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42 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

That must be a PR job & a half then because she's not really handling it that well. Key worker strategy. She passed that straight to local councils which has created confusion. Insisting on differentiation with regard to the Chancellors ballot package. The tourism industry here is asking why in the rest of the UK aid will be made to self caterers but not here in Scotland. Why the insistence of giving Catherine Calderwood, a gynaecologist with zero scientific background, parity with Whitty and Vallance. She's now talking of having a rival advisory group to give bespoke advice to Scotland but then to ignore Sir Hugh Pennington a world leading epidemiologist (of course he's been critical of the SNP). So I'll respectfully disagree with you regarding her handling of this. 

There's a surprise! 

 

Maybe they should just group hug each other like the UK cabinet. 

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12 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

There's a surprise! 

 

Maybe they should just group hug each other like the UK cabinet. 

:laugh:

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2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

That must be a PR job & a half then because she's not really handling it that well. Key worker strategy. She passed that straight to local councils which has created confusion. Insisting on differentiation with regard to the Chancellors ballot package. The tourism industry here is asking why in the rest of the UK aid will be made to self caterers but not here in Scotland. Why the insistence of giving Catherine Calderwood, a gynaecologist with zero scientific background, parity with Whitty and Vallance. She's now talking of having a rival advisory group to give bespoke advice to Scotland but then to ignore Sir Hugh Pennington a world leading epidemiologist (of course he's been critical of the SNP). So I'll respectfully disagree with you regarding her handling of this. 

not to mention our stockpile of thousands of face masks  which went out of date last year and had to be tested this week to see if they were still were effective 

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2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

That must be a PR job & a half then because she's not really handling it that well. Key worker strategy. She passed that straight to local councils which has created confusion. Insisting on differentiation with regard to the Chancellors ballot package. The tourism industry here is asking why in the rest of the UK aid will be made to self caterers but not here in Scotland. Why the insistence of giving Catherine Calderwood, a gynaecologist with zero scientific background, parity with Whitty and Vallance. She's now talking of having a rival advisory group to give bespoke advice to Scotland but then to ignore Sir Hugh Pennington a world leading epidemiologist (of course he's been critical of the SNP). So I'll respectfully disagree with you regarding her handling of this. 

 

Very petty. 

Even the daily express had an article praising her.

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4 hours ago, jambogaza said:

Majority of public haven't been engaged in this so whatever any enquiry throws up, I predict it will have little impact on the outcome of the next Scottish election. Sturgeon in my view will still find her way through this and will continue to be FM. Her popularity seems to be increasing with her handling of this crisis. Besides, there isn't another leader in Scotland worth considering for FM.

My wife and her friends were discussing Nicola Sturgeon on that Zoom app and  said she's going a good job. They're not SNP lovers! 

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Just now, jake said:

Where as this thread has seen political lines drawn I would hope that these cases brought and the feeling of women in general would make us men take note .

Fekin pack in the shit.

Ye ken what the shit is and if ye dinnae by now yer at it.

Salmond knew but he got off .

And no matter your political view he is a sleaze.

 

I'm a son brother father uncle .

And a partner.

 

 

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8 hours ago, jake said:

Where as this thread has seen political lines drawn I would hope that these cases brought and the feeling of women in general would make us men take note .

Fekin pack in the shit.

Ye ken what the shit is and if ye dinnae by now yer at it.

Salmond knew but he got off .

And no matter your political view he is a sleaze.

 

I'm a son brother father uncle .

And a partner.

 

 


Yup

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This follows a Times article where he his videoed identifying a couple of the witnesses and calling Salmond a bully and a sex pest.

 

From a Daily Record article

 

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Alex Salmond’s QC has been condemned over video footage showing him naming female complainants in the former SNP leader’s trial.

Gordon Jackson also referred to one of the women as a “flake” and even discussed his court tactics to discredit a witness: “All I need to do is put a smell on her.”

The former Labour MSP, whose comments were made on a train, could also be heard describing his client as an “objectionable bully”.

Sandy Brindley of Rape Crisis Scotland said she was “extremely shocked” by Jackson’s comments.

She said: “It is hard to see how he can continue in his role as dean [of the Faculty of Advocates]. Anonymity of complainers in cases of this nature must be taken very seriously, otherwise women will not come forward to report. When you consider how traumatic and distressing this case was for the women involved, it is sickening to hear it being discussed in this way.”

Salmond, Scotland’s longest-serving First Minister, was acquitted this month of sexual offences against nine women after being defended by Jackson.

 

After being cleared, Salmond paid tribute to his “brilliant” legal team who he said had been “absolutely exceptional”.

However, the Sunday Times newspaper today revealed footage filmed by a commuter on a train which showed Jackson making inappropriate comments.

Although the identities of the nine complainants are strictly protected, he named two during a conversation with an unnamed individual.

Within earshot of fellow passengers, he reportedly went into further personal details that made one easy to identify.

He also referred disparagingly to one witness: “See, we thought that eventually people might think she’s a flake and not like her.”

He said of Salmond: “I don’t know much about senior politicians, but he was quite an objectionable bully to work with, in a way I don’t think Nicola [Sturgeon] is. I think he was a nasty person to work for . . . a nightmare to work for.”

He then appeared to say Salmond could be seen as “a sex pest, but he’s not charged with that”.

The Faculty of Advocates’ code of conduct says the actions of members must not “impair the trust and the confidence which others place in him and his profession”.

Advocates must also “respect the confidentiality of all information that becomes known to him in the course of his professional activity”, and not bring the faculty into disrepute.

Neither Jackson nor Salmond commented on the original story.

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4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

This follows a Times article where he his videoed identifying a couple of the witnesses and calling Salmond a bully and a sex pest.

 

From a Daily Record article

 

Theres the tactics that got Salmond off.

Even if his actions were not criminal hes still a sleaze that does not respect women.

 

And this article shows why women who report sexual assault often feel as violated by the courtroom experience.

Be very interesting to see what happens with Jackson.

 

 

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Sunday papers confirm FM was going o be a witness for the defence but cancelled due to the crisis.

To quote the defence chappie - something smells and the parliamentary enquiry whenever it is held will be very interesting indeed 

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Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

As I’ve said in an earlier post I don’t particularly like Salmond.

The trial is finished.

He wasn’t found guilty of any crime so the thread should probably be closed.

Fair enough.

 

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1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

Considering he is legally an innocent man you should watch your language. 

 

Till the Scottish Government inquiry. 

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1 hour ago, jake said:

Sue me.

Because although he was found not guilty of criminality I think we all know he was a fat sleaze who was abusive in a sexual way towards women who worked for him

 

Would anyone be happy for their daughter mother sister wife to work for him?

 

Just some friendly advice. 

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31 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

Just some friendly advice. 

Ach sorry .

I can type and post before I think.

Too much.

 

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Just now, jake said:

Not at all red.

Point taken though

 

Good. Thanks for your measured reply to my unsubtle dig, Jake.

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Just now, redjambo said:

 

Good. Thanks for your measured reply to my unsubtle dig, Jake.

Measured is not always my strong point red.

 

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1 minute ago, jake said:

Measured is not always my strong point red.

 

 

:D Mine neither. Otherwise I would have phrased my question to you differently.

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To all the lovely Natcases looking for me, I'm back.

 

(admin delete)

 

Anything happen in my absence?

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2 hours ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

To all the lovely Natcases looking for me, I'm back.

 

(admin delete)

 

Anything happen in my absence?

 

Alex Salmond - Daily Record

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2 hours ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

To all the lovely Natcases looking for me, I'm back.

 

(admin delete)

 

Anything happen in my absence?


Are you the only person connected with this thread who’s been found guilty, then?

 

:jj:

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24 minutes ago, leginten said:


Are you the only person connected with this thread who’s been found guilty, then?

 

:jj:

Yes. I'm the Main Stand One.

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1 hour ago, East Lothian Jambo said:

Wouldn't be so sure Salmond has heard the last of this 

We can all hope.

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Just now, BarneyBattles said:


You’re not ‘back’. You’ve never been away. Just too ashamed to post but you now feel able to do so after Jackson’s comments. 

Disgusting behaviour from the said poster.

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3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Disgusting behaviour from the said poster.

Any thoughts on what Jackson has said about his client? 

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Wonder if there will be any repercussions for the member of the public who presumably filmed the QC without permission? Obviously not condoning the loose lips of Salmonds lawyer but in this personal data, GDPR crazy world we are in now, I'd say filming someone (presumably without consent) and it getting in to the public domain must carry some sort of offence?

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16 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said:

Any thoughts on what Jackson has said about his client? 

Not interested what Jackson said.

The trial is over so just get over it as well.

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18 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said:

Any thoughts on what Jackson has said about his client? 

Disgusting behaviour from the former FM.

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3 hours ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

To all the lovely Natcases looking for me, I'm back.

 

(admin delete)

 

Anything happen in my absence?

Aww, lads, lads! I was only letting my admirers know why I was absent for 7 days!

 

They were only concerned about me, you know.

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4 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said:

Wonder if there will be any repercussions for the member of the public who presumably filmed the QC without permission? Obviously not condoning the loose lips of Salmonds lawyer but in this personal data, GDPR crazy world we are in now, I'd say filming someone (presumably without consent) and it getting in to the public domain must carry some sort of offence?

Not sure if you're being serious 

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Just now, East Lothian Jambo said:

Not sure if you're being serious 

The tragedy for Scotland is that he and his fellow natcases are.

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3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Not interested what Jackson said.

The trial is over so just get over it as well.

He obviously thought highly of his client didn't he....Naming two of his accusers though.....

 

Not so sure Eck has heard the last of this 

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42 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said:

He obviously thought highly of his client didn't he....Naming two of his accusers though.....

 

Not so sure Eck has heard the last of this 

Why has Eck not heard the last of it  ?

He wasn't the one blabbing about the trial.

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25 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Why has Eck not heard the last of it  ?

He wasn't the one blabbing about the trial.

What if there's more to emerge 

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1 hour ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

Aww, lads, lads! I was only letting my admirers know why I was absent for 7 days!

 

They were only concerned about me, you know.

 

You're fooling no one Troller.

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