Jammy T Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Beave1874 said: Heard from a friend of a friend that Berra has had a chat with Dundee FC. Might be a lot of rubbish but just passing on what I’ve heard. Don’t shoot the messenger. Also apologies if already been posted. Robbie texted into the Laurie Dunsmuir podcast and said he had no interest in Berra. Loves the guy but not interested. Mark Donaldson texted to ask him as they were recording. Edited January 11, 2020 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Perth to Paisley said: It was Jane Lewis. Obviously hurting but not sure it was a clever thing to do. Club premise, club uniform etc. He has been poor since he returned but did he return too soon (on request)? Probably did to help out, unfortunately it may have sacrificed his career. Not unusual for new manager to clear out traces of previous, particularly if the old manager is still in the building! Anyhow I hope he can return one day and get the respect and Thanks he deserves for the majority of his service Did you hear Jane Lewis in the interview? She put her name to it. That’s all. Jane Lewis isn’t kicking about Riccarton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Did you hear Jane Lewis in the interview? She put her name to it. That’s all. Jane Lewis isn’t kicking about Riccarton. The interview I saw actually showed Jane Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Robbie texted into the Laurie Dunsmuir podcast and said he had no interest in Berra. Loves the guy but not interested. Mark Donaldson texted to ask him as they were recording. He said Dundee mate not Dundee Utd.. who you are correct are definitely defo not interested Dundee, Falkirk or Dunfermline is my guess Edited January 11, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: He said Dundee mate not Dundee Utd.. who you are correct are definitely defo not interested Dundee, Falkirk or Dunfermline is my guess Partick Thistle would be mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, The Roller said: Partick Thistle would be mine. There was something on the radio this afternoon saying they were planning a big window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Boils down to if Berra actually wants to go to any of those clubs(if they want him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: He said Dundee mate not Dundee Utd.. who you are correct are definitely defo not interested Dundee, Falkirk or Dunfermline is my guess You’re right. Cheers Dundee will want to contribute about 50p to his wages of the Wighton stuff is right. Berra is still a good enough bottom 6 SPL defender for teams playing containment - would be disappointed if any team below Aberdeen wasn’t interested to be honest (other than Hibs) Edited January 11, 2020 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Berra is still a good enough bottom 6 SPL defender for teams playing containment That’s unfortunately just not true. I’d be delighted if Hamilton or St Mirren signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: Boils down to if Berra actually wants to go to any of those clubs(if they want him) Only one way to get over the hurt and anger.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: Boils down to if Berra actually wants to go to any of those clubs(if they want him) And he can agree a settlement with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, davemclaren said: And he can agree a settlement with us. yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Rangers and Hibs have been able to afford extended gardening leave to well paid managers in recent years. If it comes to that, I'm sure we can as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 He'd be a good fit for St Johnstone if they lose Kerr IMO, Wright has a good track record of getting cast offs from other teams in the league and forming them into a half decent side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, davemclaren said: And he can agree a settlement with us. After mouthing off to the media he's lucky Hearts haven't ripped his contract up.😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Roller said: Partick Thistle would be mine. Don’t think he will fancy moving and don’t think he’d fancy that drive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, luckydug said: After mouthing off to the media he's lucky Hearts haven't ripped his contract up.😕 I’m sure we would if we could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Don’t think he will fancy moving and don’t think he’d fancy that drive.. Unless I’m missing something, Maryhill is a shorter commute than Dundee which you suggested as a destination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I could see Berra hanging his boots up before moving to a dundee, partick thistle etc. I reckon he'll have made decent money from football and believe he has invested in property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: I’m sure we would if we could. Would be poor from the club if they ripped up his contract. The guy has been a good servant to the club, of all the wasters during the Budge era we have given a wage to, I don’t begrudge Berra getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Paulp74 said: I could see Berra hanging his boots up before moving to a dundee, partick thistle etc. I reckon he'll have made decent money from football and believe he has invested in property. Maybe he still enjoys playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Maybe he still enjoys playing. Yeah I suppose. Or too much pride to drop down to that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TheOak88 said: Would be poor from the club if they ripped up his contract. The guy has been a good servant to the club, of all the wasters during the Budge era we have given a wage to, I don’t begrudge Berra getting one. Money is money and a contract works both ways. He hasn’t helped his negotiating position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. Not sure you can say it's poor from Stendel unless you know for sure everything that has taken place. We are talking rumours band here say. Ultimately Stendel's only concern is keeping hearts in the league. Everything in the club depends on that. Underperforming players and staff who put us in this position can't really feel aggrieved. Respect Berra but we are not in possession of the facts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko1874 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. Poor form from Stendel? Isn't that why Budge has kept levein on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. I think Berra threw the toys out the pram going by how he has reacted publicly and he’s been demoted to the reserves. Anyway this is Levein’s mess - if he isn’t here to help clear out the shite then he should be gone now. But Budge kept him on for this purpose. Lets not forget the disconnect between players on the pitch and the fans in the stands. Do I care about Berra’s feelings as we sit adrift at the bottom? Do I ****!! Edited January 12, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. He’ll be training with the reserves because he’s not part of the first team plans. Only a theory, but I believe there was serious resistance to DS from the players. If Berra was involved in that he’d be the first out the door if I were Stendel. There’s also the obvious fact he’s not good enough anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko1874 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, kila said: I think Berra threw the toys out the pram going by how he has reacted publicly and he’s been demoted to the reserves. Anyway this is Levein’s mess - if he isn’t here to help clear out the shite then he should be gone now. But Budge kept him on for this purpose. Lets not forget the disconnect between players on the pitch and the fans in the stands. Do I care about Berra’s feelings as we sit adrift at the bottom? Do I ****!! This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. I have no idea if thats true. If it is......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. Poor from Stendel?!? Isn’t that part of the reason that Levein is still there???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. If you read the statement from AB it says that AM and CL are responsible for moving on the players not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. In Berras wee tirade with the press he mentions Stendel by name so I'm not sure how true what your saying is. If he wanted to stick the boot in making some reference to the manager leaving it to Levein would surely have been referenced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Peebo said: Poor from Stendel?!? Isn’t that part of the reason that Levein is still there???? Yes that is one of the reasons why Levein is still here to assist with getting rid off the players he signed that are no part of Stendel's future plans. Never a nice thing to have to do but then that's what happens in football. Let's face it if Levein hadn't signed so many inept players then his current task would be a lot easier. Edited January 12, 2020 by wavydavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Let's afce it if Levein hadn't signed so many inept players then his current task would be a lot easier Nail on head. Here's hoping it doesn't have too much of a negative effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, pettigrewsstylist said: I have no idea if thats true. If it is......... Hope it is. a) Levein, suddenly, from nowhere, actually has a usefulness, b) Imagine the red kip of being made to shovel his own shite out the door (although I would exempt Berra from that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, OTT said: In Berras wee tirade with the press he mentions Stendel by name so I'm not sure how true what your saying is. If he wanted to stick the boot in making some reference to the manager leaving it to Levein would surely have been referenced? It’s definitely true, heard it from someone I trust who is close to a player. Storm in a teacup perhaps but find it strange man management from Stendel as it has had a negative effect on the group given the manner of the delivery of said news to Berra. Levein can assist in moving him on by all by all means but should not be the messenger for the head coach, a certain irony in that for sure! I think subsequently Berra has spoken to Stendel but kind of irrelevant now. One other thing i got told was that Stendel rates Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Duke said: It’s definitely true, heard it from someone I trust who is close to a player. Storm in a teacup perhaps but find it strange man management from Stendel as it has had a negative effect on the group given the manner of the delivery of said news to Berra. Levein can assist in moving him on by all by all means but should not be the messenger for the head coach, a certain irony in that for sure! I think subsequently Berra has spoken to Stendel but kind of irrelevant now. One other thing i got told was that Stendel rates Uche. This. Poor managment and leadership to have others relay that decision to Berra, if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, wavydavy said: If you read the statement from AB it says that AM and CL are responsible for moving on the players not required. That comes after you are removed from your position, they are not the info conduit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, pettigrewsstylist said: That comes after you are removed from your position, they are not the info conduit. I agree. Stendel should be the guy that gives the message and then leave it to others to manage the player out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, robbo1874 said: Nail on head. Here's hoping it doesn't have too much of a negative effect The negative effect will be reduced by keeping those not required out of the way of the 1st team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: That comes after you are removed from your position, they are not the info conduit. My post was in reply to this. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I agree. Stendel should be the guy that gives the message and then leave it to others to manage the player out. Im keeping an open mind as i dont have 1st hand info, but thats poor. I thought first team issues where off limits for these two nowadays! Edited January 12, 2020 by pettigrewsstylist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: The negative effect will be reduced by keeping those not required out of the way of the 1st team. Agreed. He needs the space to instill his own mentality into the squad. My main concern was the lack of funds (relative) due to chancers like Martin etc not allowing him to shape the squad the way he wants to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, pettigrewsstylist said: Im keeping an open mind as i dont have 1st hand info, but thats poor. I thought first team issues where off limits for these two nowadays! If players are training with the reserves then they are not first team. Ann said they would be supporting Daniel in getting players in/out at the agm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, robbo1874 said: Agreed. He needs the space to instill his own mentality into the squad. My main concern was the lack of funds (relative) due to chancers like Martin etc not allowing him to shape the squad the way he wants to . I think DS knows what his budget is and doesnt want to waste it so he will be more careful than many posters would be with regards to signings. We cant get this wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Duke said: No problem with Berra being told he’s free to go but can’t understand forcing him to train with the reserves, if he doesn’t move on in the window and we get a few injuries we might end up needing him as cover. He’s a first team player and should be treated as one regardless of any politics. Heard last night that on the Sunday the news was broken to Berra it was actually left to Levein to tell him. Not sure if that has already been discussed on the thread but that’s poor from Stendel. One of Leveins jobs is to get rid of the players he signed that DS wants to ship out. I’d rather he was a million miles away from Tynie but if he’s hanging around like a bad smell then he can help clear up the mess he’s responsible for In saying that, DS should have told CB that he was free to go. Edited January 12, 2020 by Dagger Is Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Stendal hasn't got time to muck about.. Whichever way hes doing it will be judged by what we get on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: I think DS knows what his budget is and doesnt want to waste it so he will be more careful than many posters would be with regards to signings. We cant get this wrong. No we can't this time. Pressure is on due to previous transfer windows being pretty brutal. I'm not in panic mode or anything like that. I do have slight concern in giving players time to adjust but there's not much he can do about it. Let's hope whoever is brought in manages to get up to speed with our game quickly enough. Rebuilding while we're adrift at the bottom isn't ideal for any manager but we didn't have the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: This. Poor managment and leadership to have others relay that decision to Berra, if true. I think Stendel would have told him tbf. He doesn't seem to mind offending people, which could explain Joey Barton punching him in the puss....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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