? 20 goals in 40 appearances in all comps - 7 of those appearances from the bench. Doesn’t matter who they were against.. Quote
OldGorgie Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Kyle is a proven goal scorer. Just what we need. Quote
Weakened Offender Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Great signing, most prolific since Robbo (fact), some unbelievable goals, loved a goal against hibs and the the hooped demons winning us several points and playing his part in some historic results. If he doesn’t qualify as a hearts hero then who does 🤷♂️ Let’s cut to the chase - the majority people who DONT think he’s a hero are chronic sad acts who let THEIR politics and intolerance influence their view of Kyle. They can’t see it but they are are themselves in fact the bigots they moan so loudly about. watch these highlights. I’d love anyone on here to point out a player (with maybe the exception) of Rudi with a better collection of absolute peaches for hearts. All of this in 1 season 1. I attended all but a few of the matches he played for Hearts and the reason he's not a hero to me is because in a lot of those matches he barely gave a toss. He scored some crackers and some against lower league sides. He loved playing against Celtic, hated playing Rangers and turned up once in 4 matches against Hibs. These are all facts. 😉 Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: Lafferty is not coming back so dry yet eyes oot. I know, just laughing at bigots, who claim they aren’t bigots - attempting to downplay hearts hero because of their pathetic politics. Quote
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: only it’s not. Technically Janny was better but more effective no. ..neither he or bednar got the goals and both played in a FAR stronger team . Cheers best since Robbo is a stone cold fact. absolutely loved a goal in big games as well did laff.. an absolute hero Cole Stockton for me. Absolute baller Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, heatonjambo said: in response to the highlighted bit, perhaps those who do it for more than 1 season and who also don’t send boaby pics over their phone 🤷🏻♂️ 😂 Quote
Bongo 1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 You know I'm going to be honest saying this, you know the one thing i think Stendel got wrong during his time at us? Was not signing a guy like lafferty who could get you a goal, out of nothing and as much as I'm negative towards Robbie, I don't believe he is naive to the fact he needs goals, in the team for us to go up and Kyles the man, to give us that option for Boyce if things aren't working. Quote
Weakened Offender Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I know, just laughing at bigots, who claim they aren’t bigots - attempting to downplay hearts hero because of their pathetic politics. He's not a Hearts hero but the sad fact is had he played a second season for us instead of choosing to sign for his own heroes then he probably would have been. 😉 Quote
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Lafferty turned up for the biggest of games, just that extra gear. Without his goals might have found ourselves in deeper trouble earlier. Depends how much he was asking for, likely too much, but the best striker we have had for over 10 years Quote
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: You know I'm going to be honest saying this, you know the one thing i think Stendel got wrong during his time at us? Was not signing a guy like lafferty who could get you a goal, out of nothing and as much as I'm negative towards Robbie, I don't believe he is naive to the fact he needs goals, in the team for us to go up and Kyles the man, to give us that option for Boyce if things aren't working. I would have thought playing without full backs was more of an issue myself. Started to improve when he realised it was suicide Quote
kingantti1874 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: He's not a Hearts hero but the sad fact is had he played a second season for us instead of choosing to sign for his own heroes then he probably would have been. 😉 I wasn’t aware of the 1 season rule mate.. it certainly hasn’t been applied consistently.. that aside You cant blame a guy for wanting to play for his boyhood team on 3/4 times the money. He didn’t down tools, he didn’t try and force the move as far as I’m aware and he made us over £700k Edited January 14, 2021 by kingantti1874 Quote
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Are we in for Lafferty? He is in for us, more likely Quote
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: He is in for us, more likely So theres no actual transfer rumours to they've just invented one. Quote
Weakened Offender Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I wasn’t aware of the 1 season rule mate.. it certainly hasn’t been applied consistently.. that aside You cant blame a guy for wanting to play for his boyhood team on 3/4 times the money. He didn’t down tools, he didn’t try and force the move as far as I’m aware and he made us over £700k Still not a hero though. 😊 Quote
GinRummy Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, Ainsley Harriott said: So theres no actual transfer rumours to they've just invented one. He’s going to Hibs. Quote
jr ewing Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, tokyowalnut said: Scoring a stunning free kick and he couldn’t bring himself to celebrate so not to offend them. Great goal, but it really annoyed me. Clearly still does 😆 We don’t need Lafferty to get out of the Championship. As said above, shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Robbo, I can think of a handful (which is measly) of strikers since Robbo that I would have ahead of Lafferty. Can't think of anyone. Quote
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: He’s going to Hibs. We had a better younger one Quote
BackOfTheNet Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I know, just laughing at bigots, who claim they aren’t bigots - attempting to downplay hearts hero because of their pathetic politics. I “downplay” Lafferty because he isn’t as good as some make him out to be. The fact he has a worse goals to game ratio than Isma and people never want Isma back is curious to me. (I don’t want either of them back, for the record) So I hope that I wouldn’t be classed a bigot in this scenario as my opinion of Lafferty is purely down to his footballing ability. Yes I have separate views regarding certain fans who happen to be uber fanboys of Lafferty for non footballing reasons, but that’s not political as much as it is observational. Edited January 14, 2021 by BackOfTheNet Quote
GinRummy Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, Ainsley Harriott said: We had a better younger one Indeed Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: He's not a Hearts hero but the sad fact is had he played a second season for us instead of choosing to sign for his own heroes then he probably would have been. 😉 This. He couldn't wait to get back to Ibrox. Quote
bazman Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Lafferty was never going to stay for a second season. We couldn't afford to keep him for a second season he was only on a 2 year deal so that we could sell him on after a season to make money on it. Quote
D4nny_ Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, tokyowalnut said: Scoring a stunning free kick and he couldn’t bring himself to celebrate so not to offend them. Great goal, but it really annoyed me. Clearly still does 😆 I’m retrospect though. If you played for Rangers and scored against your boyhood hero’s in Hearts. Would you celebrate? I certainly couldn’t bring myself to, no matter how much they paid me Edited January 14, 2021 by D4nny_ Quote
The Gorgie Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: I “downplay” Lafferty because he isn’t as good as some make him out to be. The fact he has a worse goals to game ratio than Isma and people never want Isma back is curious to me. (I don’t want either of them back, for the record) So I hope that I wouldn’t be classed a bigot in this scenario as my opinion of Lafferty is purely down to his footballing ability. Yes I have separate views regarding certain fans who happen to be uber fanboys of Lafferty for non footballing reasons, but that’s not political as much as it is observational. TBF Lafferty never called us racists, probably why people don't ever talk about Isma coming back. Quote
Hectormasson Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, heatonjambo said: in response to the highlighted bit, perhaps those who do it for more than 1 season and who also don’t send boaby pics over their phone 🤷🏻♂️ At least lafferty didn't shit it against.the tic , and regularly scored goals against them and the Hobos, he was ok for us hun or not !take him back now , in front of a few we still have here! Quote
JamboAl Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Listen, I know what you are inferring. But my original wee joke was also inferring, but inferring a particular type of person. You may think it was inferring unionists, but I’m telling you (as the person who made the joke) it was inferring people specifically who sing certain types of songs and love Lafferty more for his salutes than his goals. I would hope that anyone who isn’t like that would want those people ridiculed too, surely. Aye, surely Quote
Jamhammer Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, johnking123 said: Glynn Snodin against Slavia Prague Was gonna say Fergie’s v Bayern but not direct. Still my favourite though Quote
OTT Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Weakened Offender said: Give it up FFS It was tongue in cheek, but honestly, January is a brutal window when you're trying to fill in an important position - no one is letting their top players leave, and anyone who is available is probably not really worth touching. Lafferty has fallen into our lap, he's 33 and not in a position to really dictate terms, I think a deal to the end of the season makes a hell of a lot of sense as Boyce is injured and Wighton.. the less said the better. Lafferty comes in for 6 months, offers us an actual goal threat and tries to win a year long extension. If he does great, if he doesn't we should still have the resources to win this league. Lets not forget the impact of Covid on cashflow too, we don't exactly have heaps coming in money wise, so surely a free transfer for a known quantity ticks all the boxes? I'm not really sure what the aversion is to it? I do really think its a deal that suits everyone. and irrespective of next season, do we believe Kyle Lafferty, Northern Ireland internationalist, who has played in the Champions league, Euros, World Cup, EPL and Championship and across the continent could score goals in the Scottish Championship? The answer is yes, obviously. Quote
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