Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm not suggesting they do. I'm suggesting you book a slot to visit. Look, were being told about sacrifices and thousands dying, if we're going to try and eliminate all that, 'i can't book an online slot' doesn't really cut it imo. Anyone capable of getting themselves to a supermarket, choosing and paying for food and getting home again has the capacity to book a time online. Edit: not having a go at you btw, just going on how much everyone is having to go out of their comfort zone and sacrifice etc, I don't think it's a big ask really I'm sure M&S Straiton were doing that over Xmas/New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I agree Brian. Dodging the mask refuseniks and avoiding busy aisles can also reduce the risk but, you're right, must be minimal chance of catching it in a supermarket. As you say, you're only in contact with others momentarily. I still think they should be forced to reintroduce the one-way systems. Yes as you have said before Enzo you really have to be in the company of someone for 15 minutes or so to get enough viral load to catch it. Its near impossible from just walking passed people etc. However there are issues of people touching stuff in supermarkets . Supermarkets are low risk. Indoor smaller places maybe are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yes as you have said before Enzo you really have to be in the company of someone for 15 minutes or so to get enough viral load to catch it. Its near impossible from just walking passed people etc. However there are issues of people touching stuff in supermarkets . Supermarkets are low risk. Indoor smaller places maybe are. You see this is something I've never quite understood about this. We are getting told that Covid is very easy to catch and is highly transmissable, but they also say that you have to be in close contact with someone for around about 15 minutes for you to get enough viral load to catch it. It can't be that contagious if it takes 15 minutes of exposure for you to catch it, this 15 minutes thing just doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) My wife left Aldi at Cameron Toll today. 3 wee maskless teenage dicks going around breathing on stuff. It's not good enough from Aldi for not having someone on the door. Yes it's only 3 wee dicks, and even if wearing masks they could have entered, took off and done same. If masks make such a difference, and we are meant to ask ourselves about 5 times 'do I really need to leave the house' then they should be compulsory now. If you can't function with a mask (and I'd say well into 90% who say they can't, can for what they are doing) then you need central govt support to live your life basics such as shop deliveries. Essential retail shops are the only places meant to be open anyway. Or are provided with breathable masks by the state. Edited January 9, 2021 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said: You see this is something I've never quite understood about this. We are getting told that Covid is very easy to catch and is highly transmissable, but they also say that you have to be in close contact with someone for around about 15 minutes for you to get enough viral load to catch it. It can't be that contagious if it takes 15 minutes of exposure for you to catch it, this 15 minutes thing just doesn't make sense to me. Yep...but most scientists believe the 15 minutes threshold. I think it may mean if your maybe indoors and near them even just chatting. I assume if you were unlucky being near someone in a shop and they coughed directly on to you there may be a significantly increased chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: Supermarket shopping doesn’t strike me as a very risky thing in regards to Covid. People move around quickly tend not to come too close, certainly not for long and they are big spaces. Working there a different situation entirely. I don't think they are either but there's not many places left and somewhere is causing the spread. If they are contributing to it, cutting down the free for all nature of them would surely help. 23 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Not everyone is online in particular old people. Plenty disabled cant go out either and need others to help them. Like i said at the begging all resources should have been pumped into people either getting paid or volunteering to do shopping for those who cant. Your suggestion could be feasible with a certain amount in allowed in the one time? I assume you meant that? Yes I know your not getting at me. No problems. Agree about helping those who can't go, all for that and would happily volunteer to help those people with shopping, but this suggestion wouldn't effect them as they're already not going. Also, yes, absolutely time limited, 20 minute slots with a 10 minute sanitisation in between, then go again with the next batch. For those not online, then I'm afraid to say, my response would be 'get online or ask someone too book a slot for you'. We've not been tough enough throughout this, lots of people are doing things they don't feel comfortable doing or don't want to do, so let's stop letting people's excuses slow us down from getting out of it. I know that sounds very harsh and I think you also know my personal preference would not be harsh restrictions, but whilst they are here, I say do them properly. 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I'm sure M&S Straiton were doing that over Xmas/New Year. Despite their old fart persona, M&S can be fairly forward thinking as a business. Good on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: You see this is something I've never quite understood about this. We are getting told that Covid is very easy to catch and is highly transmissable, but they also say that you have to be in close contact with someone for around about 15 minutes for you to get enough viral load to catch it. It can't be that contagious if it takes 15 minutes of exposure for you to catch it, this 15 minutes thing just doesn't make sense to me. Yes, I've wondered about that too. Leitch confirmed that the existing measures were effective against the new strain. I suspect, as many do, that this was a pre-Christmas stunt to influence compliance over the holiday season. One Sky reporter mentioned today that "we can expect to see more footage from ICU wards" in the coming weeks as scientists are worried about compliance. So, have the news channels deferred editorial control to the omnipresent chinless scientific wonders now? Yet another sinister twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Yep...but most scientists believe the 15 minutes threshold. I think it may mean if your maybe indoors and near them even just chatting. I assume if you were unlucky being near someone in a shop and they coughed directly on to you there may be a significantly increased chance. And where do most people spend 15 minutes or more indoors talking to someone, in their own home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: BBC doing its usual scare propaganda " human interest story" about corona . A " fit" 36 years old guy died. There were videos of him rock climbing etc but he looked very overweight. Nothing mentioned about that. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-wiltshire-55584649 Is this the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: And where do most people spend 15 minutes or more indoors talking to someone, in their own home. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Yes, I've wondered about that too. Leitch confirmed that the existing measures were effective against the new strain. I suspect, as many do, that this was a pre-Christmas stunt to influence compliance over the holiday season. One Sky reporter mentioned today that "we can expect to see more footage from ICU wards" in the coming weeks as scientists are worried about compliance. So, have the news channels deferred editorial control to the omnipresent chinless scientific wonders now? Yet another sinister twist. Well it stands to reason that if you have more infections then you'll have more people being hospitalised and as a consequence of that more people are bound to be in ICU as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: And long may she rein over us! Huge surprise here. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Huge surprise here. 🤡 That'll be a horses rein.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: My wife left Aldi at Cameron Toll today. 3 wee maskless teenage dicks going around breathing on stuff. It's not good enough from Aldi for not having someone on the door. Yes it's only 3 wee dicks, and even if wearing masks they could have entered, took off and done same. If masks make such a difference, and we are meant to ask ourselves about 5 times 'do I really need to leave the house' then they should be compulsory now. If you can't function with a mask (and I'd say well into 90% who say they can't, can for what they are doing) then you need central govt support to live your life basics such as shop deliveries. Essential retail shops are the only places meant to be open anyway. Or are provided with breathable masks by the state. It’s not good enough you’re right. I was in Asda during the week and I genuinely think I’ll be moving to online shopping given what I saw. No bloody excuse for it and whilst the Government has made a complete Gareth of it, some folks are being complete and utter dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, FWJ said: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-wiltshire-55584649 Is this the story? I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack I don’t know if that’s more or less likely at 36 than dying of Covid but to dismiss the death of a young man as “usual scare propaganda” is really quite something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack Tight chest is often a bit of a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That'll be a horses rein.😄 That'll be a horse's rein. The apostrophe is your friend 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, FWJ said: I don’t know if that’s more or less likely at 36 than dying of Covid but to dismiss the death of a young man as “usual scare propaganda” is really quite something. I think he was pointing out the fact that it was politicised in order to scaremonger. 12 under 30s die every week with undetected heart conditions. How many make the BBC News? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That'll be a horses rein.😄 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I think he was pointing out the fact that it was politicised in order to scaremonger. 12 under 30s die every week with undetected heart conditions. How many make the BBC News? I genuinely hope you live alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I think he was pointing out the fact that it was politicised in order to scaremonger. 12 under 30s die every week with undetected heart conditions. How many make the BBC News? Politicised? One person’s scaremonger is another’s warning. In either circumstance I think the language was ill-considered and insensitive at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I genuinely hope you live alone. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: 😁 Superseded🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: It’s not good enough you’re right. I was in Asda during the week and I genuinely think I’ll be moving to online shopping given what I saw. No bloody excuse for it and whilst the Government has made a complete Gareth of it, some folks are being complete and utter dicks. I changed to online shopping in November, in part....no, mainly because I became less confident from what I was seeing through the behaviour of other people, I have no worries going to my local co-op most days, but a larger store in a much larger town, nah people were imo becoming complacent and careless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: Maybe a wee bit of scaremongering is what we need just now. We need more scaremongering IMO The Governor has hacked your account Brian😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I changed to online shopping in November, in part....no, mainly because I became less confident from what I was seeing through the behaviour of other people, I have no worries going to my local co-op most days, but a larger store in a much larger town, nah people were imo becoming complacent and careless. My sister in law started online shopping a few months ago and it's the best thing she's done for a while. She doesn't have a car and isn't in the best of health. She was shopping every day which is madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 We need more account hacking imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hughesie27 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack Decent chance he wouldn't have had a heart attack had he not had a debilitating respiratory virus? Or nah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: So it’s only thinking if you look at information and then disagree with the government ? What if you think they are right? Get real man, you're a fool if you think this isn't the most completely incompetent shitshow in living memory. These clowns could f@#k up a cup of coffee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: That'll be a horse's rein. The apostrophe is your friend 👍 As is a full stop ffs 🙈. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: My sister in law started online shopping a few months ago and it's the best thing she's done for a while. She doesn't have a car and isn't in the best of health. She was shopping every day which is madness. Mrs JJ often used to stop in Gala on her way home, she'd pop in for two or three things and £42 later😂.....anyway I had been thinking about online shopping for quite sometime and giving my health etc it made sense as we can get Asda & Tesco from Galashiels, Morrison's from Hawick & Sainsbury's from Stration all delivered here. I've had 2 Sainsbury's & 1 Asda order so far and can't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mrs JJ often used to stop in Gala on her way home, she'd pop in for two or three things and £42 later😂.....anyway I had been thinking about online shopping for quite sometime and giving my health etc it made sense as we can get Asda & Tesco from Galashiels, Morrison's from Hawick & Sainsbury's from Stration all delivered here. I've had 2 Sainsbury's & 1 Asda order so far and can't complain. Popping in for one or two things can be expensive because invariably it ends up more. Might try the online shopping at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: As is a full stop ffs 🙈. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: Popping in for one or two things can be expensive because invariably it ends up more. Might try the online shopping at some point. Especially when it was Mrs JJ doing it. Saving a fortune now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack If he tested positive for covid then he died of covid. That’s the world we live in now 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Especially when it was Mrs JJ doing it. Saving a fortune now. It must be female thing. The wife hates it when I go shopping with her. I meant to ask you about savings.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: As is a full stop ffs 🙈. 😂. Should the full stop not come before the emoji, Pasquale?? Genuine question😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: What would you do Frank? Good question, Brian. Impossible to say, even given hindsight. I would, however, at the very least take responsibility for the mistakes that are inevitably made in these situations. That is sorely lacking both here and south of the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack My thinking 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I think he was pointing out the fact that it was politicised in order to scaremonger. 12 under 30s die every week with undetected heart conditions. How many make the BBC News? Yes 21 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: If he tested positive for covid then he died of covid. That’s the world we live in now 😔 So true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Decent chance he wouldn't have had a heart attack had he not had a debilitating respiratory virus? Or nah? And there is every chance he might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: I know he tested positive for covid, but it says he went to bed with a tight chest and died in his sleep. It could have been a heart attack My thinking 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: I think he was pointing out the fact that it was politicised in order to scaremonger. 12 under 30s die every week with undetected heart conditions. How many make the BBC News? Yes 21 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: If he tested positive for covid then he died of covid. That’s the world we live in now 😔 So true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: We have had nearly 90,000 excess deaths in the uk, over 80,000 have died within 28 days of a +ve test. If it’s not Covid what are all these extra people dying from? (Insert incentive bus driver joke here) So that’s how “the science” works now is it? We just assume things. You ask a good question, I’d like an empirical peer reviewed answer not just supposition. Is that really too much to ask?? Edited January 9, 2021 by Adam_the_legend Autocorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: What would you do Frank? Was Frank ever in the running for FM or PM though. I think it’s only right to expect the decision making of our political leaders to be better than Frank from kickback. The countries’ figures are absolutely appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: It must be female thing. The wife hates it when I go shopping with her. I meant to ask you about savings.👍 Mine's just hates food shopping, didn't seem to stop her spending a fortune though! It was me who did the food shopping but with Covid and me having to be careful because of my health, I was just never in Gala very often and then when I seen people getting careless I made the decision that it just wasn't worth the risk to my health anymore. Saving money because Mrs JJ isn't stopping for a couple of things anymore and not needed to do a shop this month as there is plenty of food in both freezers and cupboards. Will maybe try Tesco & Morrisons at the end of the month, just to try something different. It's the way to go, one tip I've found is to book the saver slot (Sainsbury's) where if you are in all day you get a slot over 4 hours which only costs £1 then on the morning of the delivery you then get an hour slot, so if you choose between 2 - 6 pm delivery, in the morning you'll get told that delivery will be between 3 - 4 pm and you've saved yourself £2 or £3 by doing that way, a couple of quid is better in your pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Mine's just hates food shopping, didn't seem to stop her spending a fortune though! It was me who did the food shopping but with Covid and me having to be careful because of my health, I was just never in Gala very often and then when I seen people getting careless I made the decision that it just wasn't worth the risk to my health anymore. Saving money because Mrs JJ isn't stopping for a couple of things anymore and not needed to do a shop this month as there is plenty of food in both freezers and cupboards. Will maybe try Tesco & Morrisons at the end of the month, just to try something different. It's the way to go, one tip I've found is to book the saver slot (Sainsbury's) where if you are in all day you get a slot over 4 hours which only costs £1 then on the morning of the delivery you then get an hour slot, so if you choose between 2 - 6 pm delivery, in the morning you'll get told that delivery will be between 3 - 4 pm and you've saved yourself £2 or £3 by doing that way, a couple of quid is better in your pocket. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: 😂. Should the full stop not come before the emoji, Pasquale?? Genuine question😎 It is a good question, as the emoji is part of the sentence I would say after it 😆. I also wouldn’t start a sentence with one either 👍🏽. Edited January 9, 2021 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Pasquale for King said: It is a good question, as the emoji is user of the sentence I would say after it 😆. I also wouldn’t start a sentence with one either 👍🏽. 😂 Never noticed that. I didn't put it there😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: And there is every chance he might have. Would you argue against Covid-19 being on his death certificate as a contributing factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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