Bazzas right boot Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, jr ewing said: Dunfermline must have been shaking with fear at our front three........not. A Blah blah .... Not joke! Not often you hear them nowadays, I think they're due a comeback, here's hoping...... .. Not. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I thought he looked one of your better players in Friday's match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redhelen said: I thought he looked one of your better players in Friday's match. playing 20 yards deeper than he should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, kingantti1874 said: playing 20 yards deeper than he should be. Very probably I've only watched that one game and the semi final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Gizmo said: If we continue to get the ball to Boyce in terrible positions, we'd do better with Wighton as he's far more mobile and capable of skinning defenders to get into the box. Boyce is being ruined by lack of service as much as anything else. Lack of service? How about the numerous sitters he has missed since he came to Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 21/11/2020 at 14:08, jambonian said: The two problem areas for me that i hoped would be rectified at the start of the season was the need for a striker and a solid central defender. Certain individuals have posted replies to this point taking the mick thinking they're smart-arses but last night for me was exactly the problems i expected although hoped we'd get away with. We looked desperate for a striker as Naismith and Boyce were not up to scratch and Wighton was played out of position. This really showed as we tried to get forward with nothing being effective enough. Same with the defence, all over the place when Dunfermline were in and around our box. Popescu was as well not being there. That goal that was deflected into the net...amateurish at best. We need a dominant centre-half in the team. If we don't then there's a lot more of last night to come this season. Popescu was more concerned about his arms not contacting the ball. His shape was all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I like Boyce. Was delighted when we signed him, I know he's missed a few sitters recently, but he'll find his 'touch' again'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groatallar Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, bairdy said: I like Boyce. Was delighted when we signed him, I know he's missed a few sitters recently, but he'll find his 'touch' again'. What’s a sensible comment doing on this pant wetters thread!? We lost that game because of weak defending. Playing with a lack of pace and application was a contributory factor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 19 hours ago, Groatallar said: What’s a sensible comment doing on this pant wetters thread!? We lost that game because of weak defending. Playing with a lack of pace and application was a contributory factor though. That’s right. Our main striker missing an absolute sitter had nothing whatsoever to do with us losing the game 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: That’s right. Our main striker missing an absolute sitter had nothing whatsoever to do with us losing the game 2-1. Our main striker missing a sitter Our centre half missing 2 sitters Same centre half curling up like a wee girl trying to make a block Switching off at a corner and giving their main threat a free header. Our midfield 5 creating the square route of hee-haw. There’s more but that’s depressing enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'd rather Boyce was missing a couple of easy chances a game, instead of the one, if you catch what I mean. Obviously rather he wasn't missing any, but we aren't creating enough chances for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: I'd rather Boyce was missing a couple of easy chances a game, instead of the one, if you catch what I mean. Obviously rather he wasn't missing any, but we aren't creating enough chances for him. You're right, we create nothing and not just Friday. This has been a problem for a few years now. I watched a bit of the Fulham v Everton game and then a bit of Polish football, and the difference in each game was that when the ball was out wide that player attacked the full back, not the endless back passing and dare I say it buck passing that we seem to constantly do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Boyce is top class. He was shite on Friday. I would drop him for 1 game to allow him to rest. He will more often than not score goals for us. Chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, David Black said: You're right, we create nothing and not just Friday. This has been a problem for a few years now. I watched a bit of the Fulham v Everton game and then a bit of Polish football, and the difference in each game was that when the ball was out wide that player attacked the full back, not the endless back passing and dare I say it buck passing that we seem to constantly do. That's about right. 3 new wingers, and only one of them consistently attacks the full back position, ( and he's injured !) 9 out of 10 times the other two just pass it inside or backwards. I'd think Lewis Moore is probably our best bet for a wide player right now. At the very least you get a full game of graft out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Boyce should be rested on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Boyce looks more like a 10 than a 9. Wighton looks the better 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I would be telling Boyce that if he drops short all the time in the way Tony Watt did at Hearts he won't be getting another game. He is compressing the game, making it difficult for our sloth like midfielders and offering no option for our defenders to play an early long ball over the top. If he plays as a centre forward it makes the opposition defenders wary, they have to turn and don't have the game in front of them all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 He is like every other striker at our club. A 1 in 8 or so kind of goalscorer. There are more prolific goalscoring defenders in Scotland than the shower of shite we have seen sign for us in the Budge era. In the past 4 years have all our strikers combined even scored 50 goals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Lafferty and isma scored a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Lafferty and isma scored a few. 25 between them I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: He is like every other striker at our club. A 1 in 8 or so kind of goalscorer. There are more prolific goalscoring defenders in Scotland than the shower of shite we have seen sign for us in the Budge era. In the past 4 years have all our strikers combined even scored 50 goals? Senior career record is 169 goals in 369 appearances, hardly 1 in 8. Agree he has yet to impress with us but at least be honest in your criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: 25 between them I'd say. 30 something. 25 or 26 in the league. We must've scored aplenty in the championship, I8. And I'll apologise to IG, I was a tad harsh. Bluto was my useless attempt at a put down. Tho he did sweat, A Lot. Edited November 24, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, soonbe110 said: Senior career record is 169 goals in 369 appearances, hardly 1 in 8. Agree he has yet to impress with us but at least be honest in your criticism. I only count with Hearts. It is irrelevant to us what any striker done before. I mind Conner slimey heid Sammon banging the goals in for Kilmarnock one season. Joins us and......well I am sure you know what the usual outcome was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: 30 something. 25 or 26 in the league. We must've scored aplenty in the championship, I8. Aye which is why I never included that season in my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Aye which is why I never included that season in my post. 👍 Tho, similar striking potential should be on the cards. I'm pretty confident LB will start to bag the goals, soon. Edited November 24, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I only count with Hearts. He has 3 goals in 5 starts this season. Nowhere near 1 in 8. Overall his record since joining is 1 in 3 which is not bad for a team that was toiling when he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: He has 3 goals in 5 starts this season. Nowhere near 1 in 8. Overall his record since joining is 1 in 3 which is not bad for a team that was toiling when he signed. We are playing in tier 2. He should be 1 in 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, i8hibsh said: We are playing in tier 2. He should be 1 in 1. So he's not a 1 in 8 striker then? Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: So he's not a 1 in 8 striker then? Cool. Not yet, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Coco said: I would be telling Boyce that if he drops short all the time in the way Tony Watt did at Hearts he won't be getting another game. He is compressing the game, making it difficult for our sloth like midfielders and offering no option for our defenders to play an early long ball over the top. If he plays as a centre forward it makes the opposition defenders wary, they have to turn and don't have the game in front of them all the time. This, the only times we've looked decent this season is with Ginnely in the team as he pushes us further up the park with his direct running, without him we're are constantly too deep and a huge part of that is when either Naismith or Boyce drop 20 years for no other reason than to lay the ball back off to an even deeper midfielder. Both Boyce and Naismith seem to play with a hero syndrome in that they need to be on the ball to feel they are leading the team when in fact they can be much more of an asset off the ball by pushing the opposition defence backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: 25 between them I'd say. Isma goncalves put at least 16/17 away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, i8hibsh said: 25 between them I'd say. 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said: He has 3 goals in 5 starts this season. Nowhere near 1 in 8. Overall his record since joining is 1 in 3 which is not bad for a team that was toiling when he signed. And he does a power of dirty work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said: He has 3 goals in 5 starts this season. Nowhere near 1 in 8. Overall his record since joining is 1 in 3 which is not bad for a team that was toiling when he signed. How many times has he played for Hearts? How many goals has he scored in open play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Lovecraft said: And he does a power of dirty work. He was targeted as a proven goal scorer and paid accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Could those are having a go at Boyce (a current internationalist) suggest who we could have got that's better, for the same money and would be willing to play for a club in the Scottish championship ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Could those are having a go at Boyce (a current internationalist) suggest who we could have got that's better, for the same money and would be willing to play for a club in the Scottish championship ? could those who are paid by Hearts to scout players please answer that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: could those who are paid by Hearts to scout players please answer that one. That’ll be a no then. 😄 Did you think Boyce was a good signing when he arrived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: That’ll be a no then. 😄 Did you think Boyce was a good signing when he arrived? Obviously it is a no to what in my opinion was a daft question. In any event I have never criticised the Club for signing Boyce - my criticism is of Boyce’s performances so far where he has missed a sitter in virtually every game he has played! He is an excellent penalty taker but if I’m correct he has only scored 2 goals in open play since he came to Hearts - IMO that is a poor return from a striker of Boyce’s reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Obviously it is a no to what in my opinion was a daft question. In any event I have never criticised the Club for signing Boyce - my criticism is of Boyce’s performances so far where he has missed a sitter in virtually every game he has played! He is an excellent penalty taker but if I’m correct he has only scored 2 goals in open play since he came to Hearts - IMO that is a poor return from a striker of Boyce’s reputation. I certainly think it’s disappointing. He got an injury early in his Hearts career and this season he’s had several international trips which I doubt have helped. Anyway, hoping he peaks by 20/12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I certainly think it’s disappointing. He got an injury early in his Hearts career and this season he’s had several international trips which I doubt have helped. Anyway, hoping he peaks by 20/12. He needs to start taking his chances - starting from tonight! 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 goals from Boyce tonight......it’s in the stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Dongcaster Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 How much are we paying this guy man. Struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heres Rixxy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said: 2 missed pens from Boyce tonight......it’s in the stars Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Deary me. It’s really no getting any better is it. Can’t even hit a penalty properly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Boyce’s attitude is rank rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Needs dropped. Utter shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said: Boyce’s attitude is rank rotten. Behave , that's the one part of his game you can't compaim about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Seriously, wtf is wrong with him? He just trudges around like a broken man completely devoid of any confidence. I’ll credit him for ‘wanting’ the ball and opportunities etc but he looks a complete disaster at the moment. Edited November 24, 2020 by Ibrahim Tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Looks like he just doesn't want to be out there, terrible attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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