Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Good answer. Nothing to with why a team has little or no minorities in 2020, and whether it’s an extension of the community as a whole in the light of an racist incident. Burnley has a 12% minority population, about average for the U.K. as a whole, yet only one black player and two of mixed race. A coincidence or a specific policy by a manager that continually moans about divers and cheats, usually foreign players. Is the signing policy because of this? FFS you're on a roll. Now Sean Dyche is a racist. You are like a cartoon character Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: FFS you're on a roll. Now Sean Dyche is a racist. You are like a cartoon character Do people realise when they quote minority percentage, that most Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, and West Indian folk prefer Cricket to football. He's lost the plot, he thinks all white people are racists and should be ashamed to be white. Quote
Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Do people realise when they quote minority percentage, that most Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, and West Indian folk prefer Cricket to football. He's lost the plot, he thinks all white people are racists and should be ashamed to be white. It seems so. Call someone an arse on here and get a ban but freely throw the racist slur at posters and now public figures and nothing happens. Maybe the mods are all ANTIFA Quote
John Findlay Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Great post, I met Alicia in Glasgow at the Rise launch a few years back, she gave a rousing speech and got a standing ovation from around 400 folk, apart from the current leader of the Scottish Socialist party. The movement they started has moved on and represents so much more now as it has grown. Marx theory is that capitalism will burn itself out, is this what we’re seeing all around the world? I hope so. You will be hoping until you draw your last breath. Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: It seems so. Call someone an arse on here and get a ban but freely throw the racist slur at posters and now public figures and nothing happens. Maybe the mods are all ANTIFA That's a shocking post, about the Burnley club. Edited June 23, 2020 by ri Alban Quote
Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, weehammy said: ‘Flies lives matter‘, said the Mrs as I pulverised one with my rolled up copy of the Socialist Worker! Not if it was a green fly. Only certain colours of flies matter. Quote
Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: That's a shocking post, about the Burnley club. I think he's dying to get his leg over with a girl/person of colour and he's trying to prove something. No rational person thinks the way he does. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Do people realise when they quote minority percentage, that most Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, and West Indian folk prefer Cricket to football. He's lost the plot, he thinks all white people are racists and should be ashamed to be white. Pardin the fruity language but he's very accurate. Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Pardin the fruity language but he's very accurate. 👍 There's a John Cleese piece where he talks about extremists from both the right and left. It's bang on. Folk looking for people to hate and blame. A Honky tax 🤣 Edited June 23, 2020 by ri Alban Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: FFS you're on a roll. Now Sean Dyche is a racist. You are like a cartoon character If that’s what you take from it I wouldn’t argue. Quote
Stendelsarmy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Dallas Green said: Of course white people have been subject to police brutality. The issue is that people who are not white are at a higher risk of it. If a black dude is waiting outside a building by himself he is much more likely to be accosted by the police than a white dude. It happens in Scotland. It is systemic racism. Well I mean that's just made up Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, John Findlay said: You will be hoping until you draw your last breath. Probably, it will happen though. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, ri Alban said: That's a fecking scandalous post. Is it, any thoughts on why they have such a non diverse squad? Report it, a post about concentration camps for terrorists is still up. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stendelsarmy said: Well I mean that's just made up https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/black-bank-manager-wrongly-arrested-dale-semper-sue-met-police-racial-profiling Quote
Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Pardin the fruity language but he's very accurate. God that's good. And bang on the money. Quote
William H. Bonney Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Do people realise when they quote minority percentage, that most Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, and West Indian folk prefer Cricket to football. He's lost the plot, he thinks all white people are racists and should be ashamed to be white. Im ashamed to be white. Only because I’ve got a tiny cock. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Ron Burgundy said: God that's good. And bang on the money. Painfully accurate for some on here😅 No doubt he'll be denounced as a right wing racist masquerading as a Democrat. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Do people realise when they quote minority percentage, that most Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, and West Indian folk prefer Cricket to football. He's lost the plot, he thinks all white people are racists and should be ashamed to be white. Not quite, around 33% of squads have BAME players, they have 10%. I’m sure there’s a good reason. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273603043_Professional_football_squads_as_multicultural_teams_Cultural_diversity_intercultural_experience_and_team_performance Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Furious Styles said: Im ashamed to be white. Only because I’ve got a tiny cock. Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Not quite, around 33% of squads have BAME players, they have 10%. I’m sure there’s a good reason. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273603043_Professional_football_squads_as_multicultural_teams_Cultural_diversity_intercultural_experience_and_team_performance Bame or black? Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: I think he's dying to get his leg over with a girl/person of colour and he's trying to prove something. No rational person thinks the way he does. Yeah that’s me 🙈 Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Bame or black? Both. Quote
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I’m still wondering why Burnley have only one Black player in a squad of over 30 and how diverse the place is in general. Presumably you don't believe that in the multi million pound world of the EPL, the Burnley team should consist of local lads? Were you as equally concerned when Arsenal didn't have a single English player in their starting 11? Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Furious Styles said: Im ashamed to be white. Only because I’ve got a tiny cock. I must be the exception then rather than the rule. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Bame or black? 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Both. How many Pakistani or Indian players has Nuno Espírito Santo played? Is he racist? Quote
Taffin Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Dawnrazor said: How many Pakistani or Indian players has Nuno Espírito Santo played? Is he racist? It is a bit odd that Burnley stand out in that regard. There's a whole host of reasons it could be for though. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Presumably you don't believe that in the multi million pound world of the EPL, the Burnley team should consist of local lads? Were you as equally concerned when Arsenal didn't have a single English player in their starting 11? Are they local lads? They have a lot of English players, the point is they’re all white. I’m wondering what the reason is, it’s unusual in this day and age. I wasn’t concerned when Arsenal did it, or Hearts or the uglies. I knew the reason why. Jusr checked Jay Rodriguez is the only player from Burnley. Edited June 23, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: How many Pakistani or Indian players has Nuno Espírito Santo played? Is he racist? You’ve missed the point, as usual. Edited June 23, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Your missing the point, as ever. Your avoiding the point, as ever. Quote
moogsy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/black-bank-manager-wrongly-arrested-dale-semper-sue-met-police-racial-profiling What has an incident in London got to do with policing in Scotland? Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Both. 7 people in ever 1000 in Scotland are black, 33 in every 1000 are Asian. The Pakistani /Indian communities play cricket. So what are you expecting to see in Scotland? It's not systemic racism in this country, and it's fecking disgraceful that you paint every white person in this country as racist. The poor in Scotland are white, the drug addicts are white, the alkies are white. Let's concentrate on this and make equality for everyone without making others feel ashamed of themselves, just to make you feel better about yourself. Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Taffin said: It is a bit odd that Burnley stand out in that regard. There's a whole host of reasons it could be for though. It’s probably a shite hole. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, moogsy said: What has an incident in London got to do with policing in Scotland? He said it wasn’t true that a black guy in the U.K. wasn’t more likely to be arrested than a white guy. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: It’s probably a shite hole. Like everywhere, it's got it's good bits and bad. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Your avoiding the point, as ever. I started the conversation how can I be avoiding it? Wolves squad is multicultural and diverse. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: I started the conversation how can I be avoiding it? Wolves squad is multicultural and diverse. But how many Pakistani or Indian was what I asked. Quote
ri Alban Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Is it, any thoughts on why they have such a non diverse squad? Report it, a post about concentration camps for terrorists is still up. You need to calm yer jets. Pathetic! Quote
Taffin Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: It’s probably a shite hole. It is, but it isn't unique in that sense. Look how many BAME players play in Scotland Quote
Stendelsarmy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/black-bank-manager-wrongly-arrested-dale-semper-sue-met-police-racial-profiling I can't get by the pay wall. But from what I can gather you're claiming there's systemic racism in Police Scotland based on a guy suing the Met Police for alleged racial profiling. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Stendelsarmy said: I But from what I can gather you're claiming there's systemic racism in Police Scotland based on a guy suing the Met Police for alleged racial profiling. He is. Quote
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: 7 people in ever 1000 in Scotland are black, 33 in every 1000 are Asian. The Pakistani /Indian communities play cricket. So what are you expecting to see in Scotland? It's not systemic racism in this country, and it's fecking disgraceful that you paint every white person in this country as racist. The poor in Scotland are white, the drug addicts are white, the alkies are white. Let's concentrate on this and make equality for everyone without making others feel ashamed of themselves, just to make you feel better about yourself. Equality will never happen RI. Nor should it. Equality of opportunity is the important measure. Not everyone wants to or is capable of becoming a brain surgeon or teacher or fireman. As long as it's only ability, intelligence or desire that's holding them back then fine. If it's any other reason then that's wrong. Quote
Taffin Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Stendelsarmy said: I can't get by the pay wall. But from what I can gather you're claiming there's systemic racism in Police Scotland based on a guy suing the Met Police for alleged racial profiling. There's no pay wall. It's the Guardian. Quote
moogsy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He said it wasn’t true that a black guy in the U.K. wasn’t more likely to be arrested than a white guy. No, that quote specifically referring to Scotland. I’m always amazed by folk that have no clue regarding policing policies or operational practices in Scotland yet seem to be desperate to equivocate Scottish police with their US counterparts. Edited June 23, 2020 by moogsy Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: 7 people in ever 1000 in Scotland are black, 33 in every 1000 are Asian. The Pakistani /Indian communities play cricket. So what are you expecting to see in Scotland? It's not systemic racism in this country, and it's fecking disgraceful that you paint every white person in this country as racist. The poor in Scotland are white, the drug addicts are white, the alkies are white. Let's concentrate on this and make equality for everyone without making others feel ashamed of themselves, just to make you feel better about yourself. Burnley is in England last time I looked, who mentioned Scotland? I am concentrating on all these things as I do what I can to help folk change their mind and vote for independence. Showing that this is a country that welcomes folk from anywhere and embraces other cultures is part of that. At no point have I said or indicated that every white personnel is racist, that’s in your mind and you know why don’t you? Quote
Stendelsarmy Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Taffin said: There's no pay wall. It's the Guardian. Ok then I can't be arsed signing up Quote
John Findlay Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Probably, it will happen though. Haha, not even when there was an Iron curtain. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stendelsarmy said: I can't get by the pay wall. But from what I can gather you're claiming there's systemic racism in Police Scotland based on a guy suing the Met Police for alleged racial profiling. I thought you were discussing how black guys are more likely to be arrested, that’s what you were disputing. Are the police in Scotland systemically racist, hard to say really. Quote
Taffin Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stendelsarmy said: Ok then I can't be arsed signing up You don't need to. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stendelsarmy said: Ok then I can't be arsed signing up All you have to is agree or disagree to the cookies ffs 🙈 Quote
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, weehammy said: Ah the Guardian! Quality paper that published an editorial describing the Cameron family’s grief at the death of their disabled son as, ‘privileged pain’. (Before hastily withdrawing the piece!) The Star has better journalism. It’s all over the press ffs.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-53019214 https://news.sky.com/story/simeon-francis-police-referred-to-watchdog-over-video-of-man-saying-i-cant-breathe-during-arrest-12010907 https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/08/investigation-launched-death-man-custody-torquay-police-station-12822618/ Quote
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