Holiday/flight cancellations and refunds ( title updated )

[Ray Gin]

19 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Has anyone booked with Jet2  in June?

Family flying out on 24thJune to Cyprus.

Is that wishful thinking it will happen?

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/03/nicola-sturgeon-do-not-expect-summer-holiday-year/amp/

[Samuel Camazzola]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/03/nicola-sturgeon-do-not-expect-summer-holiday-year/amp/

The article is a bit old now. 

[Ray Gin]

Just now, Samuel Camazzola said:

The article is a bit old now. 

 

The virus hasn't disappeared. There's no vaccine. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/03/nicola-sturgeon-do-not-expect-summer-holiday-year/amp/

Had to log in but the headline was enough.

[Dazo]

14 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

Tenerife hotels due to open on 1st July. Will be interesting to see what countries will be permitted to fly in though. 

I thought they were opening for Spanish only ? Think they want mainland Spanish to holiday on the Spanish islands this year to get tourism going. 

[Ray Gin]

Folk need to realise restrictions are only going to be partially lifted because there are currently enough beds available in intensive care units and people are being trusted to carry on isolating as much as possible, albeit to a slightly less harsh degree. 

 

Nobody should be expecting to go back to normal life and pack their family onto an airplane to jet off for their holidays any time soon. 

Edited May 19, 2020 by Ray Gin

[Samuel Camazzola]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

The virus hasn't disappeared. There's no vaccine. 

Just other outlets are now talking about what airlines are due to operate, what procedures are being put in place and what costs are anticipated. 

 

The travel situations are evolving so fast that today's news will be outdated by the weekend. 

[Samuel Camazzola]

2 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I thought they were opening for Spanish only ? Think they want mainland Spanish to holiday on the Spanish islands this year to get tourism going. 

Will depend on what quarantine guidelines are in place in six weeks' time.

[Nucky Thompson]

7 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

The virus hasn't disappeared. There's no vaccine. 

It hasn't disappeared, but countries are adapting to live along side it.

Economies won't stay shut until a vaccine is found

[OBE]

 

Spain has introduced a 4 phase opening schedule, only 50% of Spain is currently in phase 1. Phase 2 will only allow internal movement between it's 17 provinces.

 

50% of spain still in phase zero.

 

Loads of dosh staying in the UK, can't be a bad thing. New patio sets and BBQ's for the garden and a long hot summer maybe, can but hope eh?

[Ray Gin]

14 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

It hasn't disappeared, but countries are adapting to live along side it.

Economies won't stay shut until a vaccine is found

 

No, but lots of things will be heavily restricted with social distancing measures in place. Don't expect to be going to theatres, gigs, clubs or packed pubs any time soon. 

[inspector]

1 hour ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I don't know what levels of protection Visa Debit offers but may be worth exhausting to see if anything can be done down that route. 👍 

As has been previously mentioned , speak to your bank about the chargeback scheme.

[OBE]

6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

No, but lots of things will be heavily restricted with social distancing measures in place. Don't expect to be going to theatres, gigs, clubs or packed pubs any time soon. 

 

Maternity wards better start gearing up for the ensuing big push...

Edited May 19, 2020 by Old Blue Eyes

[Van Wilder]

8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

No, but lots of things will be heavily restricted with social distancing measures in place. Don't expect to be going to theatres, gigs, clubs or packed pubs any time soon. 

 

Really glad i work in the Entertainment industry.

 

 

[Van Wilder]

3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

https://apple.news/AghXbmxYWQeCuf2vAbfyLrA

 

Maybe some small hope of foreign travel.

 

The whole 14 days when people re-enter the country is going to stop most people travelling.

Although if they continue to let people work from home, suppose it might work out.

[OBE]

15 minutes ago, inspector said:

As has been previously mentioned , speak to your bank about the chargeback scheme.

 

The charge back scheme, where is the cash released from?

[Ray Gin]

8 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

https://apple.news/AghXbmxYWQeCuf2vAbfyLrA

 

Maybe some small hope of foreign travel.

 

Air bridges between 2 countries with a low infection rate? That rules out the UK then.

 

 

[inspector]

2 hours ago, Old Blue Eyes said:

 

The charge back scheme, where is the cash released from?

No idea. Probably the bank who will deduct it from any monies due to the company.

[The Real Maroonblood]

36 minutes ago, Barack said:

Oh, people...

 

 

 

Ffs.

[OBE]

 

2020 so far has been the pits and it just keeps on coming.

[Chaps]

Edited May 19, 2020 by Chaps

[graygo]

5 hours ago, Old Blue Eyes said:

 

The charge back scheme, where is the cash released from?

 

The bank pay you back and then reclaim it from the vendor, they do warn you that if they are unsuccessful they can ask you to repay.

It's totally discretionary whether they do it or not but I've used it in the past.

[OBE]

18 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

The bank pay you back and then reclaim it from the vendor, they do warn you that if they are unsuccessful they can ask you to repay.

It's totally discretionary whether they do it or not but I've used it in the past.

 

Thank you, if they're unsuccessful they can holiday on my vouchers.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Old Blue Eyes

[Jeff]

I never got an email from EasyJet but not trusting for a second that they weren't compromised.

 

Anyone fancy entering the darkweb and finding these details?

 

Ps https://haveibeenpwned.com/ may be interesting to some of you

[The Real Maroonblood]

16 minutes ago, Jeff said:

I never got an email from EasyJet but not trusting for a second that they weren't compromised.

 

Anyone fancy entering the darkweb and finding these details?

 

Ps https://haveibeenpwned.com/ may be interesting to some of you

Never received an email so all is good.

😁

What does the site say?

Edited May 19, 2020 by The Real Maroonblood

[milky_26]

18 minutes ago, Jeff said:

I never got an email from EasyJet but not trusting for a second that they weren't compromised.

 

Anyone fancy entering the darkweb and finding these details?

 

Ps https://haveibeenpwned.com/ may be interesting to some of you

i think easyjet only emailed those who had their credit card details taken, not those who had their email and pw conmpromised

[Jeff]

8 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Never received an email so all is good.

😁

What does the site say?

 

You enter your email and you can see if you're details have been lost in a breach

[Jeff]

5 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

i think easyjet only emailed those who had their credit card details taken, not those who had their email and pw conmpromised

 

Pretty grim if true. Shows the important of multiple passwords

[milky_26]

5 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

Pretty grim if true. Shows the important of multiple passwords

or at least regular pw changes

[The Real Maroonblood]

5 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

You enter your email and you can see if you're details have been lost in a breach

I'll use another device in case porn appears 

[Jeff]

Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

I'll use another device in case porn appears 

 

Have I Been Pwned? (HIBP, with "Pwned" pronounced like "poned,"^[2] and alternatively written with the capitalization 'have i been pwned?') is a website that allows internet users to check whether their personal data has been compromised by data breaches. The service collects and analyzes hundreds of database dumps and pastes containing information about billions of leaked accounts, and allows users to search for their own information by entering their username or email address. Users can also sign up to be notified if their email address appears in future dumps. The site has been widely touted as a valuable resource for internet users wishing to protect their own security and privacy.^[3][4] Have I Been Pwned? was created by security expert Troy Hunt on 4 December 2013.

As of June 2019, Have I Been Pwned? averages around one hundred and sixty thousand daily visitors, the site has nearly three million active email subscribers and contains records of almost eight billion accounts.^[5]

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

Have I Been Pwned? (HIBP, with "Pwned" pronounced like "poned,"^[2] and alternatively written with the capitalization 'have i been pwned?') is a website that allows internet users to check whether their personal data has been compromised by data breaches. The service collects and analyzes hundreds of database dumps and pastes containing information about billions of leaked accounts, and allows users to search for their own information by entering their username or email address. Users can also sign up to be notified if their email address appears in future dumps. The site has been widely touted as a valuable resource for internet users wishing to protect their own security and privacy.^[3][4] Have I Been Pwned? was created by security expert Troy Hunt on 4 December 2013.

As of June 2019, Have I Been Pwned? averages around one hundred and sixty thousand daily visitors, the site has nearly three million active email subscribers and contains records of almost eight billion accounts.^[5]

Thanks for that Jeff. 

Put in two email accounts and all is good.

[Nucky Thompson]

45 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

You enter your email and you can see if you're details have been lost in a breach

It says I've been pwned on 1 breached site and found no pastes.

 

What do I do now?

[highlandjambo3]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

It says I've been pwned on 1 breached site and found no pastes.

 

What do I do now?

3 for me 2019, and two in 2013.... what now 

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

It says I've been pwned on 1 breached site and found no pastes.

 

What do I do now?

I put am old address and it says the same as yours.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, highlandjambo3 said:

3 for me 2019, and two in 2013.... what now 

Where does it show the years,?

[highlandjambo3]

1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Where does it show the years,?

If you scroll down to the bottom you will get more info......btw, no expert in this field (haven’t a clue) just searched after the link above was posted...........there are recommendations included but, it looks like signing up to stuff.

[Jeff]

It should show you what site lost your info. I'd update your password where possible

 

Ps - not all breaches include personal info. Sometimes websites just lose mailing lists which may explain vast numbers of phishing attempts / spam

Edited May 19, 2020 by Jeff

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said:

If you scroll down to the bottom you will get more info......btw, no expert in this field (haven’t a clue) just searched after the link above was posted...........there are recommendations included but, it looks like signing up to stuff.

Thanks.

I'm also no expert. 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

17 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I put am old address and it says the same as yours.

I've just changed my password and added extra security. The last time I changed it was 2015

[The Real Maroonblood]

7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I've just changed my password and added extra security. The last time I changed it was 2015

Crikey.

I've spent all afternoon changing my passwords on my main email address.

I've use iPad passwords. 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

I see Spain have announced that they are opening their Air and Sea ports to Italy.

 

[Samuel Camazzola]

Greece looking to accept British holiday makers from June without need to quarantine. Apparently in discussions to see what can be agreed. 

[davemclaren]

Made a section 75 complaint today to my credit card company to try and get my Ryanair money back. We’ll see how that goes. 

[Shanks said no]

53 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

Greece looking to accept British holiday makers from June without need to quarantine. Apparently in discussions to see what can be agreed. 

Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis and members of his cabinet are due on Wednesday to unveil his government’s plan for reopening the country’s tourism market and for restarting the economy, after nearly two months in coronavirus lockdown.

Restarting tourism, which accounts for 18% of Greece’s gross domestic product, is the cornerstone of the economic recovery plan, and Kathimerini understands that this will include the reopening of the country’s borders to travelers from across the European Union, but also Israel, by July 1 at the latest and possibly by as early as June 15.

 

Major hotel chains operating on a seasonal basis have already adopted new protocols and safety measures to protect staff and guests from the spread of Covid-19 in anticipation of the government’s announcement for their reopening, after it gave year-round hotels and resorts the green light to restart operations on June 1.

 

Hoteliers have told Kathimerini that they expect a relatively good summer season given speculation that seasonal hotels may be allowed to reopen before July 1, but also plans for the resumption of flights within Europe’s passport-free Schengen Zone by the end of next month. Their prospects will become clearer once the government announces what specific support measures it is planning for the sector.

[Dazo]

I think at the moment if staying at a hotel in the usual hotspot resorts there is zero chance of having a good holiday while being safe at the same time. Seems incredibly risky to me. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

31 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I think at the moment if staying at a hotel in the usual hotspot resorts there is zero chance of having a good holiday while being safe at the same time. Seems incredibly risky to me. 

 

Been thinking this as well, sure you can go aboad on holiday but what sort of enjoyment is it going to be with all the inevitable restrictions which will have to be put in place. 

 

Just one example, the hotel pool, there will have to be social distancing in place, so at least 50% less sunbeds, hard enough getting a sunbed at times as it was, so good luck with that one, and the pool, social distancing in the pool as well, and would you really want to be going in the pool and swimming in the same water as dozens of other people.  Sure there will probably be plenty of chlorine in the pool to kill the virus, but that's not going to do your skin much good.

 

It's not just how safe it'll be to travel, it's the overall enjoyment of the trip that I think will be severely impacted, certainly this year for sure.

[The Real Maroonblood]

24 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Been thinking this as well, sure you can go aboad on holiday but what sort of enjoyment is it going to be with all the inevitable restrictions which will have to be put in place. 

 

Just one example, the hotel pool, there will have to be social distancing in place, so at least 50% less sunbeds, hard enough getting a sunbed at times as it was, so good luck with that one, and the pool, social distancing in the pool as well, and would you really want to be going in the pool and swimming in the same water as dozens of other people.  Sure there will probably be plenty of chlorine in the pool to kill the virus, but that's not going to do your skin much good.

 

It's not just how safe it'll be to travel, it's the overall enjoyment of the trip that I think will be severely impacted, certainly this year for sure.

Your last sentence sums it up.

 

 

[OBE]

 

Ferry and a self contained villa is the way to go, if you must.

[davemclaren]

1 hour ago, Old Blue Eyes said:

 

Ferry and a self contained villa is the way to go, if you must.

We have a villa booked for Cyprus in July but currently a two week quarantine to get in after flying there. So unless that changes...