Taffin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Was working not from home for the first time today since March. It was quite surreal but good to be back out and about. Pub lunch on Sunday too. Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just had a confirmation e-mail that our holiday park bar and restaurant and night time entertainment venue(with light entertainment) are opening on Saturday. You need to book in advance with table service for the restaurant and an app for ordering drinks in the entertainment venue. I was really looking forward to this but I'm starting to feel a wee bit nervous. The park is full of Geordies. Sunderland and Gateshead are on the list of 36 hotspots for covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Just had a confirmation e-mail that our holiday park bar and restaurant and night time entertainment venue(with light entertainment) are opening on Saturday. You need to book in advance with table service for the restaurant and an app for ordering drinks in the entertainment venue. I was really looking forward to this but I'm starting to feel a wee bit nervous. The park is full of Geordies. Sunderland and Gateshead are on the list of 36 hotspots for covid Just be sensible and follow the rules they'll have put in place. Enjoy yourself and relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Just had a confirmation e-mail that our holiday park bar and restaurant and night time entertainment venue(with light entertainment) are opening on Saturday. You need to book in advance with table service for the restaurant and an app for ordering drinks in the entertainment venue. I was really looking forward to this but I'm starting to feel a wee bit nervous. The park is full of Geordies. Sunderland and Gateshead are on the list of 36 hotspots for covid It’ll be great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taffin said: Just be sensible and follow the rules they'll have put in place. Enjoy yourself and relax. It's not me I'm worried about being sensible. Have you ever been in a room full of pissed up Geordies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Nucky Thompson said: It's not me I'm worried about being sensible. Have you ever been in a room full of pissed up Geordies 😂 True, but the restrictions they'll have put in place should keep you safe as long as you're observing them yourself and let the venue deal with anyone who's not adhering to them. Don't let the worry ruin your trip. I was a bit nervous about going to things again (albeit not piss ups) but once I was there I've not felt at risk once really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, JamesM48 said: Its clearly herd immunity by the back door in England. Opening pubs on a Saturday too ! yep..smells fishy to me. No pausing or halting anything anyway.36 boroughs at risk all throughout different parts of the country being put into lockdown but nah lets just get the weekend out the way first and let them have a few pints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Breaking news on Sky News. With immediate effect California is closing down all indoor activities including restaurants, bars, movie theatres etc etc, in 19 counties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Cade said: 176 dead today Pubs in England opening this weekend What could possibly go wrong? Yep I'm working it at the weekend in the mean steets of Cornwall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 02/06/2020 at 23:35, John Gentleman said: As for 'second waves', there's plenty of precedents. Some viruses mutate quickly and often (flu, HIV) whilst others (measles, poliovirus) stay rock-steady, decade in, decade out. promised us anything else. The virus has already mutated which is of course hugely disappointing. The mutation didn't make it any more deadly but it did make it more infectious. The new strain quickly became the most common version of the virus. But obviously the worst news is simply that it can and will mutate. They say the current vaccines being developed will still be effective against the new strain. And obviously we must hope any further mutations don't change that. Or we're back to square one in that respect. This coronavirus mutation has taken over the world. Scientists are trying to understand why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I am surprised at the sudden care of life over the economy from governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Morgan said: I think it’s been sorted out. The poster simply got Tom Cruise confused with Tom Hanks. Ah right fair enough then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 9 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: He’s getting mixed up with Forrest Gump. No, we're getting him mixed up with Forrest Gump. Stupid is as stupid does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-face-coverings-experiment-18525667 wear face masks folks dont be the selfish twit who doesn’t (unless you have medical reasons - really is no excuse!) Edited July 2, 2020 by Natural Orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Smithee said: ? 15 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: That's what I was thinking. Maybe mixing up his Toms Arf, thats exactly what happened, not much of a film buff, The laughing at Cruise and hammy still stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: Just had a confirmation e-mail that our holiday park bar and restaurant and night time entertainment venue(with light entertainment) are opening on Saturday. You need to book in advance with table service for the restaurant and an app for ordering drinks in the entertainment venue. I was really looking forward to this but I'm starting to feel a wee bit nervous. The park is full of Geordies. Sunderland and Gateshead are on the list of 36 hotspots for covid Sunderland and Gateshead have been shit all through this (i live in Newcastle) Newcastle has been fine, people have been mostly following guidelines and there are loads of places still not opening on Saturday. Sure you will be fine and others will behave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-face-coverings-experiment-18525667 wear face masks folks dont be the selfish twit who doesn’t (unless you have medical reasons - really is no excuse!) @AlimOzturk get masked boi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: @AlimOzturk get masked boi. I have medical reason not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-face-coverings-experiment-18525667 wear face masks folks dont be the selfish twit who doesn’t (unless you have medical reasons - really is no excuse!) Even Trump say's he's worn a mask and he liked it. https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-lone-ranger-lookalike-donald-trump-says-face-masks-are-good-12019341 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: I have medical reason not to. Why do you spend a lot of time posting about masks then? You seem to be totally against them. If you have a valid reason to not wear one then that's clearly all good. I get the feeling g you are against others having to wear them too though. Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-face-coverings-experiment-18525667 wear face masks folks dont be the selfish twit who doesn’t (unless you have medical reasons - really is no excuse!) The last line was interesting. "Dr Davies did say that because he only tested his theory on himself, the experiments can't be used as a model for how coronavirus actually spreads." I'll just make sure not to sing in someone's face for a minute or cough directly into their face for 15 seconds. Mon the selfish twits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Why do you spend a lot of time posting about masks then? You seem to be totally against them. If you have a valid reason to not wear one then that's clearly all good. I get the feeling g you are against others having to wear them too though. Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick. Not against others wearing them if they want to wear them. Against the forced wearing of them by authorities and people making other people feel like they are selfish arseholes if they choose not to. Also feel that wearing a homemade mask from a sock Is utterly pointless and these studies saying otherwise are so biased and misleading. Freedom of choice can't be sacrificed for anything it is one of the most aspects of society imo. I also think masks are garishly looking things which installs fear into society. Fear is something we need to get over if we are to move society on from this. Folk have the choice to do what they want and I would argue any law that states folk must wear them would easily be challenged and over turned in court. And the above study, so long as you don't sing or talk you are fine. And he has only tested the model on himself therefore therefore the study is completely null and void and proves nothing. Absolutely pathetic that it has been given media time. Edited July 2, 2020 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Not against others wearing them if they want to wear them. Against the forced wearing of them by authorities and people making other people feel like they are selfish arseholes if they choose not to. Also feel that wearing a homemade mask from a sock Is utterly pointless and these studies saying otherwise are so biased and misleading. Freedom of choice can't be sacrificed for anything it is one of the most aspects of society imo. I also think masks are garishly looking things which installs fear into society. Fear is something we need to get over if we are to move society on from this. Folk have the choice to do what they want and I would argue any law that states folk must wear them would easily be challenged and over turned in court. What about private companies deciding that they won't cater to you if you aren't masked? Isn't that whats primarily happening just now as opposed to state enforced compulsory wearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I'm going to continue to follow the advice that the BBC shared from a Dr at London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine and only wear a mask when social distancing isn't possible...which for me, is only in extremely rare instances at work. The rest of the time, no mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: What about private companies deciding that they won't cater to you if you aren't masked? Isn't that whats primarily happening just now as opposed to state enforced compulsory wearing. They can do what they want I won't visit their establishment. Just like I won't get on a bus anymore. Life's to short to be forced to wear something I don't want to. I couldn't care if folk think wearing is a mask isn't that big a deal...the very fact any organisation wants to to force you to wear something over your face is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Not against others wearing them if they want to wear them. Against the forced wearing of them by authorities and people making other people feel like they are selfish arseholes if they choose not to. Also feel that wearing a homemade mask from a sock Is utterly pointless and these studies saying otherwise are so biased and misleading. Freedom of choice can't be sacrificed for anything it is one of the most aspects of society imo. I also think masks are garishly looking things which installs fear into society. Fear is something we need to get over if we are to move society on from this. Folk have the choice to do what they want and I would argue any law that states folk must wear them would easily be challenged and over turned in court. And the above study, so long as you don't sing or talk you are fine. And he has only tested the model on himself therefore therefore the study is completely null and void and proves nothing. Absolutely pathetic that it has been given media time. Shouldn’t be a choice though - it’s a matter of life and death people should be wearing masks unless they have a medical reason not to - really is no excuse mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, Natural Orders said: Shouldn’t be a choice though - it’s a matter of life and death people should be wearing masks unless they have a medical reason not to - really is no excuse mate Matter of life and death Oooo I am so frightened of that unmasked person over the road there coughing and sneezing what must I do. Mustn't leave the house, visit a pub or enjoy my life anymore eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: They can do what they want I won't visit their establishment. Just like I won't get on a bus anymore. Life's to short to be forced to wear something I don't want to. I couldn't care if folk think wearing is a mask isn't that big a deal...the very fact any organisation wants to to force you to wear something over your face is wrong. It's not wrong when it's a really simple and easy measure to help prevent the spread of a highly infectious disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, AlimOzturk said: Matter of life and death Oooo I am so frightened of that unmasked person over the road there coughing and sneezing what must I do. Mustn't leave the house, visit a pub or enjoy my life anymore eh. Literally tens of thousands of people have died and you think it's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: They can do what they want I won't visit their establishment. Just like I won't get on a bus anymore. Life's to short to be forced to wear something I don't want to. I couldn't care if folk think wearing is a mask isn't that big a deal...the very fact any organisation wants to to force you to wear something over your face is wrong. Not if they want to protect their staff. And they aren't forcing anything or challenging your freedom of choice. Like you say you will just not go there which makes sense. I just can't go that extra step with you and actually say that what they are doing is wrong. I heard that Sainsburys have just started saying that you need to wear a mask to use their stores. Presumably that means their staff must be too. I winder kf they have staff who feel the same as you. I certainly wouldn't want to wear one for a full shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Literally tens of thousands of people have died and you think it's funny. I don't find folk dying funny at all. I find the statement funny that wearing a mask is life or death funny because that is such a ridiculous thing to say. Wearing a mask in China didn't stop this global pandemic happening so I doubt the wearing of a mask would have prevented anyone from dying especially considering all the other ridiculous decisions that have been along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Not if they want to protect their staff. And they aren't forcing anything or challenging your freedom of choice. Like you say you will just not go there which makes sense. I just can't go that extra step with you and actually say that what they are doing is wrong. I heard that Sainsburys have just started saying that you need to wear a mask to use their stores. Presumably that means their staff must be too. I winder kf they have staff who feel the same as you. I certainly wouldn't want to wear one for a full shift. That just highlights how stupid it all is though. Sainsbury's were fine to have us in their stores without a mask at the peak of the pandemic, not only that, they were late to the party in regards to making their stores safe...yet now they want masks to be worn. I was in a Sainsbury's at least a week after id been in a Tesco that had queues outside to limit numbere, hand wash and wipes for trolleys and baskets and a one way system inside; the Sainsbury's had nothing, business as usual, so forgive me for not believing they have the well-being of their staff and customers at the front and centre of their actions. Edited July 2, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: I don't find folk dying funny at all. I find the statement funny that wearing a mask is life or death funny because that is such a ridiculous thing to say. Wearing a mask in China didn't stop this global pandemic happening so I doubt the wearing of a mask would have prevented anyone from dying especially considering all the other ridiculous decisions that have been along the way. Preventing the spread of the disease is a case of life and death. Masks can help stop spread the disease. China has been considerably less affected than Britain and they all wear masks while hardly anyone here bothers. Edited July 2, 2020 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Not if they want to protect their staff. And they aren't forcing anything or challenging your freedom of choice. Like you say you will just not go there which makes sense. I just can't go that extra step with you and actually say that what they are doing is wrong. I heard that Sainsburys have just started saying that you need to wear a mask to use their stores. Presumably that means their staff must be too. I winder kf they have staff who feel the same as you. I certainly wouldn't want to wear one for a full shift. They can call it protecting their staff but I would ask why they didn't do this at the height of the pandemic when their staff where on the front line. What is the point of implementing this when the virus, especially here in Scotland is disappearing? No doubt they will be selling facemasks in store. Profit! If they make facemasks mandatory then they should be made to provide folk with them free of charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Preventing the spread of the disease is a case of life and death. Masks can help stop spread the disease. China has been considerably less affected than Britain and they all wear masks while hardly anyone here bothers. Show me the proof. And don't quote articles like the above I want actual scientific evidence that wearing masks has contributed in reducing the number of deaths in this pandemic. Edited July 2, 2020 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, AlimOzturk said: Show me the proof. Proof that China has been less affected than we have? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Proof that masks help: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent Or just go into any hospital and check if any nurses and doctors are wearing masks. They are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Proof that China has been less affected than we have? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ That proves nothing. That only proves that China has had less deaths. Show me the proof that facemasks played a crucial role in the numbers being less. And fwiw I believe **** all that comes.kut of that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The best way to avoid spreading the virus is to not get too close to people. I intend to remain at least 1m, ideally 2m, from people to keep myself and them safe. If, in my daily life, someone choses to encroach on that space or is also in a place where distancing is possoble then that is up to them and the risks that come with it. At work, where we are in a confined space and none of us have a choice in that, I'll wear a mask of course, if for no other reason than to make people feel safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: That proves nothing. That only proves that China has had less deaths. Show me the proof that facemasks played a crucial role in the numbers being less. And fwiw I believe **** all that comes.kut of that country. The advice from experts is that they help and that you should wear one. Of course you know better. Just like you knew better when you said that it's next to impossible to catch now (proven wrong as lots of places are seeing spikes in cases) and that going back into lockdown would never happen (proven wrong as this has now happened in several places). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Proof that China has been less affected than we have? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ FWIW I agree with the point you’re trying to make but China’s reported statistics on this are utter bollocks. They’ve not reported the full scale of this in the slightest.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, King prawn said: FWIW I agree with the point you’re trying to make but China’s reported statistics on this are utter bollocks. They’ve not reported the full scale of this in the slightest.. Perhaps not, but all of the other Asian countries are reporting less deaths than the UK and use of facemasks in these areas is common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Taffin said: That just highlights how stupid it all is though. Sainsbury's were fine to have us in their stores without a mask at the peak of the pandemic, not only that, they were late to the party in regards to making their stores safe...yet now they want masks to be worn. I was in a Sainsbury's at least a week after id been in a Tesco that had queues outside to limit numbere, hand wash and wipes for trolleys and baskets and a one way system inside; the Sainsbury's had nothing, business as usual, so forgive me for not believing they have the well-being of their staff and customers at the front and centre of their actions. So you think they are making it harder to get customers in their store now is a financial decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Matter of life and death Oooo I am so frightened of that unmasked person over the road there coughing and sneezing what must I do. Mustn't leave the house, visit a pub or enjoy my life anymore eh. Don’t be so ignorant!! too many people have died from this - you should be ashamed! Wear face mask on public transport or in crowded areas- no excuse not to mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Shouldn’t be a choice though - it’s a matter of life and death people should be wearing masks unless they have a medical reason not to - really is no excuse mate You still haven't answered my question about folks living in the country.......should we be wearing masks all the time, when either there is nobody else around or our exposure to other people is limited & social distancing is not any issue due to said reduced number of people around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Literally tens of thousands of people have died and you think it's funny. He is acting like a wee ignorant twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Couple of posts were asking why did Sainsburys etc not implement the mask stuff earlier. The same reason the Gov are only now just trying to encourage strixter mask wearing protocols. The data on their effectiveness is more valid now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: Don’t be so ignorant!! too many people have died from this - you should be ashamed! Wear face mask on public transport or in crowded areas- no excuse not to mate! Claustrophobia, perfect excuse. I would have a full blown panick attack if I wore a mask over my face. . And I have already stated, a million times it feels like, that I won't be going on public transport again until as long as it is a mandatory requirement. Tell me how I am selfish in that regards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: He is acting like a wee ignorant twit Who do you think you are calling a twit? I am not someone who hides behind a username throwing insults around. Plenty of folk on this forum know me personally and i tell you something I won't have an arsehole like you thinking they can sit there insulting me because I have a difference of opinion. Edited July 2, 2020 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Natural Orders said: He is acting like a wee ignorant twit I preferred it when you only asked questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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