Tommy Brown Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Perfection The old Tynie goals as well Unique stanchions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Perfection The old Tynie goals as well Loved those totally unique goal stantions 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, BarneyBattles said: Good photo - unusual in that it looks like he's the scorer (assuming it's a goal, and a Hearts goal). Some great photos on this thread. I saw a picture once of the Edinburgh Royal mint which I think was down the Canongate and on the wall of a building was I think a heart with Heart of Mid-lothian on it. I was really intrigued if it was maybe the dance-hall our name was taken from. Would love to see it again if anyone knows where it is (might be on the Edinburgh history thread but could be on any of the hundreds of pages!). Was the dancehall not in west crosscausway? Might be wrong but I thought that street had played a prominent part in our beginnings. I'd love to know where that dancehall was. There should be a plaque or something where it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, BarneyBattles said: I found out earlier thanks to a very helpful private message that the Heart of Mid-Lothian dance club was an association of people rather that a physical place. As such, it was like a members club who assembled at various locations so you could well be right that they met in West Cross-causeway. It might've been the place were they met to decide to start a team up. I mind reading that it had a prominent place in our history and it might be that. That or used as a clubhouse when we first played at the meadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Auldbenches said: Was the dancehall not in west crosscausway? Might be wrong but I thought that street had played a prominent part in our beginnings. I'd love to know where that dancehall was. There should be a plaque or something where it was. My understanding is that the clubs first changing rooms were above a pub (Ma Anderson's) in West Crosscauseway when they played at the Meadows. The club was formed by a group of young men who attended a dance hall in the Canongate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 28/08/2021 at 09:01, PortyBeach said: Great set of images. Shows how restricted Tynecastle was/is by being so effectively hemmed-in by the distillery. The ground has been redeveloped and it’s a redundant argument now, but I always felt we should have relocated. I always thought that I was the only one who felt this Porty. Tynecastle is a wonderful stadium but is too small with little scope for expansion. Jamie Bryant who was the brains behind the FOH had plans to demolish the stadium and align the pitch east/west rather than north/south as it is now. According to Jamie this would have allowed for a bigger pitch as well as a capacity in excess of 30,000. His plan was to use the FOH funds to rebuild the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Libertarian said: I always thought that I was the only one who felt this Porty. Tynecastle is a wonderful stadium but is too small with little scope for expansion. Jamie Bryant who was the brains behind the FOH had plans to demolish the stadium and align the pitch east/west rather than north/south as it is now. According to Jamie this would have allowed for a bigger pitch as well as a capacity in excess of 30,000. His plan was to use the FOH funds to rebuild the stadium. You could do this initially by just demolishing the wheatfield. Build a new west stand (with corners) behind the goals and do the rest as and when. Thankyou 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, mre said: You could do this initially by just demolishing the wheatfield. Build a new west stand (with corners) behind the goals and do the rest as and when. Thankyou 😉 I'm not an architect but it seems to me that the current capacity at Tynecastle is too small to allow the club to develop to its full potential. It was interesting a few years ago when we played at Murrayfield that we had 26,000 against Aberdeen and 36,000 against Rangers. I'm sure we also had over 20,000 when we played Kilmarnock. And that was a poor Hearts side. Imagine if we were challenging at the top of the league. Smaller attendance means less revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwasthere1954 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 52 minutes ago, Libertarian said: I'm not an architect but it seems to me that the current capacity at Tynecastle is too small to allow the club to develop to its full potential. It was interesting a few years ago when we played at Murrayfield that we had 26,000 against Aberdeen and 36,000 against Rangers. I'm sure we also had over 20,000 when we played Kilmarnock. And that was a poor Hearts side. Imagine if we were challenging at the top of the league. Smaller attendance means less revenue. 8 hours ago, BarneyBattles said: I found out earlier thanks to a very helpful private message that the Heart of Mid-Lothian dance club was an association of people rather that a physical place. As such, it was like a members club who assembled at various locations so you could well be right that they met in West Cross-causeway. I'm really enjoying this thread, not only for the photographs but the amount of interest in our history. I think that social media has on this occasion helped so many fans that want to know the real history of the club. As an older guy it saddens me that in the past interest seemed to be limited to to a small amount of fans, some of them i knew. So carry on exploring the history and putting it on kickback. Even at my age I want to know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Auldbenches said: It might've been the place were they met to decide to start a team up. I mind reading that it had a prominent place in our history and it might be that. That or used as a clubhouse when we first played at the meadows. You should do one of the Hearts historical tours, if and when they restart. Very interesting and enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Libertarian said: My understanding is that the clubs first changing rooms were above a pub (Ma Anderson's) in West Crosscauseway when they played at the Meadows. The club was formed by a group of young men who attended a dance hall in the Canongate. That’s my understanding as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, davemclaren said: You should do one of the Hearts historical tours, if and when they restart. Very interesting and enjoyable. Brilliant suggestions. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Libertarian said: I'm not an architect but it seems to me that the current capacity at Tynecastle is too small to allow the club to develop to its full potential. It was interesting a few years ago when we played at Murrayfield that we had 26,000 against Aberdeen and 36,000 against Rangers. I'm sure we also had over 20,000 when we played Kilmarnock. And that was a poor Hearts side. Imagine if we were challenging at the top of the league. Smaller attendance means less revenue. I've always thought that too, just under 20k is too small, we prob needed a 28/30k capacity, but suppose be happy with what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Libertarian said: I'm not an architect but it seems to me that the current capacity at Tynecastle is too small to allow the club to develop to its full potential. It was interesting a few years ago when we played at Murrayfield that we had 26,000 against Aberdeen and 36,000 against Rangers. I'm sure we also had over 20,000 when we played Kilmarnock. And that was a poor Hearts side. Imagine if we were challenging at the top of the league. Smaller attendance means less revenue. With the granting of a safety certificate for the old grandstand becoming more uncertain each year, we might not have had much choice but to bite the bullet and rebuild on the existing site? I don’t know. I think you make a good point about the club’s potential. The club directors seem to have understood this point in the 1930s with their mooted plans to relocate and the success years in the 1950s surely reinforced the point. Unfortunately, successive boards in those decades proved lacking in terms of vision and ambition (I appreciate there was the slight distraction of an existential war in between 😊). The sales of Dave Mackay and Alex Young underline this, I feel. As you say, Tynecastle is a decent arena but I think we’ve missed the opportunity to play in an even better one that would allow growth and possibly generate more corporate income. Edited September 4, 2021 by PortyBeach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 03/09/2021 at 11:12, BarneyBattles said: Good photo - unusual in that it looks like he's the scorer (assuming it's a goal, and a Hearts goal). Some great photos on this thread. I saw a picture once of the Edinburgh Royal mint which I think was down the Canongate and on the wall of a building was I think a heart with Heart of Mid-lothian on it. I was really intrigued if it was maybe the dance-hall our name was taken from. Would love to see it again if anyone knows where it is (might be on the Edinburgh history thread but could be on any of the hundreds of pages!). I think that’s a save by the Celtic goalie. I seem to remember the photo from perhaps Albert Mackie’s book, “The Hearts”, which my Dad bought me when I was a youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) On 03/09/2021 at 07:55, dannymack said: Happy Anniversary Great photo. I remember that game vividly -the old ground was rocking! As someone mentions elsewhere, it’s also great to see the old arced goal stanchions again! Look also at how much space behind the goal area we’ve given up with redevelopment. PS - I like your picture of Bobby Walker wearing the Scotland jersey with Lord Rosebery’s colours. Edited September 4, 2021 by PortyBeach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebles jambo Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 07/10/2020 at 09:19, Cairneyhill Jambo said: Jimmy Bone scores the 3rd in a 3-2 win over Hibs in September 1983. An 18 year Robbo also scored the first of his 27 goals against Hibs in this game. First game i took my oldest son to, he's been hooked ever since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 I'll always see Tynie as I did in the 60s. Nostalgia is brilliant, so are all these photos. Thanks to all for reminding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 06/10/2020 at 22:33, Radio Ga Ga said: That’s 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, farin said: Yep, it’s actually at page 145 in mackie’s book saying Beattie puts it out for a corner in the 1956 cup final. That’s spooky, farin. I just dug out my now fragile copy of the book and confirmed my suspicions about the photo when your post pinged in 😱! Bauld mentioned as the “Menace in Maroon” 🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BarneyBattles said: Thanks PB. Love the old photos / stories. There are some great photos in the pub I occasionally frequent showing hearts players on loan at Newtongrange star, including King Willie. My house is roughly in one of the penalty boxes on the old star ground. You’re welcome, BB! See post from “farin” above re King Willie’s 1956 cup final photo. I liked your comment about your house being in a penalty box! I’ve always thought it would be great to live in Logie Green Road which is on the site of the 1896 cup final ground. Edited September 4, 2021 by PortyBeach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, farin said: Yep, it’s actually at page 145 in mackie’s book saying Beattie puts it out for a corner in the 1956 cup final. One of the best posters on JKB is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I’ve always thought it would be great to live in Logie Green Road which is on the site of the 1896 cup final ground. Old pitch markings Would love to see the rule book back then. Edited September 4, 2021 by Tommy Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjambo Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Psychedelicropcircle said: That’s 👌 We’re you in the kilted pig last night ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Old pitch markings Would love to see the rule book back then. Rule 1. Penalty to Rangers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, chefjambo said: We’re you in the kilted pig last night ?? Don’t know if you’re asking me or Tommy the question mate, but no, I wasn’t in the “Pig” last night. I haven’t been there in years! Nice pub, I recall 😊. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Boris said: Rule 1. Penalty to Rangers... 🤣 At least, some things haven’t changed. Rule 2 - if Rangers go bust, award the new club all the previous trophies won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 hours ago, farin said: Yep, it’s actually at page 145 in mackie’s book saying Beattie puts it out for a corner in the 1956 cup final. It’s a framed photo that my late dad had and is now in my Hearts room in my house . I’m guessing there must be a few of them as there was another similar style one posted earlier , but it’s great to get some info on it . Never thought of checking the book though 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said: It’s a framed photo that my late dad had and is now in my Hearts room in my house . I’m guessing there must be a few of them as there was another similar style one posted earlier , but it’s great to get some info on it . Never thought of checking the book though 🙈 A Hearts room. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: A Hearts room. 😎 Class, eh? 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: Class, eh? 👍 Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobreath Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Drew Busby and Willie Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, davemclaren said: A Hearts room. 😎 15 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Impressive. Not overly impressive , when I say a room it’s a bloody small room , just a few things that’s been squired over the years 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Not overly impressive , when I say a room it’s a bloody small room , just a few things that’s been squired over the years 👍🏻 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 12 hours ago, chefjambo said: We’re you in the kilted pig last night ?? Aye defo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) The days when the club could just charge what they want for certain games ! I instantly think of the pieman 🤣 I know Mercer was still in control when this match was played Edited September 5, 2021 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: The days when the club could just charge what they want for certain games ! I instantly think of the pieman 🤣 I know Mercer was still in control when this match was played I think Slavia were/are Rudi Skacel’s boyhood team. Preferred Sparta in their Maroon myself 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 23 hours ago, PortyBeach said: Great photo. I remember that game vividly -the old ground was rocking! As someone mentions elsewhere, it’s also great to see the old arced goal stanchions again! Look also at how much space behind the goal area we’ve given up with redevelopment. PS - I like your picture of Bobby Walker wearing the Scotland jersey with Lord Rosebery’s colours. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautiful-Colour-Football-Print-Bobby-Walker-Scotland-Hearts-1901-A4-/254702139915?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, farin said: Cheap compared to today. Great night & result. Was in the Gorgie Road End that night. It was strange to be in the traditional home end again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, dannymack said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautiful-Colour-Football-Print-Bobby-Walker-Scotland-Hearts-1901-A4-/254702139915?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Great stuff, Danny. Thanks 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: The days when the club could just charge what they want for certain games ! I instantly think of the pieman 🤣 I know Mercer was still in control when this match was played 1930 kick of time, I wonder when 1945 became the norm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 The moment our hearts sank, the moment we had to change, the moment Rangers knew they could step up, after only 5 minutes on the clock this young man's quest to lead Hearts up the steps as winners ended. Despite the thread title staying nostalgic this image definitely doesn't fall into that category, more of a poignant photo of what if ? I'm certainly not glorifying this incident, far from it but IF Gary had avoided injury that day I still maintain our future Hearts timeline would have changed. Regardless of what you think of him the laddie would have went on to be another Hearts legend on the turf... fan, player, captain,coach, manager ambassador! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, dannymack said: The moment our hearts sank, the moment we had to change, the moment Rangers knew they could step up, after only 5 minutes on the clock this young man's quest to lead Hearts up the steps as winners ended. Despite the thread title staying nostalgic this image definitely doesn't fall into that category, more of a poignant photo of what if ? I'm certainly not glorifying this incident, far from it but IF Gary had avoided injury that day I still maintain our future Hearts timeline would have changed. Regardless of what you think of him the laddie would have went on to be another Hearts legend on the turf... fan, player, captain,coach, manager ambassador! We were awful that day, worst I’ve seen us in a cup final. I don’t think the Locke injury changed the outcome but then again we will never know!! However the hurt that day, followed by the joy when Robbo scored in ‘96 LC Final together with Jeffries leadership set us up for the greatest ever day when we won the cup in 1998 ♥️ 🏆 ♥️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Not the Hearts players but the Hearts supporters leaving on the Merchiston Hearts bus to Wembley , sadly not sure of the year . It’s either Orwell Terrace or Place where the club started that the bus is leaving from . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: Not the Hearts players but the Hearts supporters leaving on the Merchiston Hearts bus to Wembley , sadly not sure of the year . It’s either Orwell Terrace or Place where the club started that the bus is leaving from . Place Dalry house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Sherbet said: Place Dalry house 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Think the piper could be my late dad, We lived in Caledonian Crescent he was a member of the club ,as I am today. He was not going to the game as he did not go to Wembley until he went with me in 1969. Think the club moved to Gorgie Road in 1957/58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 One day, a long, long time ago, Hearts travelled to Dens Park... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, dannymack said: One day, a long, long time ago, Hearts travelled to Dens Park... Interesting - if painful 😖 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, PortyBeach said: Interesting - if painful 😖 Despite the lack of quality in the images they're pretty haunting, I can still remember quite clearly the events from that day. There's an image there of fans charging onto the pitch at full time and if you remember when Dundee (their fans) came onto the pitch to celebrate a lot of ours went on from the open terracing too , makes me wonder how the modern day Hearts fan woukd react to such an awful event, im guessing they'd want to exchange scarves and hug the Dee fans as a sign of good sportsmanship 😖😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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