Jodami Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I think the club will sell games online with maybe a discount to season ticket holders. This would also generate more cash in the short term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scott herbertson Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, JALBO said: Lunchtime Dot Count today: Total seats apparently available for season ticket sale: 14,646 Seats left in Wheatfield: 1,170 Seats left in Main: 1,179 Seats left in Gorgie: 629 Available seats apparently sold: 11,668 This doesn't include wheelchair/personal assistant season ticket sales, nor do we have any hospitality season passes (yet?) that we can factor in. It's a great effort. Yes Jalbo - a great effort by you to count that many dots 🙂 Seriously, well done mate and 11,668 is pretty sensational IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, JALBO said: Lunchtime Dot Count today: Total seats apparently available for season ticket sale: 14,646 Seats left in Wheatfield: 1,170 Seats left in Main: 1,179 Seats left in Gorgie: 629 Available seats apparently sold: 11,668 This doesn't include wheelchair/personal assistant season ticket sales, nor do we have any hospitality season passes (yet?) that we can factor in. It's a great effort. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hector Riva Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 How are we doing now. 12000? Can't be far off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 02/09/2020 at 16:05, Jodami said: I think the club will sell games online with maybe a discount to season ticket holders. This would also generate more cash in the short term. Why not free to ST holders? We have already paid for seats that many of us will never get our bums in this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jodami Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: Why not free to ST holders? We have already paid for seats that many of us will never get our bums in this season. Because it looks like the season ticket guarantees actual physical attendance and those games will be rolled over until that time. That is an honourable and fair approach imo. One issue among several with not doing that and offering free coverage instead is households that have multiple season ticket holders will be paying a small fortune for one game. That is more likely to impact on people deciding to renew in the future in an economy that may be very bleak. Selling the games online in some way is probably the cleanest solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartsofgold Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: Why not free to ST holders? We have already paid for seats that many of us will never get our bums in this season. It had BETTER be this or I will be a very unhappy bunny. I've paid for 3 season tickets for my house and expect to get live streaming from ALL the games played at Tynecastle in the league as part of those tickets at no extra cost to myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jodami said: Because it looks like the season ticket guarantees actual physical attendance and those games will be rolled over until that time. That is an honourable and fair approach imo. One issue among several with not doing that and offering free coverage instead is households that have multiple season ticket holders will be paying a small fortune for one game. That is more likely to impact on people deciding to renew in the future in an economy that may be very bleak. Selling the games online in some way is probably the cleanest solution. 4 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: It had BETTER be this or I will be a very unhappy bunny. I've paid for 3 season tickets for my house and expect to get live streaming from ALL the games played at Tynecastle in the league as part of those tickets at no extra cost to myself. as they say, you can’t please all the people all the time. 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tatlock Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Personally, I’m in the “didn’t expect to get to a game” camp, but, just as I bought the Vlad shares to keep the club going and the FoH regular donation, I just want the club to survive. Won’t ask for refund and happy to buy for next again season. Once the moneys paid it’s forgotten for me. I’m not really well off but don’t have a lot of outgoings now I’m retired and I am passionate about hearts. I can’t imagine a world without HMFC and wouldn’t want to be part of the reason if we went bust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingantti1874 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tatlock said: Personally, I’m in the “didn’t expect to get to a game” camp, but, just as I bought the Vlad shares to keep the club going and the FoH regular donation, I just want the club to survive. Won’t ask for refund and happy to buy for next again season. Once the moneys paid it’s forgotten for me. I’m not really well off but don’t have a lot of outgoings now I’m retired and I am passionate about hearts. I can’t imagine a world without HMFC and wouldn’t want to be part of the reason if we went bust. this for me. Though I’m still pissed at the £1k that went straight into vlad’s pocket .. 😆 Hope I get to go, nothing more than hope tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lido Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tatlock said: Personally, I’m in the “didn’t expect to get to a game” camp, but, just as I bought the Vlad shares to keep the club going and the FoH regular donation, I just want the club to survive. Won’t ask for refund and happy to buy for next again season. Once the moneys paid it’s forgotten for me. I’m not really well off but don’t have a lot of outgoings now I’m retired and I am passionate about hearts. I can’t imagine a world without HMFC and wouldn’t want to be part of the reason if we went bust. I'm with you here. I won't be asking for a refund either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: this for me. Though I’m still pissed at the £1k that went straight into vlad’s pocket .. 😆 Hope I get to go, nothing more than hope tho It saved the club and we now have individual shareholder rights, thanks to Budge honouring them. I have no regrets about buying my shares, even though they have zero monetary value. I’d do it again. Agree with your post completely though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maroonedinbriz Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: It saved the club and we now have individual shareholder rights, thanks to Budge honouring them. I have no regrets about buying my shares, even though they have zero monetary value. I’d do it again. Agree with your post completely though. Does any body know how much my £500 investment has accrued? After all these years I must be worth a fortune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, maroonedinbriz said: Does any body know how much my £500 investment has accrued? After all these years I must be worth a fortune. https://equiniti.com/uk/contact-us/shareholder-enquiries/ You will find answers to your questions here. 👆 Just don’t expect a yacht! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: It saved the club and we now have individual shareholder rights, thanks to Budge honouring them. I have no regrets about buying my shares, even though they have zero monetary value. I’d do it again. Agree with your post completely though. I bought shares then too. I think the people who did played an important part in terms of the message it sent potential buyers/saviours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I bought shares then too. I think the people who did played an important part in terms of the message it sent potential buyers/saviours. I’m sure Jackson and Budge both said that the money saved the club by keeping it going until the FoH got things up and running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bighenry Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 What a club. Simply the most loyal fans on the planet! Absolutely phenomenal 🇱🇻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I bought shares then too. I think the people who did played an important part in terms of the message it sent potential buyers/saviours. It’s guys like you that have kept the club alive over the years Torque. 👏👏👏. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 My St is bought for, money gone. If I don't get to games I won't ask for a refund. The TV issue is trickier, but again if not at a game I'd pay the £10/£15, Tbh I would spend double that on transport, a few pints and food so even paying for the thr game and not getting t a game I'd be technically better off than going. Also warmer and dryer, I just want us to play again and to see us play on tv or live I don't care, but the boos are a bit lost on the tv😜 If I had a dd set up and things were tight I can understand cancelling it or asking for a refund, but if it was paid outright, for me the money is gone, not to be seen again and if it helps Hearts get through this I'm not fussed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Fox Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Beast Boy said: It saved the club and we now have individual shareholder rights, thanks to Budge honouring them. I have no regrets about buying my shares, even though they have zero monetary value. I’d do it again. Agree with your post completely though. Of course they (original shares and the second tranch) have a value including voting rights. Will you receive a dividend soon, probably not! Will somebody buy them from you in the future, possibly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: Of course they (original shares and the second tranch) have a value including voting rights. Will you receive a dividend soon, probably not! Will somebody buy them from you in the future, possibly! I’ll not be selling. They are symbolic to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: Of course they (original shares and the second tranch) have a value including voting rights. Will you receive a dividend soon, probably not! Will somebody buy them from you in the future, possibly! I doubt Hearts have paid a dividend for a long long time, if ever. 😄 for us supporters it was an emotional investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Fox Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: I’ll not be selling. They are symbolic to me. And neither will I or most other supporters! I have X2 certificates and get X2 AGM invites, annual accounts etc, must be a way to consolidate them into one. Thought EQ might proactively drive that. Edited September 10, 2020 by Jambo-Fox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SMJ_1874 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 hours ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: Why not free to ST holders? We have already paid for seats that many of us will never get our bums in this season. Was talking to someone in the club yesterday about advertising and asked the question wether we’ll be allowed back in and how do they decide if there’s only 25% capacity allowed? I also asked about Hearts tv and games being streamed live and was told it was free to all ST holders 3 hours ago, Tatlock said: Personally, I’m in the “didn’t expect to get to a game” camp, but, just as I bought the Vlad shares to keep the club going and the FoH regular donation, I just want the club to survive. Won’t ask for refund and happy to buy for next again season. Once the moneys paid it’s forgotten for me. I’m not really well off but don’t have a lot of outgoings now I’m retired and I am passionate about hearts. I can’t imagine a world without HMFC and wouldn’t want to be part of the reason if we went bust. Great post mate, well done. I’m sure the majority feel the same. I renewed my 3 ST’s knowing full well I won’t see a game this year. It’ll probably be well into next year and that’s just a remote chance for only some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Fox Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I doubt Hearts have paid a dividend for a long long time, if ever. 😄 for us supporters it was an emotional investment. Who need dividends when you get loyalty points! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo-Fox said: And neither will I or most other supporters! I have X2 certificates and get X2 AGM invites, annual accounts etc, must be a way to consolidate then into one. Thought EQ might proactively drive that. There is. I was in the same boat. I bought shares twice (£1000 and £500) and they took two slightly different names each time. I got in touch with this lot: https://equiniti.com/uk/contact-us/shareholder-enquiries/ ... and they sorted it all out for me. Now I just get one of everything. Quick and easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: Who need dividends when you get loyalty points! That stopped a few seasons back. Was nice while it lasted though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Fox Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: That stopped a few seasons back. Was nice while it lasted though. Not for me 😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo-Fox Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: There is. I was in the same boat. I bought shares twice (£1000 and £500) and they took two slightly different names each time. I got in touch with this lot: https://equiniti.com/uk/contact-us/shareholder-enquiries/ ... and they sorted it all out for me. Now I just get one of everything. Quick and easy. That’s right but EQ don’t drive that! (NB EQ is a business abbreviation for Equiniti) If they (EQ) made consolidation of shares easier it would deliver lower administration costs for Hearts. However maybe I’ll proactively drive that myself to save Hearts money, another contribution that I can make! Edited September 10, 2020 by Jambo-Fox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Boy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: That’s right but EQ don’t drive that! (NB EQ is a business abbreviation for Equiniti) If they (EQ) made consolidation of shares easier it would deliver lower administration costs for Hearts. However maybe I’ll proactively drove that myself to save Hearts money, another contribution that I can make! I wanted them to change my address and consolidate my shares. Took one email, maybe two. Was a piece of piss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pablo Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 If there's a possibility of home games being given to season ticket holders to watch at home, that would be so good. I'd absolutely love it If not, just have my candy if it helps HMFC exist. Nothing expected in return. That will always be enough for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joondalupjambo Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) I just upgraded from the Gorgie to the Main so another 90 quid to help the club. Do not expect to get to a game but hey ho survival is key here so happy to do it. As for TV access if there was an option to pay a tenner a game say would be happy to do that as well regardless of having the ST. Appreciate not everyone in the same boat though. Edited September 10, 2020 by joondalupjambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, pablo said: If there's a possibility of home games being given to season ticket holders to watch at home, that would be so good. I'd absolutely love it If not, just have my candy if it helps HMFC exist. Nothing expected in return. That will always be enough for me. Ask not what you can do for your club - the supporters have been doing plenty for years, as comments above show. Ask what the club can do for you - I think that a free TV link to games for ST holders would be a good gesture, and cost the club little or nothing. As others have said, if I do not set foot in Tynecastle this season I will not be looking for my £450 back. Edited September 11, 2020 by King Of The Cat Cafe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Rob Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I bought STs last time we were in trouble. Haven’t done it this time (highly unlikely to make it to any games even if they let fans in) but I’d almost certainly spring for some pay for view fixtures if they were to stream them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimbojambo Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 10/09/2020 at 19:56, ToqueJambo said: I bought shares then too. I think the people who did played an important part in terms of the message it sent potential buyers/saviours. On a side issue will it be possible to buy shares once we are fan owned as presumably a minority of shares will remain in private possession? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, jimbojambo said: On a side issue will it be possible to buy shares once we are fan owned as presumably a minority of shares will remain in private possession? Private sales will still be able to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimbojambo Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Private sales will still be able to happen. Any idea where they may be sold Dave? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jimbojambo said: Any idea where they may be sold Dave? All done by individuals on their own. The Shareholders association may be able to help you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think Hearts should award loyalty points to ST holders who refuse to attend away games on principle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grinder Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 What's the latest dot count at now?🇱🇻❤🇱🇻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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