soonbe110 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Redhelen said: I know our u23s coach has been doing video analysis with the players on their last games. I would be very surprised if Daniel wasnt doing some sort of work. He is in Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Fair ****s to the guy. Obviously salt of the earth. I really don’t want to bring Levein/McPhee into this but the contrast is pathetic. What contrast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Everyone will have their own opinion of DS as a manager, but everyone must agree that this is a truly top class human being Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: What contrast? Them hanging around the club taking cash for doing nothing of any value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, SkabalaJam said: Levein should do similar and cancel contract. He will have built up enough to keep him going. Now 55 some can access his pension. How do you know he hasn't? If he announced it publicly, can you imagine the crap he'll get? DS's making it public is right and proper but for CL to do the same would lead to all sorts of bitter "I should think so" comments. So, if he has, better just done and less said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Them hanging around the club taking cash for doing nothing of any value So you KNOW CL is still taking his money? See above post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, westbow said: Rudyard Kipling. Also makes exceedingly good cakes. Cheers !😋 Can't recall where I've seen that but I have seen it somewhere. Maybe the jungle book🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: Why so? The reason is he was dropped into the eye of a total shitstorm that had been created by a poor manager and incompetent owner,only given 6 months to do imo an impossible job to rejuvenate a squad of players who due to the previous manager their morale was rock bottom. A new manager needs at least 2 or 3 transfer windows to bring in his own players and mould his team the way he wants to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: The reason is he was dropped into the eye of a total shitstorm that had been created by a poor manager and incompetent owner,only given 6 months to do imo an impossible job to rejuvenate a squad of players who due to the previous manager their morale was rock bottom. A new manager needs at least 2 or 3 transfer windows to bring in his own players and mould his team the way he wants to play. I agree about what he came into. Complete mess and Budge will ultimately pay a high price Look at the quality of clubs and respective resources of those we have consistently fell below over the last 18 months. Stendel has made very little difference if truth be told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: I agree about what he came into. Complete mess and Budge will ultimately pay a high price Look at the quality of clubs and respective resources of those we have consistently fell below over the last 18 months. Stendel has made very little difference if truth be told Performances against Aberdeen, Sevco twice, Hibs shows that the players have it in them. Same players, same formation, crap against "wee" teams! So, whose fault is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: I agree about what he came into. Complete mess and Budge will ultimately pay a high price Look at the quality of clubs and respective resources of those we have consistently fell below over the last 18 months. Stendel has made very little difference if truth be told Players attitude,I'm sure stendel's attitude will never change week in week out.The players however...need to be questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: Good chance to reinstall someone...? Be worth it for the seethe alone ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, colinmaroon said: Performances against Aberdeen, Sevco twice, Hibs shows that the players have it in them. Same players, same formation, crap against "wee" teams! So, whose fault is that? It's not been the same players week after week. He's chopped and changed personnel routinely. Collectively the players haven't been good enough or done enough I'm not having a pop at Stendel here just to be clear. I dont think he has made a huge amount of difference This situation is on Levein and Budge. Six months to try and finish above Hamilton with their 1500 average gate isn't the biggest miracle anyone has ever worked in football though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Be worth it for the seethe alone ... He would do it if she asked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Players attitude,I'm sure stendel's attitude will never change week in week out.The players however...need to be questioned. Players do need to be questioned. Results since Stendel arrived are broadly commensurate with average points per game over last 18 months. Consistently and sustained garbage Place needs gutted from top to bottom. Stendel's January signings have added nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: He is in Germany I know he is. And our u23s coach isnt with them. Its being done through skype or whatever As I say, I'd be surprised if Daniel isnt working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: The reason is he was dropped into the eye of a total shitstorm that had been created by a poor manager and incompetent owner,only given 6 months to do imo an impossible job to rejuvenate a squad of players who due to the previous manager their morale was rock bottom. A new manager needs at least 2 or 3 transfer windows to bring in his own players and mould his team the way he wants to play. Stendel was sacked by his previous two clubs, he will likely leave Hearts with us in the Scottish Championship. Levein on the other hand was headhunted by Hearts, Leicester and Scotland whilst already employed at other clubs. 8 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: Performances against Aberdeen, Sevco twice, Hibs shows that the players have it in them. Same players, same formation, crap against "wee" teams! So, whose fault is that? Stendel’s tactics clearly don’t work against the ‘wee teams’, apart from the actual wee team. That is why we haven’t won against any bottom six side since his arrival, yet have managed to beat Rangers twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Stendel was sacked by his previous two clubs, he will likely leave Hearts with us in the Scottish Championship. Levein on the other hand was headhunted by Hearts, Leicester and Scotland whilst already employed at other clubs. Stendel’s tactics clearly don’t work against the ‘wee teams’, apart from the actual wee team. That is why we haven’t won against any bottom six side since his arrival, yet have managed to beat Rangers twice. Which is one more than Levein has achieved against them in his managerial career Levein is also a confirmed out and out loser 👍 Edited March 20, 2020 by East Lothian Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Stendel was sacked by his previous two clubs, he will likely leave Hearts with us in the Scottish Championship. Levein on the other hand was headhunted by Hearts, Leicester and Scotland whilst already employed at other clubs. Stendel’s tactics clearly don’t work against the ‘wee teams’, apart from the actual wee team. That is why we haven’t won against any bottom six side since his arrival, yet have managed to beat Rangers twice. 😀 Unbelievable You make reference to Stendel being sacked by his last 2 clubs then mention that Levein was headhunted by Hearts, Scotland and Leicester Then fail to mention that the same 3 sacked him for poor performance Your a comedian 👍 Edited March 20, 2020 by Hearts1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Stendel was sacked by his previous two clubs, he will likely leave Hearts with us in the Scottish Championship. Levein on the other hand was headhunted by Hearts, Leicester and Scotland whilst already employed at other clubs. Stendel’s tactics clearly don’t work against the ‘wee teams’, apart from the actual wee team. That is why we haven’t won against any bottom six side since his arrival, yet have managed to beat Rangers twice. So it's down to stendel we are going to end up in the championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: Which is one more than Levein has achieved against them in his managerial career Levein is also a confirmed out and out loser 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: So it's down to stendel we are going to end up in the championship? He takes a fair slice of the blame. To date he has had 7 games against bottom six opposition, we’ve won 0 of the matches. Obviously a lot of parties are liable for the current position the club finds itself in. We could really have done with a good January transfer window and a couple of wins against our relegation rivals. Stendel’s provides neither. 10 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: 😀 Unbelievable You make reference to Stendel being sacked by his last 2 clubs then mention that Levein was headhunted by Hearts, Scotland and Leicester Then fail to mention that the same 3 sacked him for poor performance Your a comedian 👍 ‘You’re a comedian’, would make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: So you KNOW CL is still taking his money? See above post! Levein was sacked in November. It’s now March. He’s been sat around coining it and turning up after lunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: He takes a fair slice of the blame. To date he has had 7 games against bottom six opposition, we’ve won 0 of the matches. Obviously a lot of parties are liable for the current position the club finds itself in. We could really have done with a good January transfer window and a couple of wins against our relegation rivals. Stendel’s provides neither. ‘You’re a comedian’, would make more sense. Fair play. Appreciate the correction. Point still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, The Treasurer said: Everyone will have their own opinion of DS as a manager, but everyone must agree that this is a truly top class human being Well said 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: He takes a fair slice of the blame. To date he has had 7 games against bottom six opposition, we’ve won 0 of the matches. Obviously a lot of parties are liable for the current position the club finds itself in. We could really have done with a good January transfer window and a couple of wins against our relegation rivals. Stendel’s provides neither. ‘You’re a comedian’, would make more sense. You must be at the wind up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: So you KNOW CL is still taking his money? See above post! Why wouldn't he announce it and why would the club not want to. Pour encourager les autres as they say. Well done Daniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: You must be at the wind up Which part do you disagree with? Hardly unreasonable for Stendel to have a better than 0% win rate against bottom six clubs. Hardly unreasonable for one of his three signings to have made a telling contribution. Edited March 20, 2020 by Mr Elwood P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Francis Albert said: Why wouldn't he announce it and why would the club not want to. Pour encourager les autres as they say. Well done Daniel. It’s very odd stuff. People asking how they know CL/AM are taking pay. The club would announce it straight away. Would be a great bit of PR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Which part do you disagree with? Hardly unreasonable for Stendel to have a better than 0% win rate against bottom six clubs. Hardly unreasonable for one of his three signings to have made a telling contribution. I agree with all of that I sense however that you a staunch supporter of Levein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKERITE Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 How does a thread that, quite rightly, begins with praise for Daniel Stendel turn into a debate on his failure to beat the smaller teams and attacks on Levein? There are umpteen threads to discuss those subjects so let this one be to salute a fine gesture by a good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: I agree with all of that I sense however that you a staunch supporter of Levein? I was, but wouldn’t advocate him coming back. I was also very supportive of Stendel’s appointment, it doesn’t seem to have worked out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: I was, but wouldn’t advocate him coming back. I was also very supportive of Stendel’s appointment, it doesn’t seem to have worked out though. Funny how you didn’t recognise CL wasn’t working out till after he was sacked. You’re well ahead of the curve this time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Funny how you didn’t recognise CL wasn’t working out till after he was sacked. You’re well ahead of the curve this time though. Mitigating factors ... Against St Mirren we had three international strikers on the park and couldn’t manage a single goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: I was, but wouldn’t advocate him coming back. I was also very supportive of Stendel’s appointment, it doesn’t seem to have worked out though. 3 months he's been with you and not one positive comment, not even on this thread which was discussing him not taking a wage so that less well paid employees wouldnt lose out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, GinRummy said: It’s very odd stuff. People asking how they know CL/AM are taking pay. The club would announce it straight away. Would be a great bit of PR. No it wouldn't. CL is toxic to some and any mention, irrespective of sentiment would be criticised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Redhelen said: 3 months he's been with you and not one positive comment, not even on this thread which was discussing him not taking a wage so that less well paid employees wouldnt lose out. Helen, your perspective is massively impacted by the success of the 2018/19 season at Barnsley. Stendel is a top bloke and should be commended for his refusal to take a wage. He is, 2018/19 aside, a poor football manager. Our last game against St Mirren was as bad as anything we have witnessed over the last few seasons. It was an absolute must win match and the loss could potentially relegate us. He has one system which has worked against Rangers x2 and Hibs. He is however completely clueless against teams in our bottom six. That is teams with a tiny fraction of our budget. Stendel’s Heart of Midlothian F.C Epitaph Top Bloke / Wank Manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Helen, your perspective is massively impacted by the success of the 2018/19 season at Barnsley. Stendel is a top bloke and should be commended for his refusal to take a wage. He is, 2018/19 aside, a poor football manager. Our last game against St Mirren was as bad as anything we have witnessed over the last few seasons. It was an absolute must win match and the loss could potentially relegate us. He has one system which has worked against Rangers x2 and Hibs. He is however completely clueless against teams in our bottom six. That is teams with a tiny fraction of our budget. Stendel’s Heart of Midlothian F.C Epitaph Top Bloke / Wank Manager I look forward to reading what yours will be shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Helen, your perspective is massively impacted by the success of the 2018/19 season at Barnsley. Stendel is a top bloke and should be commended for his refusal to take a wage. He is, 2018/19 aside, a poor football manager. Our last game against St Mirren was as bad as anything we have witnessed over the last few seasons. It was an absolute must win match and the loss could potentially relegate us. He has one system which has worked against Rangers x2 and Hibs. He is however completely clueless against teams in our bottom six. That is teams with a tiny fraction of our budget. Stendel’s Heart of Midlothian F.C Epitaph Top Bloke / Wank Manager Wank poster 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, sac said: I look forward to reading what yours will be shortly. 2 minutes ago, kila said: Wank poster 🤷♂️ Just my opinion ... no need to get upset about it. Anyone at the St Mirren match knows we won’t stay up, if the season resumes ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Helen, your perspective is massively impacted by the success of the 2018/19 season at Barnsley. Stendel is a top bloke and should be commended for his refusal to take a wage. He is, 2018/19 aside, a poor football manager. Our last game against St Mirren was as bad as anything we have witnessed over the last few seasons. It was an absolute must win match and the loss could potentially relegate us. He has one system which has worked against Rangers x2 and Hibs. He is however completely clueless against teams in our bottom six. That is teams with a tiny fraction of our budget. Stendel’s Heart of Midlothian F.C Epitaph Top Bloke / Wank Manager Says a wank poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Just my opinion ... no need to get upset about it. Anyone at the St Mirren match knows we won’t stay up, if the season resumes ... I didn't get upset. I just stated my opinion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Says a wank poster. 6 minutes ago, kila said: Wank poster 🤷♂️ Too late ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Too late ... Belt and braces in the hope it sinks into your rather wooden bonce and you give up posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, EH11 said: No it wouldn't. CL is toxic to some and any mention, irrespective of sentiment would be criticised. I totally disagree. Anybody who had sacrificed wages in this situation would be made public imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: Belt and braces in the hope it sinks into your rather wooden bonce and you give up posting. If you eliminate the dissenting voices, you are just left with the collective chatter of Stendel love; as we slip into the abyss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Mitigating factors ... Against St Mirren we had three international strikers on the park and couldn’t manage a single goal. Excuses those were, he was a total failure as a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: If you eliminate the dissenting voices, you are just left with the collective chatter of Stendel love; as we slip into the abyss. It's an abyss I'd be happy to see you slip into sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: Excuses those were, he was a total failure as a manager. How would you describe Stendel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: It's an abyss I'd be happy to see you slip into sooner than later. Not sure how I would slip into the Scottish Championship? Happy to try anything once though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.