braveheart Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Ill fated time at tynecastle but qualified tonight for next season's uefa cup with his team puskas academy.think he scored about a dozen goals for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 He was playing better than Keena was in the Dundee game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, braveheart said: Ill fated time at tynecastle but qualified tonight for next season's uefa cup with his team puskas academy.think he scored about a dozen goals for them. wasn't given a proper chance ......at hearts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hectormasson said: wasn't given a proper chance ......at hearts.... Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Turned up overweight - we all saw it. Move on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Glad his time with us was cut “shorts”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Will forever be filed under “we will never know”. A very frustrating file it is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Typically quality management from Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 43 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: Agree but vanacek was rather fat when he turned up. What about Phil stamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiatemyhamster Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Smoked-Glass said: What about Phil stamp One of the most rapid fatties I’ve ever seen. If he was on form we were winning that game 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, rudiatemyhamster said: One of the most rapid fatties I’ve ever seen. If he was on form we were winning that game 😍 Yep, an excellent player on his day, but looked like he deep fried everything he ate in lard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiatemyhamster Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, Auld Reekin' said: Yep, an excellent player on his day, but looked like he deep fried everything he ate in lard. Mind Gary McSweggan - went through a fat phase, lost weight got a six pack then a crap phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Treated disgracefully by Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Maradona was a little large. Levein would have disliked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Byrde Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Treated disgracefully by Levein. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Levein's legacy Signing a player and then calling him rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, rudiatemyhamster said: Mind Gary McSweggan - went through a fat phase, lost weight got a six pack then a crap phase Then the next thing I heard about him he’s criticising Hearts 20 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Spellczech said: Turned up overweight - we all saw it. Move on... Yes. But idiot Levein said he was overweight and unfit, but for some reason, still picked him to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Treated like shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 First sight - green boots but didn’t look fat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Shocking man management from Levein. Still cringe when I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollo Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Shocking treatment by an inept manager Folk can criticise DVs fitness if they like, no problem. But Levein oversaw him on the Spain (?) training camp and deemed him good enough to play... AND then oversaw him in training again and then chose to START him in that game at Tynecastle. To then haul him off after 34 mins when the whole team was playing mince.. AND publicly shame the guy was as unprofessional as it gets. Was DV to blame? Maybe partially so, but 80% of the problem was CL, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 His arse was absolutely massive. Can’t believe a professional player could give so much hype and then arrive with an extra 3 or 4 stone in such a short time. Admittedly Levein should never have played him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudiatemyhamster Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Then the next thing I heard about him he’s criticising Hearts 20 years later. He did have a flourish at Tynecastle (culminating in a Scotland cap). I don’t think he was ever happy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, ri Alban said: Treated like shite. Well done David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elshin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, Mollo said: Shocking treatment by an inept manager Folk can criticise DVs fitness if they like, no problem. But Levein oversaw him on the Spain (?) training camp and deemed him good enough to play... AND then oversaw him in training again and then chose to START him in that game at Tynecastle. To then haul him off after 34 mins when the whole team was playing mince.. AND publicly shame the guy was as unprofessional as it gets. Was DV to blame? Maybe partially so, but 80% of the problem was CL, in my opinion. Yip. I never felt his performance was bad enough to be subbed off. He had a few flicks and was trying to get into the game. I felt keena also disappeared when DV went off. Given some of the players performances that levein then continued to play week after week clearly something else happened between the 2 and levein wasnt happy. Maybe the social media posts before he arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 The same guy who knew he was coming to us in January? Finished with his previous team in November and spent the next few weeks keeping fit to make sure he was in tip top condition to hit the ground running with his new team? Or the guy that downed tools, f***** off on holiday and turned up to his first day of training about 3 stone overweight? Oh aye, massive well done to the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hector Riva said: Well done David. Said then and I stand by it now. It’s only my opinion and like everyone else, I am entitled to it. Doesn't make me right and doesn't make me wrong. Same with DS, I thought he was pish others are brokenhearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Shocking man management from Levein. Still cringe when I think about it. 51 minutes ago, Mollo said: Shocking treatment by an inept manager Folk can criticise DVs fitness if they like, no problem. But Levein oversaw him on the Spain (?) training camp and deemed him good enough to play... AND then oversaw him in training again and then chose to START him in that game at Tynecastle. To then haul him off after 34 mins when the whole team was playing mince.. AND publicly shame the guy was as unprofessional as it gets. Was DV to blame? Maybe partially so, but 80% of the problem was CL, in my opinion. Just one of many ways in which CL's management of people was catastrophic. Mitchell at full back when Garrucio was a better player. Bozanic in for a game or two then dumped. Tinkering with line-ups and tactics so that players never had a settled spell. Ammankwa as sub for Naysmith at Murrayfield when Callum Morrison was on the bench. Morrison never recovered his form after that. Edited June 28, 2020 by upgotheheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Smoked-Glass said: What about Phil stamp He looked like he'd eaten Phil Stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Waited 4 months for this guy to come and save our season. Didn't. Got rid. A sad tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) He had just finished a season. He was entitled to have a holiday and then be treated to preseason training and match fitness practice matches. Not treated like shite because he wasn't good to go 2 months later. FFS. And why play him if he was out of shape and not match ready? CL likes to blame ever ***** else for his failures. Any other ***** would've drilled him til he spewed. And then played him after gradually bringing him up to the pace of Scottish football. And another thing, he was a young guy in a foreign country. His welcoming of making him look small was classy, Craig, just classy. Edited June 28, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schillaci Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mollo said: Shocking treatment by an inept manager Folk can criticise DVs fitness if they like, no problem. But Levein oversaw him on the Spain (?) training camp and deemed him good enough to play... AND then oversaw him in training again and then chose to START him in that game at Tynecastle. To then haul him off after 34 mins when the whole team was playing mince.. AND publicly shame the guy was as unprofessional as it gets. Was DV to blame? Maybe partially so, but 80% of the problem was CL, in my opinion. A more powerful way to deal with this would have been to take the blame himself for the performance and fitness levels, but then quietly and effectively correct things in training. He got the best out I'd some, but discarded too many. Perhaps he lacked judgement on players, perhaps he lacked courage to invest personally in borderline players. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, schillaci said: A more powerful way to deal with this would have been to take the blame himself for the performance and fitness levels, but then quietly and effectively correct things in training. He got the best out I'd some, but discarded too many. Perhaps he lacked judgement on players, perhaps he lacked courage to invest personally in borderline players. Who knows? Do as I say, or else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 He was just a big lad. Who had maybe been hitting the gym too hard without enough cardio (having followed him on insta) I dont buy the fat thing. Slightly unfit, maybe? But it was just the trendy thing to latch on to after levein said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Levein treated him disgracefully. He was never given a fair crack at it and then scapegoated. Mind you, DV is probably lucky he got out and is the one that will be playing in Europe next season. Where as CL will probably never work again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Who actually cares, much more serious stuff going on to be bothered with this guff. Never seen a senior pro sweat as much playing for the 20s in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessjambo67 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Have been following the results of puskas academy over the last few month since our David was released. I’m glad he has scored a few goals don’t suppose we will know how it could have been . Hungarian league looks poor attendances from what I can see are just as bad think he has found his level . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Paolo said: Yes. But idiot Levein said he was overweight and unfit, but for some reason, still picked him to play. True but that was pretty obviously to show us that he was in a poor state. I think I'd have done the same as we were crying out for a striker at that time and there was a lot of excitement on here about him... Vanacek was an unprofessional teewat, even conceded it himself. Probably thought he could stroll it in Scotland and ended up blowing out his erchie after 10 mins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 He wasnt fat ffs. Maybe lacked in cardio fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, rudiatemyhamster said: He did have a flourish at Tynecastle (culminating in a Scotland cap). I don’t think he was ever happy though. McSwegan was absolutely pish imo. Actually getting a Scotland cap is a total riddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 He wasn't the Messiah just a rather naughty boy. Another Stormer from our recruitment team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 12 hours ago, rudiatemyhamster said: Mind Gary McSweggan - went through a fat phase, lost weight got a six pack then a crap phase Another player who Levein ostracised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normando Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 He could have been out on a training programme and knocked into shape rather than thrown under a bus shocking management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Alan_R said: He was just a big lad. Who had maybe been hitting the gym too hard without enough cardio (having followed him on insta) I dont buy the fat thing. Slightly unfit, maybe? But it was just the trendy thing to latch on to after levein said it. Not any bigger than Steve Fulton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Never mind whether he was fat or not, he looked absolutely hopeless when he played. Even against Auchinleck he looked out of his depth. Last time we played a Hungarian team in Europe (who'd finished 2nd in their league) we beat them with ease. IIRC their best player was, funnily enough, a chubby midfielder with questionable fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) Leaving aside the questions of Vanecek's fitness level and whether or not he was overweight, and also the manner in which Levein handled this, it was obvious that DV was not the "target-man" striker, who would win everything in the air due to his size and aggression, that Levein wanted and presumably thought he had signed*. Watching him play, it was clear he wanted service to feet, or at least chest-height or below, rather than having long, high, balls lumped at him to go and win in the air**. In retrospect, another sign that Levein was losing / had lost his managerial mojo... (*In other words, another Sandy Clarke or Kevin Kyle.) (**See also Abiola Dauda, Juanma, and Bjorn Johnsen.) Edited June 28, 2020 by Auld Reekin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 15 hours ago, braveheart said: Ill fated time at tynecastle but qualified tonight for next season's uefa cup with his team puskas academy.think he scored about a dozen goals for them. Unfortunately he got a bad dose of ‘Levein Flu’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, normando said: He could have been out on a training programme and knocked into shape rather than thrown under a bus shocking management. nailed it! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Treated us with zero respect. Turned up completely unfit and never bothered his arse in training. Waster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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