Spellczech Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, graygo said: Yes they do. Section 99.25 https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/notice-of-referral-to-arbitration/ I stand corrected. Do you know if they did they award costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spellczech said: I stand corrected. Do you know if they did they award costs? IIRC it was reported at the time that the 3 would be meeting to decide on costs but I havent heard or read anything saying what they were. I think there may have been a period for SPFL etc to provide evidence of their costs, As the case was months ago you would think that they would have made a decision by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, rubyruby said: Karma is in full force now.People were quick to condemn Ann budge when she started the ball rolling in march but whose laughing now ...... Hearts Cos we did the right thing at the right time & now we,re sitting comfortably eating popcorn & enjoying the carnage. Correct. AB was slated from all sides (including, sadly, from some our own "supporters") but everything she said COULD happen is starting to happen already. We won't come out of this unscathed but we will be in a better place than quite a few "well run" clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Carl Fredrickson said: IIRC it was reported at the time that the 3 would be meeting to decide on costs but I havent heard or read anything saying what they were. I think there may have been a period for SPFL etc to provide evidence of their costs, As the case was months ago you would think that they would have made a decision by now. As we lost it would seem fair to assume we took the brunt of most, if not all, costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Is this docking wages not a type of admin that should incur a point deduction?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Which makes it a ridiculous rule. No good guys in Premiership in all of this so maybe seethe would be better after all. Indeed 56 minutes ago, Zico said: I’d have thought force majeure would be hard to justify given their spending. As you say though, if they get away with that and others go down, it has potential for hilarity! It’s a fair point but they would say they overspent last season and we’re fine 🤷🏾♂️🤔🙈. 46 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: If this is the case, and I've no reason to doubt it, then I expect there will be a few clubs desperate to go into admin to try and clear debt but not face any footballing penalties Just to pay football debts, would they be ok for buyers in the current climate? They’d probably be ok but smaller clubs might not, shame 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Dundee united can **** off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hang on a minute. If they are paying £5k of McNulty’s wages what were the Green Brazil paying him? The same Hibs that constantly trumpet about fair play and financial prudence as they criticise any other team that beats them for financially doping. I suspect there are quite a few large wages hidden in Hibs weekly payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 What an amazing thread this is, gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside Get it right roond ye ya DAB's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: It does, if you can call it that. There's a once a week Tiger Moth flight to Heathrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: On a tangent, what is it with American involvement in Dundee’s clubs? What’s the point or the bigger picture? US businessmen have invested a great deal in the third world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: US businessmen have invested a great deal in the third world. It's the latest chat at golf and business clubs in the US: "Picked up your Scottish soccer club yet? Big money to be made trading players I hear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This thread has brought to mind Hibs and their deferment. Have they paid anything back or are they too now looking to cut back further? Would have been nice to have a wee bit turmoil before the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: This thread has brought to mind Hibs and their deferment. Have they paid anything back or are they too now looking to cut back further? Would have been nice to have a wee bit turmoil before the weekend. Turmoil and that mob go hand in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 hours ago, DETTY29 said: Can you submit your last set of accounts with your grant application? Ok, 133% of income last year spent on wages......Bye (Maybe a cheek for a govt to say business books don't balance) Not the scot governments, they can't borrow. The. UK is running at a debt of over 2 trillion built up over 10 years, so aye in that respect you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 hours ago, The Treasurer said: The Force Majeure rule would mean no 15 point penalty unfortunately. Can you imagine the squeaking of some clubs go into administration and stay up and another two go down I’ll bet if Hearts are in a comfortable position leading the championship in late December/early January there will be a focused attempt by Doncaster etc for league reconstruction. St Mirren, Hamilton etc will be desperate for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Due to their inaction, it would be great if any claim is now time-barred!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, rubyruby said: Karma is in full force now.People were quick to condemn Ann budge when she started the ball rolling in march but whose laughing now ...... Hearts Cos we did the right thing at the right time & now we,re sitting comfortably eating popcorn & enjoying the carnage. Unsure we are comfortable Tbh. Better of than most, but far from comfortable, no football club especially in Scotland will be comfortable. It's a level of shit every club is in from 1- being a little shit to Dundee Utd 😂. We're maybe around a 3 or 4 I reckon. Edited October 29, 2020 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mundaydog said: I’ll bet if Hearts are in a comfortable position leading the championship in late December/early January there will be a focused attempt by Doncaster etc for league reconstruction. St Mirren, Hamilton etc will be desperate for it Cant see it. Donkey only cares about Celtic and the guarantee of a possible 4 Old Firms matches each season. Diddy clubs like St.Johnstone and Killie (who will probably stay up) have already shown the are unwilling to sacrifice one home old firm match for reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) , Edited October 29, 2020 by Randy Marsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Feck them. Jute Barstewards Sorry for any Hearts fan from Dundee on here but the sooner that shitehole is razed to the ground the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 🎻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Mundaydog said: I’ll bet if Hearts are in a comfortable position leading the championship in late December/early January there will be a focused attempt by Doncaster etc for league reconstruction. St Mirren, Hamilton etc will be desperate for it Even if he tries they will have the same voting structure and self interest to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I definitely think Reconstruction will be back on the table soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rods said: I definitely think Reconstruction will be back on the table soon. Probably. They'll go for leaving the Prem as is, reconstruct the lower leagues and declare no relegation or promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshades Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Feck them. Jute Barstewards Sorry for any Hearts fan from Dundee on here but the sooner that shitehole is razed to the ground the better. It's ok I'm not offended ,I used to stick up for Dundee as a city .now I'm just embarrassed by the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 What Force Majeure rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) I am old enough to remember when Dundee Hibernian were a shit lower league club that played in White & Black. The only thing good that ever happened to them was Jerry Kerr. Let them die a slow lingering death. Edited October 30, 2020 by Tasavallan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Tasavallan said: I am old enough to remember when Dundee Hibernian were a shit lower league club that played in White & Black. The only thing good that ever happened to them was Jerry Kerr. Let them die a slow lingering death. Not trying to be smart here but I'm old enough to know that I didn't even know they existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Not trying to be smart here but I'm old enough to know that I didn't even know they existed. Wiki 1923 they became United 60s changed to Tangerine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: What Force Majeure rule? Unforeseen circumstances like a pandemic cause an administration then you’re not punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: This thread has brought to mind Hibs and their deferment. Have they paid anything back or are they too now looking to cut back further? Would have been nice to have a wee bit turmoil before the weekend. The first repayment is in December, Dempster being on the JRG probably said to Ron the Con that fans would be back by then 😆😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 23:23, Zico said: Oh hai Dundee Hibernian, how about you find nearly £2m a year from your fans. That’s a lot of pehs for a thousand junkies though. Maybe you could find some generous benefactors who don’t want to bang you full of debt, then asset strip you just after you asterisked your way to a ‘title’ you didn’t win. Also how about you ****in... Sums up the general sentiment of the whole thread, which is really, really, pleasing to hear. Ive turned into a right bitter ***** with regards all things Scottish football and I cannot ever see my mood towards it changing. It’s great to read that I’m not alone. **** them all 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: The Force Majeure rule would mean no 15 point penalty unfortunately. Can you imagine the squeaking of some clubs go into administration and stay up and another two go down 😆😂? Never mind administration - I hoping that a few are forced into liquidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Quite appropriate the BBC website having an article on Mellon entitled "I'm a 15 year old boy again" considering he will soon only be on pocket money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 18:40, Haringshairband said: Nae luck, roond thum twice, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Deevers said: Never mind administration - I hoping that a few are forced into liquidation. Small steps to start with 🙏🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 If I was a DU supporter I would be very worried, in fact when the pubs re-open one of the bar staff where I drink is. It'll be interesting to get his take as he seems in the know. DU are one of many clubs whose supporters will never save them from going bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebroon98 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Have they gone bust yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Sympathetic article on the BBC site. No slap down as to why the club was very recently still appointing players they obviously cannot afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Unforeseen circumstances like a pandemic cause an administration then you’re not punished. I don’t think that will hold.. imagine Utd finish second bottom and stmirren bottom.. Utd went into admin but stmirren didn’t.. stmirren are relegated despite Utd living well beyond means.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Rods said: I definitely think Reconstruction will be back on the table soon. And the hypocrisy will reach unimaginable levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I don’t think that will hold.. imagine Utd finish second bottom and stmirren bottom.. Utd went into admin but stmirren didn’t.. stmirren are relegated despite Utd living well beyond means.. Those are the rules though. No points deduction applied at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamboelite said: And the hypocrisy will reach unimaginable levels. I would certainly hope we are at the front of the que reminding people of 3 failed attempts last season and now is not the time etc. United wont be the only team in trouble St J and Hamilton openely advertise that they rely on the OF coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Those are the rules though. No points deduction applied at present. at the very least I’d look forward civil war which would follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Weebroon98 said: Have they gone bust yet? give it time, tick tock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Those are the rules though. No points deduction applied at present. A points deduction doesn't really matter one way or the other. DU and many of those clubs will never come out of administration if they enter. They simply don't have the will or the numbers within their fanbase to save the club. Thanks to FOH we had everything in place in the event of administration, none of them do. it's administration, liquidation, bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, David Black said: A points deduction doesn't really matter one way or the other. DU and many of those clubs will never come out of administration if they enter. They simply don't have the will or the numbers within their fanbase to save the club. Thanks to FOH we had everything in place in the event of administration, none of them do. it's administration, liquidation, bye bye. they don’t have any creditors other than their owner though. Would be a technical admin to cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: they don’t have any creditors other than their owner though. Would be a technical admin to cut costs. Apart from all their suppliers and possibly HMRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) Edited October 30, 2020 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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